*Furyou Miko Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Truth is stranger than fiction. This is because truth, unlike fiction, does not have to be believable. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4373785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 Truth is stranger than fiction. This is because truth, unlike fiction, does not have to be believable. Indeed. (warning, it's TV Tropes, but it does a great job listing examples of things that are real, but don't seem realistic). Back on topic: I'm glad I wasn't holding out for these to be the savior of the Sisters army. Sure they can definitely be played as Sisters but even looking past the obvious pin-up influences (not that Sisters were originally completely devoid of those, like the leg hugging armor and power heels worn on the cover of the 2nd edition codex: http://i.imgur.com/ugBKEsd.jpg ) they don't blend well into an existing army making them hard to want to pick up if you're looking to just expand your collection. There are definitely some good ideas in the mix, but unless you're starting anew they don't do it as a force expansion sadly. Also, anyone else thinking those wraithbone eske "wings" on the jump packs look like the flash is still on the resin and they got lazy, or is it just me? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4373833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 The 2e cover was more about John Blanche's high heel fetish than anything else. If they're good enough for Primarchs and (male) Rogue Traders, I can accept them on a Blanche Sisters cover. Raging Hormones was never going to be the answer, and yes, I agree about the flash. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4373868 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 The 2e cover was more about John Blanche's high heel fetish than anything else. If they're good enough for Primarchs and (male) Rogue Traders, I can accept them on a Blanche Sisters cover. Raging Hormones was never going to be the answer, and yes, I agree about the flash. I agree about his heel fetish save for it was taken a step farther with the skin tight power armor. I'm not saying it looks bad and I can honestly overlook powerheels because of it but it doesn't make it what I look for in a Sisters model first. If GW puts heels on them I'd be surprised but I'd deal with it. But in the meantime I'll leave the +2 initiative heels to my Death Cult Assassins. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4373918 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I'm surprised about the amount of hate the RH models are getting. I mean yeah they are a little more stylized than GW's but that's due in part to them not being GW and also GW's sculpts being older than a good sized chunk of 40k's player base :lol: I mean I get them not fitting into your existing collection as being a reason for not jumping on them, but what other alternatives are there? Aside from using large male sculpts with female heads, there doesn't seem to be much out there. Also, anyone else thinking those wraithbone eske "wings" on the jump packs look like the flash is still on the resin and they got lazy, or is it just me? Those are 3D renders so there is no flash on them ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4373923 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I know one person who is using armored figures from another game with female heads to make something as close to Sisters as possible and due tonthem being more "heavilly armored humans" I actually like his method more than the RH design. That said just because it's the most prominent alternative doesn't make it the only choice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4373937 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 I know one person who is using armored figures from another game with female heads to make something as close to Sisters as possible and due tonthem being more "heavilly armored humans" I actually like his method more than the RH design. That said just because it's the most prominent alternative doesn't make it the only choice. I think one of the more popular options right now is to use the dreamforge heavy trooper minis along with the female heads from statuesque. It does end up costing you 4-5 bucks less than legit sisters and allows for way more poses on the models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4373994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of the Raven Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I know the sisters' current armor would kill them if they so much as tripped over their robes, but I hope Games Workshop keeps it. I like the looks of it (no, not in that way, you perverts) and realism was the first victim of the dark millenium anyway(along with truth, justice and pizza). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4376472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneTrueZon Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I think one of the more popular options right now is to use the dreamforge heavy trooper minis along with the female heads from statuesque. It does end up costing you 4-5 bucks less than legit sisters and allows for way more poses on the models. Even then, the Dreamforge sculpts are so much more stylistically akin to IG Scions / Stormtroopers (https://bitly.com/) or Solar Auxilia (http://bit.ly/240s4qm). I am by no means knocking those who have gone that route and the pics I've seen in this forum are awesome. I am just firmly of the camp that these, once properly modded, will go a lot further to having something that feels like the source material images that made this army look so awesome (and I threw this together in Photoshop in, like 5min just for illustration sake, by and by). http://i.imgur.com/JHntJWw.jpg http://samlib.ru/img/n/nikitin_m_a/the_main_threat/01.sabrina.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4376648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 I think one of the more popular options right now is to use the dreamforge heavy trooper minis along with the female heads from statuesque. It does end up costing you 4-5 bucks less than legit sisters and allows for way more poses on the models. Even then, the Dreamforge sculpts are so much more stylistically akin to IG Scions / Stormtroopers (https://bitly.com/) or Solar Auxilia (http://bit.ly/240s4qm). I am by no means knocking those who have gone that route and the pics I've seen in this forum are awesome. I am just firmly of the camp that these, once properly modded, will go a lot further to having something that feels like the source material images that made this army look so awesome (and I threw this together in Photoshop in, like 5min just for illustration sake, by and by). http://i.imgur.com/JHntJWw.jpg http://samlib.ru/img/n/nikitin_m_a/the_main_threat/01.sabrina.jpg I do massively prefer the style of the armor in normal sisters artwork. However the dreamforge stuff still gives a nice appearance of power armor while not being static posed and expensive/hard to find. I'll just have to wait for GW to get off their asses and make new sculpts/plastic models eventually :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4376652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted