Damon Nightman Posted October 20, 2016 Author Share Posted October 20, 2016 Always remember to "shoot" (throw) grenades when in range. I used to always forget I could 3/4x melta and throw a grenade on one of the non melta guys. Depending on what he brings always screen your models as best you can do he has to shoot through your units. A 5+ cover save against gauss is better than nothing. If he brings lychstar don't try to crash into it unless you absolutely have to, work around it. Your dreads will auto force necron Warriors to use our weapons are useless, unless he wants to tar pit it until his wraiths or lychguard can move within striking range. Focus fire his wraiths with your dakka preds, T5 and 3++ aren't that scarey when you pump them full of mid strength weapons fire and force saves. Scarabs die in droves to template weapons, even though spyders can become annoying. Don't get discouraged by re-ans as that's just how the army plays, win through assault and weight of attacks. Always stay out of rapid fire range with tanks/dreads until you are fairly certain you can get the assault off, or screen your dreads with death company squads to give him the aformentioned cover save and then multi assault. Very good advice! Thank you DBH! Would you recommend keeping the DC in front of the vehicles as much as possible in general just to try and keep the gauss away? Also you think I should not drop pod the dreads in and keep them behind everything moving up? Dont-Be-Haten 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4538193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont-Be-Haten Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 It really depends because necrons are tricky. A 10 man gauss squad outside of rapid fire range on average usually causes 1 glancing hit right? So I would screen your tanks when you're up close becaus ehe only needs 4s to wound your death company, but 6s elsewhere, you want to screen your tanks and death company when you get up close, this can also be read as your tanks having mobile cover. So for instance you would want to screen your redeemer because Necrons don't care as much about AV14 as normally would and so you would want to obscure it from your opposition's models. You screen your dreads with Death company when in rapid fire range so you can multi-charge. Damon Nightman 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4538545 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 26, 2016 Author Share Posted October 26, 2016 (edited) Finally got my game in! It would have been devastating if I could roll well but I ended up just whiffing everything and fed him all my units... Still a very fun game! Those wraiths and lychguard? are brutal tarpits. Edit: I got first turn and got everything into position to burn/assault some filthy robots, but failed the charges and did not so great in the shooting phase... I killed two scarabs, immobilized a ghost ark removing 1 HP after hitting with 4 melta shots in melta range, and put a wound on a destroyer... and literally everything unloaded, flamestorm cannons included. Combination of my rolls and his on point reanimation protocols. His 5 wraiths took out a 7 DC and a Chap (with some help) and then went on to take out both dreads. I was down by 2 points when we had to call it by the end of turn 4. We ran out of time, but there really wasn't anything I could have done to come back at that point anyway. I've won the last 2 campaign games, so giving up this one isn't too bad. Next game is Apoc with 2.5k each player (if that counts as Apoc). No idea how many people are on each team, maybe only 4v4 or 6v6 at most. Anyone have any ideas as to what I can add to the above list to get it up to 2.5k? I may be limited in models, but I'm thinking add a IK of some sort and assemble that grav bike squad I have to go with a biker techmarine... Edited October 26, 2016 by Brother Lemartes Tyriks 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4544530 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 m0nolith's Praetor Conversion inspired me to finally do something with this guy The "crozius" is a placeholder. I kind of want to make him a DC chap with the relic armour, but also think he could maybe be my Astorath? I wouldn't have to replace the bolt pistol... CaptainHelion 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4546402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I would like this, but I can't. What would you give him instead of wings if it's Astorath? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4546483 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 28, 2016 Author Share Posted October 28, 2016 I'm going to give him a SG jump pack so I could give him wings... I'm leaning towards DC chap though. I think the armour is so unique it would be best used for the relic armour. I can use SG armour for an Astorath... Or maybe make the actual DC chap model my Astorath... So many options! Haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4546644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 I'm really tempted to make my actual Astorath a DC chaplain with the armor bane relic (or just a monster crozius, could be the gilded crozius, I guess) just so the model will actually see the tabletop more. If he didn't have such a dumb face that is impossible to fix I would buy a bunch to convert. As it is I might buy a second just for the wings. But I have been very unimpressed with Astorath on the tabletop. He does fine against stuff that doesn't want to be in an assault but not so well against things that do, and since DC don't have characters they can't soak challenges so he gets slapped around a lot in my games. Because of all that, I think not making him Astorath is probably better. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4547013 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) Yeah, I don't actually plan on using Astorath anytime soon, but I would need to cut this guys bolt pistol off for the DC chap, which really shouldn't be too hard. My other DC chap could easily count as having the relic armour too... whatever I'm just going to make this guy a DC chap. Astorath can sit out for now. I'll wait to do him until I'm a better painter, and maybe by that time he will have a new sweet model or rules. Now to decide on how to make a proper crozius for my chap here... Edited October 29, 2016 by Brother Lemartes Tyriks 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4547291 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Making a crozius is easy, but making a good one is tough, I find. Cutting pistols off isn't so bad as long as your knife is sharp, though. I'm excited to see what you come up with! