*Furyou Miko Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 It's been a kids' game for a few years now. *sticks my fingers in my ears* what have you said Miko? can't hear you over the sound of how awesome FW is - and how awesome GW was! *re-reads Slaves to Darkness and the HH Black Books* I would reply, but Mod-Miko is glaring at me to keep the thread on topic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4306847 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 To go back to sisters and co: - Tombkings (no clue why) never sold well, and are no longer "part" of their IP. AoS is a new IP (which tries to be as unique as possible), tomb kings were too generic, never sold that much, and aren't part of their new AoS world/lore - hence they dropped them. - Sisters on the other side are an oooold part of their IP, and lets say it like this: If something is part of their 40k IP, you will get a model for it, sooner or later. Sisters need a whole range re-vamp (same with CSM) - a few years ago they didn't have the technique to do both Sisters and Skitarii (coats), now they can. - "New" factions are the future - expect more of them in the next years. Sisters fill the requirements for this. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4306896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I came here because the US web store has 8 of 27 items listed as "temporarily out of stock." Sorry. I know this kind of post is generally unwanted. I know it's probably nothing (at least I hope so), but losing the immolator (and hence probably the exorcist eventually, unless they just decided to stop making that small clear dome thing) has made me paranoid. Either way I have the codex and I'll keep playing sisters no matter what. No sisters-as-space-marines or IG. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4307104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 I came here because the US web store has 8 of 27 items listed as "temporarily out of stock." Sorry. I know this kind of post is generally unwanted. I know it's probably nothing (at least I hope so), but losing the immolator (and hence probably the exorcist eventually, unless they just decided to stop making that small clear dome thing) has made me paranoid. Either way I have the codex and I'll keep playing sisters no matter what. No sisters-as-space-marines or IG. I just want my Repressor back ... that car is useful for both sisters and arbites ,,, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4307203 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ania Redfang Posted February 15, 2016 Share Posted February 15, 2016 If FW brought repressors back I'd buy three in a heartbeat... My take on the exorcist/immolator thing is that they realised you can make an immolator from the exorcist so really why sell the cheaper kit? keeping it in stock is just extra overhead for the few they presumably sell. Hopefully that's the reason, not that they're discontinuing the sisters sprue entirely. TCOTH Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4307331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drehn Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 It may also be a wait and see game from Games Workshop. If Sisters of Silence sell well, you can try another teaser (Plastic basic troops box) and that will gauge need and response to a release and revamp of the whole codex and line. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4307670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 It may also be a wait and see game from Games Workshop. If Sisters of Silence sell well, you can try another teaser (Plastic basic troops box) and that will gauge need and response to a release and revamp of the whole codex and line. SoS will sell well. Sadly they will start with a small army (basically just worth as allies) for them for now .... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4307676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 SoS will sell well. Sadly they will start with a small army (basically just worth as allies) for them for now .... While I know some people would like it otherwise, I think it is actually a good move in keeping the Sisters a 'side' army, similar to Custodes. While they were large branches of the Imperium at the time of the Heresy, they were no where near the size of the Crusade forces who made up the vast majority of the fighting forces at the time. It would be a rare instance for the Sisters or Custodes force (alone) to bring a system or even a world to Compliance and as such I think conflicts between Traitor forces and solely Sisters/Custodes would be equally as rare. In smaller facets of the games (30K) like Zone Mortalis or Tactical Strike, such forces being represented as solo would be ideal and fit nicely and those gaming style should be explored by more players as they are extremely fun. Larger engagements featuring those forces alone however feel a little weird from a narrative and fluff perspective. This is not to say that all (majority) female forces should not form a Primary army, the Imperial Militia and Solar Auxilia both give opportunities to build armies using either the SoB models or 3rd party ones. I have seen some WIPs of such armies on FB and they are looking pretty impressive! