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This took so much longer than I thought it would, especially since I wanted to record my thought process for each part of this adaptation.

 

If you are unaware, Helena the Virtuous, Prioress of the Convent Sanctorum is a Special Character in the 2E 'dex. I have attempted a faithful adaptation of her rules to seventh, and it was a lot more tricky than I thought it would be.

 

I would really appreciate any insight from those of you who have actually played second edition.

 

The following is also available in Word document form here.

 

I haven't done points costs yet.

 

Helena the Virtuous, Prioress of the Convent Sanctorum

Helena the Virtuous is a HQ choice in any Adepta Sororitas detachment. A detachment that includes Helena may and must include a Sororitas Command Squad, even if it does not also include a Cononess. Helena must be deployed with the Command Squad, or, if they are held in reserves, enter from reserves attached to the Command Squad. She may not leave the unit as long as at least one of its number remains.

 

WS4 BS4 S3 T3 W3 I3 A3 Ld10 Sv3+

 

Wargear:

·   Power armour

·   Boltgun

·   Rosarius

·   Frag grenades

·   Krak grenades

 

Ecclesiarchy Relics:

·   Mantle of Ophelia

·   Rod of Grace

 

Warlord Trait:

·   Holy Radiance

 

Special Rules:

·   Act of Faith

·   Fearless

·   Independent Character

·   Martyrdom

·   Revered Leader

·   Sacred Rites

·   Shield of Faith

 

Act of Faith:

·   Grace Through Virtue

 

ECCLESIARCHY RELICS

Mantle of Ophelia: Helena’s robes of office incorporate the ancient cloak known simply as the Mantle of Ophelia. The Mantle is a badge of office for the Prioress of the Convent Sanctorum and is believed to have sacred powers of protection.

The wearer of the Mantle of Ophelia has the Eternal Warrior special rule. As this relic is also listed with the other Ecclesiarchy Relics in the Adepta Sororitas Wargear List, it should be noted that if your army includes Helena the Virtuous, no other model in your army may take the Mantle of Ophelia Ecclesiarchy Relic.

 

Rod of Grace: Using similar technology to a Space Marine Chaplain’s Crozius Arcanum, the Rod of Grace is covered with a shimmering field of force. However, this field is much more powerful and can be focused into a beam to strike at a distance.

The Rod of Grace may be used in both the Shooting phase and the Assault phase, and has a separate profile for each of these phases.

 

Shooting: Range 6"  S 6  AP 2  Type: Assault 1, Smite the Impure

Assault: Range -  S +3  AP 2  Type: Melee, Concussive, Smite the Impure

 

Smite the Impure: Any To Wound rolls of 6 made with this weapon have the Instant Death special rule.

 

WARLORD TRAIT

Holy Radiance: It is claimed that Helena the Virtuous shines with the loght of the Emperor. It is true that she radiates an aura of calm and courage, and her words reach into the soul of those who hear them.

Any friendly Armies of the Imperium units that are falling back and are within 12” of Helena at the beginning of your Movement phase automatically Regoup, regardless of whether they would normally be able to do so (such as units with less than 25% of their original number remaining). Additionally, friendly units that can draw line of sight to Helena may use her Leadership value in place of their own.

SPECIAL RULES

Revered Leader: The troops following Helena hold her in such high regard that they are likely to go to any length to ensure not harm befalls her.

The first time in a battle that Helena suffers one or more unsaved Wounds, all other models in her Detachment gain the Hatred special rule. This lasts for the rest of the battle, even if Helena has been removed as a casualty. If Helena is removed as a casualty, each unit in her detachment must immediately pass a Morale check or begin falling back. Those units which pass this Morale check automatically pass any further Morale checks that they take during the remainder of the battle.

 

 

Sacred Rites: While Helena is alive, all units besides Helena and her unit add one to their Leadership when taking Act of Faith Leadership test, to a maximum of 10.

 

ACT OF FAITH

Grace Through Virtue: One use only. This Act of Faith can be used either in your Shooting phase or in either player’s Assault phase. When it is successfully used, choose one of the options below.

 

·   All models in Helena’s unit gain the Preferred Enemy special rule until the end of the turn.

·   All weapons in Helena’s unit gain the Shred special rule until the end of the turn.

·   All weapons in Helena’s unit gain the Ignores Cover special rule until the end of the turn.

·   All weapons in Helena’s unit gain the Rending special rule until the end of the turn.

·   All models in Helena’s unit gain the Hatred special rule until the end of the turn.

·   All models in Helena’s unit gain the Fleet, Crusader, and Move Through Cover special rules until the end of the turn.

·   All models in Helena’s unit gain the Preferred Enemy special rule until the end of the turn.

·   All models in Helena’s unit gain the Furious Charge special rule until the end of the turn.

·   All models in Helena’s unit gain the Feel No Pain (3+) special rule until the end of the turn.

 

 

NOTES

The Warhammer 40,000 2nd Edition BattleBible, a fan-made compilation of second edition rules that can be found on the web, was used for reference throughout this process.