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4547300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) I was thinking the same thing about the crozius! I want him to have an especially cool one too. It would be lame for him to have this sweet armour with a crappy looking weapon. I hope I can pull something off! I'm already thinking about what colors to go with too. I kind of want him to be gold or silver instead of white (my normal DC chap color) to signify he's got some special armour... I have Gold for Capts already so I'm leaning towards silver honestly... I've not done much silver yet, so I may revert back to gold if I'm not liking what I come up with. Edited October 29, 2016 by Brother Lemartes Tyriks and Arkangilos 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4547308 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyriks Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) You could blend the two... bone/white chased with gold (or silver) would look pretty damn sweet, I think! Edited October 29, 2016 by Tyriks Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4547315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) I think silver would be better of the options. Try moving the double blood drops up as high as you can to allow for the length of the Chainsword to show. That might actually do wonders by itself. Either way, I'm loving the way the model looks, and I think no matter what you do it will be epic. +edited, went too in depth with the suggestions, sorry+ Edited October 29, 2016 by Arkangilos Damon Nightman 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4547364 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 No worries man, feel free to go in depth! Now I'm curious what it was haha. And thank you! I'll try that with the crozius! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4547593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 (edited) Basically I was going to suggest to do the under armor (the Mk 2 segments) in your standard chaplain color (white). Then, do the up armored (mk 3 sections) in Leadbelcher with a complete wash of nuln oil, then highlighted in a bright silver. Do the entirety of the death mask in a bright silver (so it is brighter than the armor), and do the trimmings (such as the extra details, etc.) in a bright silver as well. So, for the death mask, if you have stormhost silver, I would base with that and then highlight with runefang silver. Maybe. Edited October 29, 2016 by Arkangilos Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4547728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 29, 2016 Author Share Posted October 29, 2016 I thought storm host was brighter than runefang? But yeah I was thinking basically the same thing actually haha Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4547772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted October 29, 2016 Share Posted October 29, 2016 Oh, if it is brighter than do it the other way around, lol. I was just going off the pictures so I'm not entirely sure which is brighter. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4547776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) Update: think the crozius may be a tiny bit off center still, but I'm pretty happy so far. Edited October 31, 2016 by Brother Lemartes Arkangilos 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4548731 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 (edited) another update! I think i have everything where I want it for the most part! Not sure if i should mess with the angle of how he is swinging the crozius. Like how he is holding it is a bit more tilted from what I was expecting, but I still think it works...Any suggestions as to what color to paint the shoulder pads if the main armor is silver? Gold? Silver still? Black? White? Edited October 31, 2016 by Brother Lemartes Arkangilos 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4548742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolchiate Remembrancer Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I feel like he should be pointing the crozius towards the enemy he's spotting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4549041 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 You mean so the crozius is more parallel to the ground? Right now it's def a little funky, but I think it still looks like he's about to knee cap somebody with the crozius... Maybe? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4549149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkangilos Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I think he means rather than swinging it, he should be pointing straight at the enemy with it, so it's more like a challenge or call to charge than a swing. I think that would look awesome, but I think it looks good either way. Dolchiate Remembrancer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4549162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 I may have to search for another arm to try that out... Thanks guys! Dolchiate Remembrancer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4549184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 I think the pose is pretty cool as you have it, but maybe tilting the crozius so it's slightly more horizontal as you said would be good. Damon Nightman 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4549721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted October 31, 2016 Author Share Posted October 31, 2016 So I think I applied too much glue to reposition the crozius... Unless I want to cut it off again, which I really don't want to do... It is really pushing it how it is now, but I think it's passable? Obviously not ideal... Maybe I'll feel like dicing it up a bit later and fix it Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4549773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LutherMax Posted October 31, 2016 Share Posted October 31, 2016 Nah I think it looks good. Moving it is only something I'd try 'just to see' if it weren't already glued on. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/321752-the-blood-revenants-wip-1k-list-help/page/9/#findComment-4549782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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