prime-alber Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 (edited) I can't test the list yet because I don't have the miniaturas. The idea is to have the ogryns in the gorgon with the commander and one squad Edited July 14, 2018 by prime-alber Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5123868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 15, 2018 Share Posted July 15, 2018 I can't test the list yet because I don't have the miniaturas. The idea is to have the ogryns in the gorgon with the commander and one squadYou should ad discipline master cadre to your army because Ogryns only have a leadership of 6. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5124160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
foto69man Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 What is everyone's thoughts on the faq? I know I'm late to the party with this question. Â I'll freely admit I was one that had some rending cultists... Dhar'Neth 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5128005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 What is everyone's thoughts on the faq? I know I'm late to the party with this question. Â I'll freely admit I was one that had some rending cultists... In short: necessary.Puny mortals shouldn't be that powerful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5128025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 Fearless Cultists (like Marksmen Vets) were a brainless choice. I don't mean any offence to anyone with that and they were super cool, but considering their versatility and lack of any weakness they were plum broken. Â Losing fearless means morale is an issue that needs to be played around. Â Otherwise, not sure the FAQ had much effect on Militia and Cults. No idea if they get access to Augary Scanners but if they do that's a nice buff. Gorgoff and Marshal Vespasian 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5128039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 The removal of Fearless was utterly necessary. Maybe now we'll see a broader diversity in Provenances.  As for the Augury Scanner, yes, Enginseer Auxilia (which are an elites choice) and their Servitor buddies can take one. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5128093 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted July 21, 2018 Share Posted July 21, 2018 A change was definitely needed, but I'll be the first to say it's made that particular provenance not a very good option anymore. The army already has lots of access to stubborn and hatred in exchange for shooting isn't really worth it. The issue has always been low leadership and I look forward to them giving the list another pass in the next fear years. Â Personally I've always run mine as tainted flesh + feral warriors using grenadiers. I suspect we'll see more of those sorts of lists. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5128275 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 A change was definitely needed, but I'll be the first to say it's made that particular provenance not a very good option anymore. The army already has lots of access to stubborn and hatred in exchange for shooting isn't really worth it. The issue has always been low leadership and I look forward to them giving the list another pass in the next fear years. Â Personally I've always run mine as tainted flesh + feral warriors using grenadiers. I suspect we'll see more of those sorts of lists. How do you make yours look tainted? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5128366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted July 22, 2018 Share Posted July 22, 2018 I give them dark eldar ritual blades and an assortment of kroot melee weapons. I like it to be more subtle. Makes them look ferral and dangerous, which I guess matches my rules. Â Ficinus, Gorgoff, Tipsy Techpriest and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5128705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 23, 2018 Share Posted July 23, 2018 I give them dark eldar ritual blades and an assortment of kroot melee weapons. I like it to be more subtle. Makes them look ferral and dangerous, which I guess matches my rules. Â The Crows, of course. Great conversions if ya ask me. :) Brofist 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5128821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlphaOmegon Posted March 19, 2019 Share Posted March 19, 2019 Been running Cult Horde/Tainted Flesh in a 500 point list for a Centurion escalation league. Having fun, but debating changing over to Dark Compliance instead. Â The lack of tanks and artillery is hurting a bit Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5279703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 What tanks are people using for their militia? Â I have a plan for two milita armies, one being a power armoured force (using warrior elite and survivors of the dark age and van saar models) a mixed force of both foot infantry and mechanised infantry but was wondering what tanks I should use to back them up with. I was going to have some sentinels to act as fire support (again, unsure of what loadouts to have for them), tank wise I was going to have 3 Vanquishers for some much needed AT weapons but I am at a loss as to what I should have the other squadrons as. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5340609 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 If going for survivors the humble Rhino can be decent. Triple Twin-lascannon Land Raiders are excellent too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5340620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Thats the plan on the Rhino front, a 10 man squad in a Rhino with storm bolters and a multi melta for close ranged support but looking at the rough list I was seeing the lack of armoured back up (expect the Russ Vanqs) I am stuck between the standard Russ vs the Demolisher for some close fire support for my infantry and was thinking of an Exterminator to get rid MEQ. Â Â But the last game I played was in 5ed and I have no idea how things work now-days or whats good and whats not. