Charlo Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 7th is pretty Damn simple, the problem is that the book always assumes you are totally new, it doesn't do well to explain the differences in editions so it leads to a lot of confusion with legacy rules just disappearing :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appiah4 Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 So long as the IC and the transport are Battle Brothers, there's nothing to suggest they can't. BB can join each other''s squads, and ride in their transports. The only restriction is that if a transport is bought as a dedicated transport for a squad, then that squad has to start in it.There's nothing to say an IC can't join a squad in their dedicated transport, should there be room enough. You learn something new everyday. 7th Edition really overcomplicated pretty much everything was like that in 6th too Seriously? I'm almost sure units could not start embarked in an ally's transport? EDIT: I need to play some games, haven't even watched a game in over a year.. hobby's been mostly relegated to painting for me, and I guess it shows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted November 13, 2015 Share Posted November 13, 2015 Battle Brothers may embark on each others Transports. In the current rules there is a breakdown of what Battle Brother level allies can do. Additionally, in the Transports section it states that Dedicated Transports can only be deployed with the unit they are purchased with (plus any attached ICs) embarked. The only contentious issue is whether or not the Chaplain can join a specific Formation/use their transports. The main reason being that they are using the Formations rules to get on the board (these Drop Pods arrive in the first turn and don't count towards Drop Pod Assault you see). However, there is precedence for cargo being permitted to arrive with the Stormraven in the Adeptus Astartes Stormwing Formation, so it's all nonsense really :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RenderDead Posted November 14, 2015 Share Posted November 14, 2015 Ok cool, for some reason that was fuzzy with me. That is really powerful putting an IC with those devastators. I do like the skyhammer formation, sure its very strong but no reason to feel you are cheesing. With the lists I see people bring to my tournament scene this is just another strong choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 16, 2015 Author Share Posted November 16, 2015 Had another game vs a very cool Eldar/Harlie/DE corsair-esue list. Skyhammer was dumb, again. Army defs loses its teeth once its done and shot - really needs some beefy characters to support. I'm finding the jumpers very lack-luster, but without investing more points in them, wont be able to change that up. Enjoying the list though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted November 16, 2015 Share Posted November 16, 2015 Have you considered the RG formation with the Vets & Scouts? Edit: Shadowstrike Killteam is what I'm on about... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Some new changes. A lot will depend on the next tourney whether or not i use the skyhammer. I feel that for where I'm going, the Skyhammer will not be as good for all the top daemon players (the top three in that area!!). As a result, i'm looking to something a little more versatile. (Asterisks denote the FTSF) Chaplain - Veritas, Auspex Libby Dread Corteas Inquisitor - 3x skulls, infernus pistol, power armour. Damocles Dreadnought - TLLC 5x TAC - mg 1x Razor - Las/plas 5x TAC - mg (or HF) 1x Razor - Las/plas 7x TAC - mg, cmbi-mg, vet, fist 1x Pod (chap, corts and inq likely to go here) Sicaran Scorpius - Ignore Cover Raven - Extra Armour, TLAC, TLMM 3x Typhoon Speeders (alternative to above is to work in a FTSF, and have 2x attack bikes + Fire Raptor instead of Speeders + Dread -which i think for the meta may be better.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Why the inq and Corteaz? Just psychic support and anti alpha strike? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartali Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 I don't think Skyhammer is that great to be honest. Assault Marines are more or less a tax to get the Grav Devs. The Grav Devs are quite expensive considering they only really have one turn of meaningful shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 23, 2015 Author Share Posted November 23, 2015 Why the inq and Corteaz? Just psychic support and anti alpha strike? It's a combo, yup! Basically with the damocles and whirly + skulls - i get good firing solutions and minimal scatter. This only really works amazingly when i get first turn. Basically, i'm gravitating towards a solid alpha-strike list. With veritas, the chance of getting #4 on the strat table is high. That means if i'm not going first off the bat, i'll have a 5+ reroll chance to seize. And I really like those odds. Also, i HATE being seized on. Further to that, with a little psyker support, a little anti daemon and even some consideration for WBEY, i think its solid. That being said, i've heard that there are other skyhammer formations going to be present that side. This now means i may have to do some restructuring again ><; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
evildrcheese Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Nice list. Some cool bits and combos. Have you had much chance to play test this list? EDC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted November 23, 2015 Share Posted November 23, 2015 Why the Chaplain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Why the Chaplain? For multiple Relics! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Why the Chaplain? For multiple Relics! Priest can take multiple Relics too, can't he? I wondered why the Chappie specifically - for Zealot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Why the Chaplain? For multiple Relics! Priest can take multiple Relics too, can't he? I wondered why the Chappie specifically - for Zealot? As in Relic Vehicles. The Sicaran and Whirlwind Scorpius are both "relic" meaning they're from the crusade, essentially. You can only have one of these in any given army list unless you have the corresponding character that unlocks more. In our case it was a Reclusiarch, but FW emails say it's now just a chappy :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 Ah yes of course! You mean Relics of the Armoury, not Relics of Baal... My group normally plays 1500 points but if I can get someone to try 1850 or 2000 I'll definitely be taking my Chappie, Sicaran and Deredeo out for a spin together :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjr Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 He's talking about Forge World relics of the armory. You have to bring a Chaplain (used to be Reclusiarch) to bring more than one of the cool toys (Sicaran / Whirlwind Scorpius). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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