[HH1.0] Black Shields Tactica

[Terminus]

"It's being said" is very vague. What's the source? And is this consistent among all the versions of the new Core book?

[Perry]

"It's being said" is very vague. What's the source? And is this consistent among all the versions of the new Core book?

 

In the weapon profile and the summary page in the physical book, both have Chainaxes as +1S.

 

If it were a typo surely it would be different on each page?

[Khornestar]

 

"It's being said" is very vague. What's the source? And is this consistent among all the versions of the new Core book?

 

In the weapon profile and the summary page in the physical book, both have Chainaxes as +1S.

 

If it were a typo surely it would be different on each page?

 

 

Same in the eBook. Can't speak for the "enhanced" version.

 

*edit*

 

Also, praise Khorne there's actually a freakin' summary page at the end of the book. Nothing more frustrating than flipping around for 10 years trying to find a profile.

Edited July 19, 2016 by Venomlust

[Dono1979]

Apologies I had been told that Garro had said that it was a typo but I cannot find the quote and as the physical book has the increase in St it looks pretty solid, back to maiming people with axes

[Thedarkprincesnun]

Can black shields get vets as troops in anyway?

[Charlo]

Can black shields get vets as troops in anyway?

 

Nope.

[Thedarkprincesnun]

 

 

Can black shields get vets as troops in anyway?

Nope.

Damn i wanted WS5 S5 T5 veteran troops Lol

[Charlo]

Well you can take them as elites! Still amazing!

 

Plus Maraders are basically veterans just no extra tactic, but a more awesome sarge and better options.

[Caillum]

And chainaxes! :)

[Thedarkprincesnun]

Good points forgot marauders

Im loving the thought of tactical blobs will apoths attached

[Brother Aiwass]

Yeah, but blackshields can't have tacticals.

[Plaguecaster]

Who needs tactical when you can have marauders :D I'm planning on taking a large Chymeriae squad with apothecary with double bolt pistols and either auto cannons just for some firepower or Heavy Flamers to make them a good assault unit

[CaptainHelion]

For that unit, I'd say the heavy flamers. You'really putting a lot of effort into making it a badass combat unit, it'd be a shame to not be able to charge with them.

[Spinsanity]

Chymerae, with their axes, hit at S6 in CC. Add in a ForgeLord with 'rad nades and you can suddenly ID all the damned 2w termies some legions are so fond if...

[Thedarkprincesnun]

Completely forgot they cant have tacticals oh well marauders it is.

[Plaguecaster]

Does anyone use any automata in their black shield force thinking of taking some through a Forgelord with cortex controller though a Praevian with some Chymeriae vorax or castellax would be nice

[Reyner]

I don't think Chymeriae transfers to the Praevians robots since it isn't a Legion Astartes rule is it?

[Flint13]

^I dunno dude, the Blackshields' Chymeriae (or the overall Wrought by War) doesn't specifically say it only affects Legiones Astartes units, that I can find. 

 

Cymeriae affects "all units in the effected detachment"

 

Why wouldn't the automata be part of the detachment if the Praevian is? 

 

S7T8 Castellax is a hilarious concept. Better yet, Heavy Support Thallaxi that are no longer scared of Str10 templates. 

Edited July 28, 2016 by Flint13

[Spinsanity]

^I dunno dude, the Blackshields' Chymeriae (or the overall Wrought by War) doesn't specifically say it only affects Legiones Astartes units, that I can find. 

 

Cymeriae affects "all units in the effected detachment"

 

Why wouldn't the automata be part of the detachment if the Praevian is? 

 

S7T8 Castellax is a hilarious concept. Better yet, Heavy Support Thallaxi that are no longer scared of Str10 templates. 

Hmm, hadn't realized that the Techmarines' Automata would possibly have access to the bonus too... Note that it right off makes for a broken unit afaik, but it is interesting nonetheless.

[1ncarnadine]

^I dunno dude, the Blackshields' Chymeriae (or the overall Wrought by War) doesn't specifically say it only affects Legiones Astartes units, that I can find. 

 

Cymeriae affects "all units in the effected detachment"

 

Why wouldn't the automata be part of the detachment if the Praevian is? 

 

S7T8 Castellax is a hilarious concept. Better yet, Heavy Support Thallaxi that are no longer scared of Str10 templates. 

 

Hmmm, I think you're very right. Surprised this has been overlooked for so long! S/T7 or WS/BS5 on Vorax could be mean, too. Or Fear & Rage on heavy chainblade Thallaxii.

 

Kind of supported by the entry of the reanimated Castellax on p.75, the one that was part of the zombie-marine/Keys of Hel forces in the Xana conflict. It's a zombot.

[Charlo]

Hooooooly Crap.

 

Now that is what in talking about. Especially T6 Thrallax, that is very nice.

 

Having the ability to give them BS/WS is quite cool too...

[Flint13]

Dear (false) Emperor... this is why the Thousand Sons got purged.

 

WE'VE DELVED TOO DEEP AND WROUGHT MADNESS!

[Doctor Perils]

I'll come right out and say I'd be surprised that's RAI... I believe I'm fairly open minded about what I let my oponents bring to the table, but I'd be thinking twice about playing against this

[Spinsanity]

I'll come right out and say I'd be surprised that's RAI... I believe I'm fairly open minded about what I let my oponents bring to the table, but I'd be thinking twice about playing against this

Don't play against it then, just get on to the Black (Shield) Side and play with it instead! 

[Flint13]

I'll come right out and say I'd be surprised that's RAI... I believe I'm fairly open minded about what I let my oponents bring to the table, but I'd be thinking twice about playing against this

Why would it be a huge issue? It's just one more cool thing that affects half a handful of units that you can play against or try out against an opponent.

 

Plus its hilarious and makes for a super interesting narrative.

 

A bunch of Iron Hands go rogue and Dark Mech up themselves and the Automata in their cyber motor pool.

Edited July 28, 2016 by Flint13