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5340624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Thats the plan on the Rhino front, a 10 man squad in a Rhino with storm bolters and a multi melta for close ranged support but looking at the rough list I was seeing the lack of armoured back up (expect the Russ Vanqs) I am stuck between the standard Russ vs the Demolisher for some close fire support for my infantry and was thinking of an Exterminator to get rid MEQ. Â Â But the last game I played was in 5ed and I have no idea how things work now-days or whats good and whats not. Â Guns are all fairly similar to their 5th ed counterparts so I wouldn't worry too much! Â Demolishers are great as an instant threat with that nasty S10 AP2 template scaring the hell out of everyone. Always take a pintle stubber for 5 pts to help offset the weapon destroyed too. Â Stormhammers are bloody awesome too, as is the classic Baneblade for LoW choices (which you'll probably need as Militia!) Â Alternatively, you can look to the Solar Auxilia as allies for some awesome armoured support. They can take a tank commander as the HQ, troops in a Dracosan (think like a Demolisher and Rhino had a baby) and then one of many quality Heavy Support Tank Choices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5340780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Foes Remain Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Â Â Guns are all fairly similar to their 5th ed counterparts so I wouldn't worry too much! Â Demolishers are great as an instant threat with that nasty S10 AP2 template scaring the hell out of everyone. Always take a pintle stubber for 5 pts to help offset the weapon destroyed too. Â Stormhammers are bloody awesome too, as is the classic Baneblade for LoW choices (which you'll probably need as Militia!) Â Alternatively, you can look to the Solar Auxilia as allies for some awesome armoured support. They can take a tank commander as the HQ, troops in a Dracosan (think like a Demolisher and Rhino had a baby) and then one of many quality Heavy Support Tank Choices. Â Â Oh I plan to have a Solar Auxilia army at some point, really really long term plan is to have a force (of varying sizes) of each Legion, Solar Auxilia, two Imperial Militia Armies (one power armoured as above and the other based on the geno soldiers [so warrior elite and gene-crafted]) and maybe elements of a Knight Household. Waiting eagerly on book 9 which apparently will have stuff related to the Exped Fleets. But I also want my armies to be self containing, being able to battle without relying on allied armies which is why I am wondering about supporting Leman Russ Tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5340823 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Nothing wrong with taking three times three Russ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5340854 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 2, 2019 Share Posted July 2, 2019 Militia options are so limited that its usually your best bet! Â The Carnodon is a thing too, but unless you like autocannons it's not super great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5341032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brofist Posted July 4, 2019 Share Posted July 4, 2019 Bah! Who needs tanks!! Send in the next wave!!! Unknown Legionnaire, Charlo and Reyner 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5342018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
choppyred Posted March 6, 2020 Share Posted March 6, 2020 Does anyone have any ideas as to what would be good in a 1000pt zone mortalis list? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5486921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Depends.  Loyalist or traitor ?  Which Provenances do you fancy most ?  In general, Heavy Flamer Support Squads and Ogryns might serve you well.  Also, be aware of the 15-men squad size limitation in ZM. choppyred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5487097 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 I quite like the idea of the heavt flamer squad combined with the improve AP by 1 WL trait... a squad of 10 AP3 heavy flamer teams is the most brutal anti marine thing i can think of in the militia list... Tho AP3 heavy bolters might be a more reasonable option... Brother Sutek and choppyred 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5487108 Share on other sites More sharing options...
choppyred Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Depends.  Loyalist or traitor ?  Which Provenances do you fancy most ?  In general, Heavy Flamer Support Squads and Ogryns might serve you well.  Also, be aware of the 15-men squad size limitation in ZM. Which provenances would work best in ZM? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5487130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian_F_H Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 (edited) I would assume anything boosting durability would be handy since you cant take any tanks or transports.  So abhuman helots for t4 infantry and t6 ogrynns.  Survivors of the DAOT for 4+ inf and 3+ grenadiers and ogryns  The tech guard one for 6+ FNP perhaps.  Tho i am fond of feral warriors to give ogrynns +2 attacks. I like the idea of giving them power axes with maybe a few boarding shields.  Tho the combo of abhuman hellots and SOTDAOT giving T6 3+ ogryns is a very durable unit. Even if the enemy shoots at them with ap3 or ap2 weapons, they tend to be low rate of fire. So something like a melta or lascanon may be very likely to wound, its still just 1 wound on a 3 wound goon out of a squad that could be 10 ogrynn.   Edit: the idea of taking SOTDAOT and upgrading all the grenadier guns such that you are running around with massed S5 guns to wound marines on 3+ is amusing. Edited March 7, 2020 by Canadian_F_H choppyred 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5487227 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted March 7, 2020 Share Posted March 7, 2020 Â Â Depends. Â Loyalist or traitor ? Â Which Provenances do you fancy most ? Â In general, Heavy Flamer Support Squads and Ogryns might serve you well. Â Also, be aware of the 15-men squad size limitation in ZM. Which provenances would work best in ZM? Depends. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/314048-hh10-militia-and-cults-tactica/page/12/#findComment-5487241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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