The Grail Wardens: a Liber Astartes Group Project

[Doctor Perils]

That could work. Though I doubt that the existing Chaos force would trust anyone enough to share the secret, let alone a collection of evil mad scientists. Perhaps they were forced to turn to them for help, then. But yes, they'd definitely be double-crossing them if they were in on it. Perhaps they already did, and so are at odds with the main Chaos faction.

 

Oh, and Thorn? Have you updated the first post with all the new stuff? Just to keep it all in a handy reference place. Some of the names and details listed there have changed, is all.

I haven't updated it yet, I'll have to do it when I get home.

 

If I recall correctly, someone said that they were getting a map ready right ? Does anybody know how to use the google maps software with personnal images ? A bit like the maps extension to wikia ?

[Kelborn]

You can create you own map via wiki and google?

Need to check this! :D

[Doctor Perils]

You can create you own map via wiki and google?

Need to check this!

http://warhammer40kfanon.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Maps

 

It can work pretty well as long as you have a large enough image.

Unfortunately I'm having some trouble setting up my own private wiki and I can't find any way of creating a stand alone map like this.

[Kelborn]

Oh, you were talking about editing an existing one. Did that before. Quite difficult. Had to zoom in and edit quite a lot until it did suit the picture.

Thought you were talking about a tool to create own maps or something similar. ;)

[Doctor Perils]

Oh, you were talking about editing an existing one. Did that before. Quite difficult. Had to zoom in and edit quite a lot until it did suit the picture.

Thought you were talking about a tool to create own maps or something similar.

 

Err, yeah, it is pretty much a tool to create your own maps, or at least the POI on it. You still have to upload the image, but it allows you to have dynamic maps points, which can be rather awesome I think. I don't see what you mean about having to zoom in and edit to suit the picture ?

[Kelborn]

I've worked with paint and my planetd were little, colored dots. Those were too big so I zoomed i until they were so small enough to fit with the rest of the picture.

 

Via my phone I did only saw some maps when I followed your link. Is that correct? Or is something missing that I need to check via computer?

[Sir Perfluous]

Actually, it might not be a bad idea to create a page on the Fanon wiki to contain all of this. It would make managing the information a bit easier, as we could use it as a handy reference. Linking to it could also quickly inform newer readers, such as EesiOh when he returned.

[Kelborn]

Agreed.

 

Does one need to register on this site? Does someone of us already have an account?

[Sir Perfluous]

You do need to register, but I already have one if it'd make things easier.

[Minigiant]

Great idea

[Doctor Perils]

Ah, I hadn't noticed that the example link I'd given you was a bit... rubbish ^^

 

Here's one for a Map I'd started doing on a french wikia : http://fr.w40kfanfluff.wikia.com/wiki/Sp%C3%A9cial:Maps/9793

It might well be best to try it on PC.

I don't think the program like this is absolutely brilliant, but it does offer some very good possibilities :)

[Kelborn]

And this map was done by you and all those planets are DIY project of yours as well? Respect!

 

And thank you for the link. So I need to register there (or the English wiki) to modify this map and save it as my own, correct? Sounds legit.

 

Will try this in the evening for my own project concerning the Dominion of Storms (a region I've found on a FW map for which actually no fluff exists). :)

[Doctor Perils]

And this map was done by you and all those planets are DIY project of yours as well? Respect!

 

I can't remember if I did that version of the starscape or not, and I haven't really written anything much for like 90% of the planets/forces represented, but I have got ideas for all of them, as well as a general history of the sector, so thanks :) I still try and follow your own Storm Riders / House Toho project when I can :P

 

 

 

And thank you for the link. So I need to register there (or the English wiki) to modify this map and save it as my own, correct? Sounds legit.

I believe that's the general gist, but "saving it as your own" might not really work on a wiki.