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4307796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 SoS will sell well. Sadly they will start with a small army (basically just worth as allies) for them for now .... While I know some people would like it otherwise, I think it is actually a good move in keeping the Sisters a 'side' army, similar to Custodes. While they were large branches of the Imperium at the time of the Heresy, they were no where near the size of the Crusade forces who made up the vast majority of the fighting forces at the time. It would be a rare instance for the Sisters or Custodes force (alone) to bring a system or even a world to Compliance and as such I think conflicts between Traitor forces and solely Sisters/Custodes would be equally as rare. In smaller facets of the games (30K) like Zone Mortalis or Tactical Strike, such forces being represented as solo would be ideal and fit nicely and those gaming style should be explored by more players as they are extremely fun. Larger engagements featuring those forces alone however feel a little weird from a narrative and fluff perspective. This is not to say that all (majority) female forces should not form a Primary army, the Imperial Militia and Solar Auxilia both give opportunities to build armies using either the SoB models or 3rd party ones. I have seen some WIPs of such armies on FB and they are looking pretty impressive! I think it makes sense for the Sisters of Silence force to fit between an Officio Assassinorum Execution Force and an actual army in size and in function. The Sisters of Battle themselves, however, deserve no less than a full army- they NEED a full army, with flyers, ordnance weapons, and tanks. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4307948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dono1979 Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I think it makes sense for the Sisters of Silence force to fit between an Officio Assassinorum Execution Force and an actual army in size and in function. The Sisters of Battle themselves, however, deserve no less than a full army- they NEED a full army, with flyers, ordnance weapons, and tanks. Fully agree with you there, I think the Sisters are one of the best looking armies in the 40K line up, as long as they arent fleshed out with Centurion and Storm Talon type units models I would love to see them expanded. I do hope that FW might get a better role in their future, an Imperial Armour book with them as one of the major factions would do absolute wonders for them I think. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4307972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Actually, Centurions would make a helluva lot more sense for the Sororitas than they do for the Marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 SoS will sell well. Sadly they will start with a small army (basically just worth as allies) for them for now .... While I know some people would like it otherwise, I think it is actually a good move in keeping the Sisters a 'side' army, similar to Custodes. While they were large branches of the Imperium at the time of the Heresy, they were no where near the size of the Crusade forces who made up the vast majority of the fighting forces at the time. It would be a rare instance for the Sisters or Custodes force (alone) to bring a system or even a world to Compliance and as such I think conflicts between Traitor forces and solely Sisters/Custodes would be equally as rare. In smaller facets of the games (30K) like Zone Mortalis or Tactical Strike, such forces being represented as solo would be ideal and fit nicely and those gaming style should be explored by more players as they are extremely fun. Larger engagements featuring those forces alone however feel a little weird from a narrative and fluff perspective. This is not to say that all (majority) female forces should not form a Primary army, the Imperial Militia and Solar Auxilia both give opportunities to build armies using either the SoB models or 3rd party ones. I have seen some WIPs of such armies on FB and they are looking pretty impressive! Oh, dont get me wrong - since I'm (currently) mostly aiming for ZM forces, I'm ok with a smaller list initially - just don't think it's fair that Custodes get a "propper" list while Sisters are only getting one for smaller points games/ZM/allied detachments :/ And yeah, I'm already eyeing with some of Vickys' Arcadians :) :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 There's a good point in being ignored by Games Workshop though, as much as it pains me to admit it. It restricts lore murder to the bare minimum, just a few snippets in other codices (even if being other codices, sisters of battle probably lose badly). We don't want celestians ridings repentias to battle, ninja sisters who throw fleur de lys-shaped shurikens from the shadows or rogue mavericks that save worlds by fighting THE (WO)MAN and who're not terminated by their knowing superiors*, do we? *I'm looking at you, female!Uriel Ventris. Miriya.I mean Miriya. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 No worries, i bring my Spacewolf Battle sisters, and they ride on deers instead of Wolves...GW made me do it btw, so dont blame me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 No worries, i bring my Spacewolf Battle sisters, and they ride on deers instead of Wolves...GW made me do it btw, so dont blame me. Actually ... I like that idea xD Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 No worries, i bring my Spacewolf Battle sisters, and they ride on deers instead of Wolves...GW made me do it btw, so dont blame me. A reference to the elves in Peter Jackson's adaptation of 'The Hobbit'? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308529 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 To go back to sisters and co: - Tombkings (no clue why) never sold well, and are no longer "part" of their IP. AoS is a new IP (which tries to be as unique as possible), tomb kings were too generic, never sold that much, and aren't part of their new AoS world/lore - hence they dropped them. - Sisters on the other side are an oooold part of their IP, and lets say it like this: If something is part of their 40k IP, you will get a model for it, sooner or later. Sisters need a whole range re-vamp (same with CSM) - a few years ago they didn't have the technique to do both Sisters and Skitarii (coats), now they can. - "New" factions are the future - expect more of them in the next years. Sisters fill the requirements for this. I don't think Tomb Kings are truly gone. I think they'll be back with an updated look and feel that makes them more unique to AoS. Much like how a lot of things so far that have come out have a feel that is very specific to the game versus the older generic things we saw under WFB. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308533 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 To go back to sisters and co: - Tombkings (no clue why) never sold well, and are no longer "part" of their IP. AoS is a new IP (which tries to be as unique as possible), tomb kings were too generic, never sold that much, and aren't part of their new AoS world/lore - hence they dropped them. - Sisters on the other side are an oooold part of their IP, and lets say it like this: If something is part of their 40k IP, you will get a model for it, sooner or later. Sisters need a whole range re-vamp (same with CSM) - a few years ago they didn't have the technique to do both Sisters and Skitarii (coats), now they can. - "New" factions are the future - expect more of them in the next years. Sisters fill the requirements for this. I don't think Tomb Kings are truly gone. I think they'll be back with an updated look and feel that makes them more unique to AoS. Much like how a lot of things so far that have come out have a feel that is very specific to the game versus the older generic things we saw under WFB. and then you dont have tomb kings anymore ;) the sphinx and snake-dudes were already pretty "unique" already imo :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308536 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bjorn Firewalker Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Actually, Centurions would make a helluva lot more sense for the Sororitas than they do for the Marines. Sad, but true. The Marines would be better served with a "[insert name of your choice here] pattern Terminator armor" that grants +1 Strength, +1 Toughness, +1 Wound, and power fists with integral weapons. Unfortunately, the competence of Games Workshop's designers is questionable. I'm having nightmares of a "Sisters of Battle Centurion" making its wearer look like a Leman Russ battle tank impregnated her- the Centurion warsuit does the same damn thing to a Space Marine who wears it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 To go back to sisters and co: - Tombkings (no clue why) never sold well, and are no longer "part" of their IP. AoS is a new IP (which tries to be as unique as possible), tomb kings were too generic, never sold that much, and aren't part of their new AoS world/lore - hence they dropped them. - Sisters on the other side are an oooold part of their IP, and lets say it like this: If something is part of their 40k IP, you will get a model for it, sooner or later. Sisters need a whole range re-vamp (same with CSM) - a few years ago they didn't have the technique to do both Sisters and Skitarii (coats), now they can. - "New" factions are the future - expect more of them in the next years. Sisters fill the requirements for this. I don't think Tomb Kings are truly gone. I think they'll be back with an updated look and feel that makes them more unique to AoS. Much like how a lot of things so far that have come out have a feel that is very specific to the game versus the older generic things we saw under WFB. and then you dont have tomb kings anymore the sphinx and snake-dudes were already pretty "unique" already imo :/ We also don't have "Lizardmen" either. From what I saw the only things really falling off the store at the moment are the finecast models, so we'll see how that plays out. EDIT: Speaking about the Sisters properly, 10 out of 27 of the items for sale for the army (10 out of 25 if you discount the digital only codexes) are temporarily out of stock on the US site. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 There's a good point in being ignored by Games Workshop though, as much as it pains me to admit it. It restricts lore murder to the bare minimum, just a few snippets in other codices (even if being other codices, sisters of battle probably lose badly). We don't want celestians ridings repentias to battle, ninja sisters who throw fleur de lys-shaped shurikens from the shadows or rogue mavericks that save worlds by fighting THE (WO)MAN and who're not terminated by their knowing superiors*, do we? *I'm looking at you, female!Uriel Ventris. Miriya. I mean Miriya. I pray to the Emperor, the Omnissiah, and the animistic spirits I actually believe in that James Swallow is never allowed to write another Sisters book again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 I don't know, I thought them breaking a moon in Hammer and Anvil was good. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Yeah, but one more book and she'll actually be exiled to go on a penitent quest and count as 'falling' or something. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308750 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 Yeah, but one more book and she'll actually be exiled to go on a penitent quest and count as 'falling' or something.Or becomes a Repentia. But yes, his way of writing her is more chaotic good than the lawful good we expect for Sisters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted February 16, 2016 Share Posted February 16, 2016 From what I saw the only things really falling off the store at the moment are the finecast models, so we'll see how that plays out. Nope, actually all the Tombking range, including the newer plastics are going to be sold off, and when its gone, its gone ^^ EDIT: Speaking about the Sisters properly, 10 out of 27 of the items for sale for the army (10 out of 25 if you discount the digital only codexes) are temporarily out of stock on the US site. OOS =|= Last Chance to buy - its a new thing on their site, where they mark a product before its gone now. The crazy thing about it, they even tell you its your last chance to buy these products and how awesome they are and you should better buy them. and: move fast if you want these, because when they’re gone, they’re gone... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/319188-the-future-of-sisters/page/2/#findComment-4308769 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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