Charlo Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I mean, it is still a good 4-500 points for a command squad and Preator... So it's debatable, but a good option! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445499 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietOfLiquor Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 I just wish destroyers got some tlc. I keep trying to fit them in a list. But I'd rather take a command squad at the same cost. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445504 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Well, destoryers work pretty well as a transport for moritat. They become more usable with us than any other legion - between a 5+ Cover, pinning on the rad weapons and all of the combat bonuses and now jump pack apothecaries, they can absolute chew through things. Â Sure the unit is like 650 points but you just gotta use em right. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445512 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Well, destoryers work pretty well as a transport for moritat. They become more usable with us than any other legion - between a 5+ Cover, pinning on the rad weapons and all of the combat bonuses and now jump pack apothecaries, they can absolute chew through things. Â Sure the unit is like 650 points but you just gotta use em right. The rule of cool my man, the rule of cool. Â Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Quite right! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445623 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietOfLiquor Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Oh, I follow the rule of cool ;) I always take a small 5 man squad with my UM. Just Revelations makes me wanna do a 10 man jump pack squad to drop in turn 1. Hahah. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Id also like to point out how useful Marksmen Vets are for us now. If you're going to flank the enemy close to their lines from reserve, the chances of them being engaged by a close combat unit are pretty high, giving us a leg up with our -1 to wound. Remember to give your sergeants a CC weapon like an axe or a fist. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Id also like to point out how useful Marksmen Vets are for us now. If you're going to flank the enemy close to their lines from reserve, the chances of them being engaged by a close combat unit are pretty high, giving us a leg up with our -1 to wound. Remember to give your sergeants a CC weapon like an axe or a fist.  Pretty much this. I'll always be running my 40k Firestorm squad as sniper vets now.  Heavy Flamer, Flamer, Two Hand Flamers, Sniper. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) Dude. Seriously?  If you have the points:  2x Heavy Flamer, 8x Hand Flamers, Sniper.  OH WHATS THAT!? MY S3 HAND FLAMERS STILL WOUND YOUR T8 MC ON A 4+!? WELL AINT THAT A SHAME!  Or  CHARGE ME FOOLS, I DARE YA! Edited July 18, 2016 by Slipstreams CaptainHelion, AfroCampbell, DietOfLiquor and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445715 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietOfLiquor Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 Dude. Seriously?  If you have the points:  2x Heavy Flamer, 8x Hand Flamers, Sniper.  OH WHATS THAT!? MY S3 HAND FLAMERS STILL WOUND YOUR T8 MC ON A 4+!? WELL AINT THAT A SHAME!  Or  CHARGE ME FOOLS, I DARE YA!  Oh god. I'm dying over here slips. Hahah. Slips 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 18, 2016 Share Posted July 18, 2016 (edited) Backpacks are magnetised. Not legal in 30k yet but...  YOU UNDERESTIMATE MY POWER  http://i1380.photobucket.com/albums/ah177/nevscorner/20151115_163759_zpsumqrfkx7.jpg  FIRE AND DEATH.  And the load out I said is purely because my models are like that, it's a 40k Tac squad that I'll sub in as mk7 Veterans :P Edited July 18, 2016 by Charlo DietOfLiquor and CaptainHelion 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietOfLiquor Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 That's the dream. Vets who get the apothecary treatment and can take jump packs or bikes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016  Id also like to point out how useful Marksmen Vets are for us now. If you're going to flank the enemy close to their lines from reserve, the chances of them being engaged by a close combat unit are pretty high, giving us a leg up with our -1 to wound. Remember to give your sergeants a CC weapon like an axe or a fist.  Pretty much this. I'll always be running my 40k Firestorm squad as sniper vets now.  Heavy Flamer, Flamer, Two Hand Flamers, Sniper.  The dream is real. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 A dream, within a dream? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHelion Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Dude. Seriously?  If you have the points:  2x Heavy Flamer, 8x Hand Flamers, Sniper.  OH WHATS THAT!? MY S3 HAND FLAMERS STILL WOUND YOUR T8 MC ON A 4+!? WELL AINT THAT A SHAME!  Or  CHARGE ME FOOLS, I DARE YA!  Charlo is prepared. Charlo understands. Gorgoff 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016  Dude. Seriously?  If you have the points:  2x Heavy Flamer, 8x Hand Flamers, Sniper.  OH WHATS THAT!? MY S3 HAND FLAMERS STILL WOUND YOUR T8 MC ON A 4+!? WELL AINT THAT A SHAME!  Or  CHARGE ME FOOLS, I DARE YA!  Charlo is prepared. Charlo understands.  I WAS BORN IN THE HAND FLAMER, MOLDED BY IT. I WAS BUT A MAN BEFORE I SAW THE DEATHFIRE!  My reputation also proceed's me from the BA section and my affinity to burninate.  But yes, outflanking firestorm vets are the new fave for me, super cheap and effective.  I'm list hammering at the moment and I just feel so free. You get a good 20-30 assault marines and apothecary support for SO CHEAP now. CaptainHelion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4445978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Really thinking about it just HOT DAMN on assault marines... Â About 12-15 dudes, Sergeant tricked out with shield and power weapon, two power weapons in the squad and another on the apothecary. Â All for >350 points. Â Just incredible, the only way they fall down slightly is that they are only WS4. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4446098 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminus Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 Remains to be seen if they made them too cheap, they certainly are the best non-Veteran troop choice now. Really easy for Legions like Sons of Horus or Night Lords to get that outnumbering bonus. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4446566 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 19, 2016 Share Posted July 19, 2016 I don't think they are too cheap, they are still just a MEQ body and they give up fury of the legion for 12" movement, a fair trade IMO. Â Some legions use units better than others, same as IF use Breachers and Heavy support marines :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4446584 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 The smart thing to do is to give Vet Marksmen heavy flamers, have them come in on the flank and flame away. ....but I have just this weird urge to give them assault cannons, just for "umpf' factor. ....but then again, even if i put them on a home objective unit, the range will be to short to justify the 40 points. Decisions decisions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4446731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Assault cannons on infantry is a trap IMO, you can't move and even though it has a decent rate of fire you won't be doing much. Â Also because they have natural rending you totally waste the sniper rule on them other than wounding T7 easier. Â Obviously Terminators are the exception here ;) Flint13 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4446840 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 Assault cannons on infantry is a trap IMO, you can't move and even though it has a decent rate of fire you won't be doing much.  Also because they have natural rending you totally waste the sniper rule on them other than wounding T7 easier.  Obviously Terminators are the exception here O theres no doubt its a bad idea, it just looks like stupid fun Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4447089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I just don't see the fun in getting no use out of a unit because it'll be snap shooting for a turn then getting shot up... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4447113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m0nolith Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 I just don't see the fun in getting no use out of a unit because it'll be snap shooting for a turn then getting shot up... Home objective unit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4447149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theredknight Posted July 20, 2016 Share Posted July 20, 2016 For us a flanking vet unit would be good, especially if we have a Damocles to add +1 to incoming reserve rolls. Â I think as a rule we will have enough anti infantry tied up. Think missile launchers are worth a pop for that side armour goodness? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/318908-hh10-blood-angels-tactica-assault-cannons-for-days/page/22/#findComment-4447229 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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