Dantay VI Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Hi, I am looking for some advice. I recently took the plunge into the character models of the Horus Heresy. After years of collecting I have decided to just get things which I want rather than need (except the upcoming plastic boxed set) There are 2 figures from the HH range which I have always always wanted. Angron and of course Horus. I really want to do these models justice and really stretch my skills aout a bit, learn how to work new colours and new techniques. I have been thinking about a paint scheme for Horus and rather than the traditional black armour or pearl grey with red cloak, I want to do something different. His armour was described as Sea green with a purple cloak in " False Gods" when he went to war on Davin. So I thought that it would be cool to try this colour combination out. It is a departure from what normally do (reds, blacks & greys for my Space Wolves) http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb456/dantay_xv/gallery_79710_9603_1175298_1.jpg It will take me right out of my comfort zone. I almost never paint purple and very rarely do greens. Armour trim will be really tricky to keep balanced without either being too dark or too gaudy, especially gold. So I am asking for advice, with regards to purples, I have the old warlock and liche purples and for greens I have DA green, snot green and Scorpion green. I think the greens will be unsuitable, so I need help to get a sea green colour going from almost black up. Also a nice majestic purple colour, can I achieve it with the colours I have?? With regards to paint. I have no Vallejo, P3 etc stockists anywhere near by and have a GW voucher needing to be used. FW paints might be good, but getting to a GW store to pick them up may mean iI would have to wait a long time. I do not airbrush, but airbrush paints are fine to me as I always thin down paints anyhow. GW paints in the short term would be my preferred option as the only time between now and mid-December where I can get to a store will be this coming Sunday. Lastly, I have never worked with pigments or powders before... I am planning to do a light warm brownish marble, because the armour is going to be pretty dark, I would like to learn how to do weathering. Maybe throwing myself in at the deep end isn't the greatest of ideas, but which FW powders and pigments would be a good idea to us? The earth is going to be earth and gravel, with a powdered dust of the marble through it, so again I was thinking to go with a light to medium colour. What would be best for dusting the ends of the cloak, boots etc?? So in effect, help me paint a drop dead cool Horus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
God-Potato of Mankind Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 You could try getting a pot of Sons of Horus Green from Forgeworld. Otherwise the SoH green is a tricky, complicated one. Really godawful, for me at least. I recently ordered a tub of Turqouise from Army Painter which looks viable, I'll let you know how that turns out. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
furstyferret Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 You better post picture of this once you get started Purple is a bit of a pain to paint well, but I'd probably get the new paints if I were you, they're pretty good. In the deepest shadows you'll want to be almost black and not highlight up too much or it can look pink. I think FW had a tutorial about how to achieve the Sons of Horus green in their download section. It involves a bit of mixing though. Have you had a look on the Vallejo colour chart to see if there's something out of the bottle that is near to what you want? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Hi GPoM, yes indeed let me know how the paints work out. I was tempted to rder them from the local GW when I get there at the weekend. Can I order FW stuff at a GW and use my voucher? Furstyferret: I will take a lok at Vallejo, as I may place an oline order for teh boxed set and it will give me free postage, so a vallejo paint might work. Have you ever been to the craft shop at Lethem? They had a few AP odds and ends and were looking into becoming vallejo stockists. Got tons of nice bits in the mode section, like the brass rods, tubes etc.... I'll have a look. Btw, are the FW colours different to GW colours or are they te same, just with a different name? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
furstyferret Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 The colours appear to be the new range on the FW painting guides. I didn't realise Letham Craft Shop had all that sort of thing. I'll have to pop down there one of the days and have a rummage...cheers Have a look at something like VGC Survy Green as a base colour. Their model colour range is bigger, but might be harder to select from. Did you know that Targe is later this month? I'm sure someone there will be stocking Vallejo paints. I'd suggest you have a look through them rather than relying on the computer screen to judge. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Oh they have a ton of stuff which is not useful at all, but if you have a partner who is in to arts and crafts then it is ace for everyone. They do all the micron pens etc too. Or atleast they did a few months back. Targe, is that in Kirriemuir? I'll look u te date, but I get home this weekend and head off again for a two week spell on Monday Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215762 Share on other sites More sharing options...
furstyferret Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I'll check that out, thanks man! Hmm, you might be around for that...the 28th?. But yeah, it's the Kirrie show. If not, I'll have a look and make some suggestions if you want. Or I could be 'that guy' and take a picture of a couple of suitable pots. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Yes, I should be around. I'll try and talk the old man into going. I wanted to get him to SKELP as last time I went, they had all the WW2 stuff and historicals, which I think he would be quite in to. No need for pics. I have fancied swapping GW for vallejo paints, so I'll work up a list of what needs replacing and check the colour charts. Dropper botles will be good as I use pallettes for most of my painting anyways :) I might see you there if you attend. Do they do painting competitions? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
furstyferret Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Yeah, the dropper bottles are far better than the GW design. There should be a painting competition...good chance to win some new stuff Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 I doubt it if I am up against your Iron Warriors, we will see though :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 I was actually wondering if the easiest way to do the cloak, would be to blend from black to white and then give it a purple wash with Leviathan purple or Eidolon purple. Either that or make a Chemos purple glaze. My other thought is to start with a black purple mix and highlight with purple and then add in space wolf grey. Thoughts?? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
furstyferret Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 I was actually wondering if the easiest way to do the cloak, would be to blend from black to white and then give it a purple wash with Leviathan purple or Eidolon purple. Either that or make a Chemos purple glaze. My other thought is to start with a black purple mix and highlight with purple and then add in space wolf grey. Thoughts?? Do you have an airbrush? You could do that method then airbrush purple over it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215830 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Nope, no airbrush, I do it all by hand... Which is why model purchases will stop fr a few months after Christmas, so I can save for the airbrush :) I just spend hours, mixing and blending instead, whch is why I am trying to do "squads in batches" as doing single models can be a bit demoralising Hence 80% of everythng I have is barely past basecoat stage :( http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb456/dantay_xv/20151029_200935.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
furstyferret Posted November 4, 2015 Share Posted November 4, 2015 Holy crap, is that all your Space Wolves? I've seen your posts on one of the SW threads and the shields and knot work you do looks really cool. Airbrushes are over-rated I think. I've only used mine to do my Brass Scorpion and lost interest after that. Glazing will probably achieve what you're looking to do anyway...and it's a lot less hassle and cleaning up. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215864 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dantay VI Posted November 4, 2015 Author Share Posted November 4, 2015 Yep, thats almost all my Space Wolves infantry, Left 3rd is HH stuff (minus the fen & thunderwolves)there is a squad or 2 missing, the other 2/3rds of the table is all 40K stuff, but I could proxy in 30K I suppose. There is another 10 bikes getting stripped too. I also have a vehicle pool, but that is looking a lot healthier paint wise. But an air brush would be a big boon! Tbh, I would invest in a cheap airbrush because I want it for laying done base coats and doing basic highlights. I only get a significant amount of time to paint when I am at work and am not able to take an airbrush with me. So the airbrush managiing to get the general work done would be a big boost. When I get good, I can look at a better quality brush and try some of the finer tricks. I am not going under the illusion that airbrushes are dead easy to master so will take my time and build up the skills accordingly. I could try both techniques, on each side of the cloak and see which works best for me :) I might also try the AoS golds out on Horus too. Save my standard gold painting for Angrn as his armour is pre-dominantly a brassy gold colour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/315638-painting-horus/#findComment-4215877 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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