 

 

Anyway, if you're all interested in using the 40k fanon wikia to work on this project, I'm prepared to follow :) However, I think the main part of the discussion should happen here on the Bolter & Chainsword for two main reasons:

• As wikia is still a wiki, anyone really can change it as they see fit; even though there are safeguards in place to protect the work, it can still be a pain in the :cuss
• I don't think it is fair to steal views and members from the Bolter and Chainsword, as a general principal.

Now, if only the Librarium were back online...

[EesiOh]

So does anyone have anymore thoughts on these dark mehanicus chaps? And furthermore will we all be writing stuff for them? (esspecially considering they have 13 different leaders) or are they all being handled by one person? 

[Sir Perfluous]

 

Anyway, if you're all interested in using the 40k fanon wikia to work on this project, I'm prepared to follow However, I think the main part of the discussion should happen here on the Bolter & Chainsword for two main reasons:

• As wikia is still a wiki, anyone really can change it as they see fit; even though there are safeguards in place to protect the work, it can still be a pain in the
• I don't think it is fair to steal views and members from the Bolter and Chainsword, as a general principal.

Now, if only the Librarium were back online...

 

 

I agree that all the discussion should be kept here. We should just keep the wiki as a place to compile all that we have - a more elaborate version of your first post.

 

So does anyone have anymore thoughts on these dark mehanicus chaps? And furthermore will we all be writing stuff for them? (esspecially considering they have 13 different leaders) or are they all being handled by one person? 

 

As no-one's going to be actually playing them (for now), I think it'd be best if we all worked on them together.

 

The 13 leaders, I assume, were to give it a witchcraft / 13-is-evil theme, which I like, so we should keep it. We should each lord a name and a title or epithet to distinguish them - something Lovecraftian, like Cthoth-Mgaal, He who Crawls. We could theme each of their thirteen realms around something different and the epithet could connect to that. A land of twisted, blackened copses ruled over by F'tagn-Brakk, the Blackened Corpse, for example. Come to think of it, let's just make the Confederacy an amalgamation of parts of the Cthulhu Mythos. Make the leader Lord Dagon or something.

[EesiOh]

 

 

Anyway, if you're all interested in using the 40k fanon wikia to work on this project, I'm prepared to follow However, I think the main part of the discussion should happen here on the Bolter & Chainsword for two main reasons:

• As wikia is still a wiki, anyone really can change it as they see fit; even though there are safeguards in place to protect the work, it can still be a pain in the
• I don't think it is fair to steal views and members from the Bolter and Chainsword, as a general principal.

Now, if only the Librarium were back online...

 

 

I agree that all the discussion should be kept here. We should just keep the wiki as a place to compile all that we have - a more elaborate version of your first post.

 

So does anyone have anymore thoughts on these dark mehanicus chaps? And furthermore will we all be writing stuff for them? (esspecially considering they have 13 different leaders) or are they all being handled by one person? 

 

As no-one's going to be actually playing them (for now), I think it'd be best if we all worked on them together.

 

The 13 leaders, I assume, were to give it a witchcraft / 13-is-evil theme, which I like, so we should keep it. We should each lord a name and a title or epithet to distinguish them - something Lovecraftian, like Cthoth-Mgaal, He who Crawls. We could theme each of their thirteen realms around something different and the epithet could connect to that. A land of twisted, blackened copses ruled over by F'tagn-Brakk, the Blackened Corpse, for example. Come to think of it, let's just make the Confederacy an amalgamation of parts of the Cthulhu Mythos. Make the leader Lord Dagon or something.

 

Love it. As long as i get dibs on a Herbert West type character im game

[Sir Perfluous]

I doubt we could actually call him Herbert West (perhaps Hggerth-W'ess), but yes, that'd be great. A Zombie Plague type virus, perhaps? We might even be able to tie the Ordo Sepulturum into this - they don't get enough love.

[EesiOh]

I doubt we could actually call him Herbert West (perhaps Hggerth-W'ess), but yes, that'd be great. A Zombie Plague type virus, perhaps? We might even be able to tie the Ordo Sepulturum into this - they don't get enough love.

i probably wouldnt even refernce him in the characters name, just make them similar in terms of the kin of things they get up to and all that. 