April 26, 2016 Share Posted April 26, 2016 The Dreamforge stuff is just the best "humans wearing powered armor" stuff for poxying into 40k IMO. With some female heads they make perfect Sisters, particularly these guys (it's the tabards that make it work): http://i.imgur.com/N48itiL.jpg That said, I've always been more partial to the idea that Sisters should look more like ornate walking tanks than wearing power armor that's thinner than the robes they wear under it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4376675 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 All of the valkir dreamforge stuff has the power armor and tabards. I find if you opt not to use the shoulder pads that they look more sleek as sisters should. Otherwise they have a bit of a varia suit look to them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4377027 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 All of the valkir dreamforge stuff has the power armor and tabards. I find if you opt not to use the shoulder pads that they look more sleek as sisters should. Otherwise they have a bit of a varia suit look to them.I can live with Varia suit, beats Stripper suit. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4377340 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 All of the valkir dreamforge stuff has the power armor and tabards. I find if you opt not to use the shoulder pads that they look more sleek as sisters should. Otherwise they have a bit of a varia suit look to them.I can live with Varia suit, beats Stripper suit. It just ends up making the heads look even more tiny. I'm not too keen on how it looks so I just dumped all the dreamforge shoulders into my bits bin :D Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4377642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 All of the valkir dreamforge stuff has the power armor and tabards. I find if you opt not to use the shoulder pads that they look more sleek as sisters should. Otherwise they have a bit of a varia suit look to them.I can live with Varia suit, beats Stripper suit. It just ends up making the heads look even more tiny. I'm not too keen on how it looks so I just dumped all the dreamforge shoulders into my bits bin :DThe heads aren't tiny, the armor is just massive. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4377649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted April 27, 2016 Share Posted April 27, 2016 All of the valkir dreamforge stuff has the power armor and tabards. I find if you opt not to use the shoulder pads that they look more sleek as sisters should. Otherwise they have a bit of a varia suit look to them.I can live with Varia suit, beats Stripper suit.It just ends up making the heads look even more tiny. I'm not too keen on how it looks so I just dumped all the dreamforge shoulders into my bits bin The heads aren't tiny, the armor is just massive. Pffft. They're only slightly taller than space marine models :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4377668 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Space Marines being like 7+ft tall without the armor? Yeah that works for me. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4378043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noeh Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Space Marines being like 7+ft tall without the armor? Yeah that works for me. Well model wise they are slightly taller...but a space marine model should actually be a torso and a head taller than it is to be proper scale. So they really aren't taller than a space marine :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4378063 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spacefrisian Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 1 look at the Rhino and you can see that proper scale isnt on GW mind. No way that you can put 10 marines in that, and a driver and posibly a guy using the stormbolter on top of it (thats 12 marines if you keep count) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4378234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 1 look at the Rhino and you can see that proper scale isnt on GW mind. No way that you can put 10 marines in that, and a driver and posibly a guy using the stormbolter on top of it (thats 12 marines if you keep count) Clearly the answer is the driver is a servitor, not a Space Marine. :P Seriously though, I think base sizes as more a representation of the space that model can effectively defend or control about their person more and the model just a representation of who owns that space. The base size changes really lend well to that mindset too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4378549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mard Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Pretty much all the GW vehicles are out of scale with the infantry, Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4378890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Furyou Miko Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 With the exception of the fliers, all of the vehicles are about four scales smaller than the infantry. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4378931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Servant of Dante Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 With the exception of the fliers, all of the vehicles are about four scales smaller than the infantry. This bugs me whenever I think about it. THERE IS JUST NO WAY TO SHOVE 10 SM MODELS INTO THE BACK OF THAT RHINO!!! Edit: I really don't have anything constructive to add to this discussion because I'm just not going to use non-GW models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4378998 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ficinus Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 That said, I've always been more partial to the idea that Sisters should look more like ornate walking tanks than wearing power armor that's thinner than the robes they wear under it. I've always thought that Witch Hunter Tyrus would provide a good model for how Sisters should look (only with a bob cut). His armor is amazingly ornate and looks hulking, with his out of proportion head. It would provide a good model for new Sisters. That said, the current models are pretty solid, with far better shoulder pads than the Astartes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4379137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grendal1989 Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 I've always thought that Witch Hunter Tyrus would provide a good model for how Sisters should look (only with a bob cut). His armor is amazingly ornate and looks hulking, with his out of proportion head. It would provide a good model for new Sisters. That said, the current models are pretty solid, with far better shoulder pads than the Astartes. Definitely dig the shoulder pads more. I need to try green stuff instant molding them. its done well with the Hydra emblems from the 30k Alpha legion rhino doors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321451-alternative-sisters/page/4/#findComment-4379407 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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