bluntblade Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 Something more aerodynamic would be my recommendation. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4710934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grifftofer Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 I've never seen the series. This is the MkII Viper from the modern Battlestar Galactica series. There were some other Marks in the show (mainly MkVII I think), but this is the iconic one. To compare: As can be seen there are some obvious similarities between the two. And the main difference (the wings) can be attributed to the Xiphon being an atmospheric/space fighter, where the Viper is primarily intended for space combat. Kelborn 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4710940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 13, 2017 Author Share Posted April 13, 2017 I'm more inclined to use the fighter design from Babylon 5 or something based on the F-22 Raptor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4710943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 17, 2017 Share Posted April 17, 2017 F-22 style could be very neat. simison 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4712953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted April 17, 2017 Author Share Posted April 17, 2017 I agree, it could show a natural evolution from current fighters to 40k fighters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4713032 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 In the meantime, I need the lowdown on Zivich, their leader, and his walker. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4721367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 1, 2017 Share Posted May 1, 2017 Perhaps Malis' guys are given a fief world within Icarion's domain which the Halcyon Wardens had originaly conquered/liberated? We could take one from a Second Son campaign. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4727008 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 1, 2017 Author Share Posted May 1, 2017 Perhaps Malis' guys are given a fief world within Icarion's domain which the Halcyon Wardens had originaly conquered/liberated? We could take one from a Second Son campaign. Hm, perhaps the system that was invaded by the space hulk? The Saxonia system. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4727074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 2, 2017 Share Posted May 2, 2017 Sounds good. I'll see if I come up with anything from that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4727281 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 6, 2017 Author Share Posted May 6, 2017 Malis watched his master study leaves with the same intensity as he had when making strategic decisions. In this 'room' of the Primarch's garden, a tropical atmosphere lent the air a thickness as Malis wiped off a bead of sweat from his forehead. "What do you think, Malis?" Alexandros inquired as he seemed to settle on two different leaves. Malis considered the two plants. One was camellia sinensis, a survivor from ancient Terra that had managed to journey all the way to the 31st millennium. The other was known as Ainexian ocha, a more recent find that had come from the Wardens' last campaign. What they shared was a similar purpose as a key ingredient to a beverage. "It must be quite frustrating to be denied your powers," Malis drolled. With a laugh, Alexandros answered, "It's good practice. I will not deny their potency or their utility, but diplomacy has its own skills in need of sharpening that do not rely on telepathy or divination." "Why does the Jade General insist on having a Pariah guard with him at all times?" "Not all times," Alexandros said as he returned to his dilemma. After a moment, he added, "Just most of the time. My brother has a distrust of the Warp that can be healthy, and at times not so healthy. Anyway, you're avoiding my question." Malis paused as he thought about the answer. "Since tradition is important to the Warriors, I'd recommend the camellia." Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4731777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 6, 2017 Share Posted May 6, 2017 Do you have an idea when Alex and Akylles might interact properly fir the first time? Also, had an idea for a scene sometime during Mars. Probably Alex and an Astartes, though I'm not certain who: “I see Icarion’s mind, at least where this system is concerned. See the pieces, assume that we would commit to his design, and it’s quite simple. We would be a blade to the throat of Terra, the factor that made Kelbor-Hal’s victory on Mars all but inevitable.” “What of the Custodians?” Alexandros reflected. “The Ten Thousand are but ten thousand. That matters on the ground and in the void. Moreover, they aren’t a Legion, and don’t have anything like our fleets. The yellow martinets don’t get all the best toys.” Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4731791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 6, 2017 Author Share Posted May 6, 2017 I'm not sure. There are three potential scenes I can think of. One, Alex is able to visit Delos and meet with that day's graduating recruits and Al is one of them. Two, after the Martian campaign. Three, Alex, when he's not concentrating or focusing his powers, can have random bursts of visions. Perhaps Al is one, and the Warmaster is curious about him. Of the three, I think two is most likely, while one lays down the feel of preordained destiny. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4731945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 9, 2017 Author Share Posted May 9, 2017 So, going all the way back to the heraldry of Malis' Hammers. Ultimately, I agree with Drak's suggestion. Instead of red pauldrons, the Traitor Wardens paint theirs black as a sign of mourning of the loss of unity and for Alex not heeding Icarion's warning of treachery. They will also trade out the the three rings of unity for a single ring with a lightning bolt through it to represent their new allegiance. bluntblade and Doctor Perils 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4734181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 I'd prefer a circumstantial rise for Akylles. He's simply the best man with enough luck at the right time and place. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4745104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 I'd prefer a circumstantial rise for Akylles. He's simply the best man with enough luck at the right time and place. I...isn't that true for most great men? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4745107 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 It is. I'd just rather that to be underlined by the first encounter, rather than being the subject of Alex's visions. Although we could have a middle ground of Alex perceiving patterns in his foresight, and seeing that as a "wyrd", if you will. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4745112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 (edited) True. I just meant I'd take that over Alex seeing Akylles in his visions Edit: hmm, thought the other post had been eaten Edited May 17, 2017 by bluntblade Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4745132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 Oh! You're answering the May 6th post. Got it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4745155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Sorry, I should've quoted it. By the way, how do you picture Alex preferring to use the Wardens' armour units? Spearheads a la the Iron Hands, support roles or somewhere in between? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4745163 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted May 17, 2017 Author Share Posted May 17, 2017 Depends on whether there is a shield wall or not. If so, then armour is primarily flank support. If not, they tend to be the spearhead, allowing the Prefects to shine. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4745237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Cool Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4745244 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Sim, is there a rank between Legates/Lord Cammanders/Prefects and Captains? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4801316 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 Brigadiers command brigades which are ad hoc organizations of companies for a particular campaign. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4801324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 So they're in between? Cool. Btw, does Alex retain any core command companies beyond the Myrmidons? I figure that he'd keep those aboard the Elpis pretty constant, with Ruel and another Lord Commander available. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4801375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
simison Posted June 28, 2017 Author Share Posted June 28, 2017 Just remember, they are a temporary rank. Off-hand, I'd say no. Instead, Alex would take care to cycle through different formations so that he has at least a chance to fight with every unit in his Legion...eventually. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/316969-il-v-the-halcyon-wardens/page/21/#findComment-4801386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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