[Doctor Perils]

I was originally thinking that we don't actually need to elaborate on all of the Confederation leaders: more, each member of the project can develop one according to the needs of any given plotline he chooses to write; obviously, once one is created, we shouldn't step on the other members' feet and just change him, but they can be reused.

 

I had planned on each of the lords to have their own specialties, but going that step further and having the lands of their realm morph according to  the ruler's personnality is a good idea. I don't know much of the Cthulhu Mythos (unfortunalety), but taking inspiration from it should work.

I think at least one of the leaders could be an ex-Biologis Magus, who develops his own creatures according to his vile plans. This would allow us as well to step back from the stereotype of Mechanicum=Machiney machines with cog-machine sprinkles.

 

 

Happy you seem to like the concept :)

[Kelborn]

Cthulhu like DarkMec? Approved! :D

 

As I'm currently reading the Militarum Tempestus codex, I'm curios if they could fit in as well in our campaign. ;)

[Sir Perfluous]

I was originally thinking that we don't actually need to elaborate on all of the Confederation leaders: more, each member of the project can develop one according to the needs of any given plotline he chooses to write; obviously, once one is created, we shouldn't step on the other members' feet and just change him, but they can be reused.

 

I had planned on each of the lords to have their own specialties, but going that step further and having the lands of their realm morph according to  the ruler's personnality is a good idea. I don't know much of the Cthulhu Mythos (unfortunalety), but taking inspiration from it should work.

I think at least one of the leaders could be an ex-Biologis Magus, who develops his own creatures according to his vile plans. This would allow us as well to step back from the stereotype of Mechanicum=Machiney machines with cog-machine sprinkles.

 

 

Happy you seem to like the concept

 

Actually, keeping them vague and writing them as the story needed them could be a good idea. Though we could always create them now and tweak them according to our needs later.

 

Quick guide to Cthulhu: If its name has too many consonants or apostrophes, and if the thing that owns the name has tentacles and an unknowable, alien intelligence, it's Cthulhu Mythos. Failing this, Wikipedia's a pretty good refresher.

 

I'm also thinking more biological research and warfare than cogs and machinery. Also, zombies. Everything's better with zombies.

[Doctor Perils]

 

I'm also thinking more biological research and warfare than cogs and machinery. Also, zombies. Everything's better with zombies.

 

Of course, with 13 leaders (we'll have to find them a sort of general title), there's a lot of room for variation :)

[Sir Perfluous]

 

 

 

 

I'm also thinking more biological research and warfare than cogs and machinery. Also, zombies. Everything's better with zombies.

 

Of course, with 13 leaders (we'll have to find them a sort of general title)

The Covenant? That sounds sort of menacing.

[Doctor Perils]

 

 

 

 

I'm also thinking more biological research and warfare than cogs and machinery. Also, zombies. Everything's better with zombies.

Of course, with 13 leaders (we'll have to find them a sort of general title)

The Covenant? That sounds sort of menacing.

 

The Covenant of the Confederacy sounds a bit same-y.

 

It might be best as well to give them a title that can work for just one of them (like "Captain" but Dark Mechanicum-y)

[Sir Perfluous]

Fair enough.

 

What about "Prophet"? It has a Mythos-y feel and could tie in to their beliefs - they believe that they can see a greater truth or somethting. The Thirteen Black Prophets of Mahkh-Gtavedd. I like it.

 

Do we have any idea about the origins of the not Covenant Confederacy? A ragtag bunch of hereteks who sought refuge on a planet, formed an alliance and began warping the landscape and inhabitants to their needs - that about it? And is their planet a daemon world? That would fit the warped dominions idea best, but to my understanding, daemon worlds are coveted by the Ruinous Powers. I doubt they'd relinquish one willingly, unless the hereteks found a way to hide it from them.