 

Flavor Text: Any flavor text included, such as the descriptions of Helena’s relics, is directly copied from Helena’s entry in the second edition Codex: Sisters of Battle and is italicized.

 

Italicized Ruled Above Profile: The second edition codex only allows Helena to be included as “your army commander,” and stipulates that she must have a unit of bodyguards. Therefore, Helena must be your Warlord. The Sororitas Command Squad is essentially what the second edition Bodyguard unit is, but is not normally required to stay with your Warlord. In this case, Helena requires you to take a Sororitas Command Squad, which she must stay with as long as they are alive. I have given her the Independent Character rule so that she may join another unit if and only if her Command Squad is killed, as lone characters are much less likely to survive in seventh edition than in second edition, as far as I can tell.

 

Profile: Adapted with reference to Helena’s second edition profile, and the current and second edition profiles for the Canoness. The Canoness profiles where used as a baseline for how Sisters’ profiles have changed. Referenced profiles are listed below. Movement values have been omitted from the second edition profiles, as they are irrelevant.

 

Helena (2E) WS5 BS5 S4 T4 W3 I5 A3 Ld10 Sv3+

Canoness (current) WS5 BS5 S3 T3 W3 I4 A3 Ld10 Sv3+

Canoness (2E) WS6 BS7 S4 T5 W3 I7 A3 Ld10 Sv3+

 

Wargear: Targeter and Purity Seal dropped as they no longer have any rules context. Krak grenades added as they are standard for all Sisters in modern editions.

 

Ecclesiarchy Relics: The Mantle of Ophelia uses the current codex’s rules for it, not the original ones from second edition. Although it’s rules are spelled out, other characters have been excluded from taking the Mantle of Ophelia from the Ecclesiarchy Relics Wargear list. The Rod of Grace has been formatted with two profiles, like The Ardent Blade. Its profile was especially difficult to determine, so it is described in detail below.

Rod of Grace: Note: I have attempted to be utterly faithful to the original rules for this relic, but as I look at what I have come up with, I realize that this weapon is quite powerful. I do not have a problem with this; Helena is an important character, and some of her weapon’s power is mitigated by her relatively poor profile (unit profile, that is – I know, bad pun, but it was right there).

Range (Shooting): I could not find the rules for weapon ranges in second edition. The listed range is 0-6 for short range, and a dash for long range. For the time being I have set the range at 6”.

Strength (Shooting): As Toughness values seem to have changed little since second edition, and a boltgun has a Strength of 4 in both second and seventh edition, the Rod of Grace’s Strength of 6 has been copied directly into its Shooting profile.

Strength (Assault): The second edition power axe (one-handed), power mace, power maul, and power sword all have a Strength of 5. The power axe (two-handed) and power scourge have a Strength of 6. The power fist and chainfist have Strenths of 8 and 10 respectively. The Rod of Grace has a Strength of 6. These variances are utterly inconsistent with the relative strength bonuses provided by power weapons in seventh edition (eg. a power sword and a power maul have the same Strength in second edition, while they have user Strength and +2 Strength respectively in seventh edition). The Rod of Grace’s flavor text compares it to a Crozius Arcanum, which is of course a Maser-Crafted power maul in seventh edition. As the Rod of Grace is primarily comparable to a power maul, and has one more Strength than that weapon in second edition, I have set its Assault profile Strength at +3.

AP (both profiles): The Rod of Grace has a single Save Mod (-4) for both Shooting and Assault, so the AP values for its profiles are the same. All generic second edition power weapons have worse Save Mods than the Rod of Grace, except for the power fist and chainfist, which are both better. For this reason, I have set the Rod of Grace’s AP to 2.

Type (Shooting): Charges are handled in much the same way in second edition as in WFB, in that they are declared in the Movement phase, and preclude a unit from firing in the Shooting phase. Furthermore, weapon types do not list numbers of shots, but I think it is clear that the Rod of Grace should only fire a single shot. Due to the Rod of Grace’s short range and primary function as a close combat weapon, its Shooting profile Type lists it as an Assault 1 weapon.

Type (Assault): Of course, the Rod of Grace’s Assault profile lists it as a Melee weapon. Since the Rod of Grace is much like a Power Maul, I have included the Concussive rule.

Type (both profiles): I could not find the rules for how to handle the Damage stat for a weapon in second edition, but I do have the WFB third edition rulebook, and that set of rules has a model lose a number of wounds equal to the weapon’s Damage stat whenever they take an unsaved wound from a weapon (so a model taking an unsaved wound from a weapon with Damage of D3 would lose D3 wounds). Assuming second edition uses this same mechanic for weapon Damage, there is no direct way to translate this value into seventh edition. Looking through the second edition weapon profiles, it is apparent that the vast majority of weapons have a Damage value of 1. Since the Rod of Grace has a Damage value of D3, I am comfortable with giving both of its profiles a rule which gives it the Instant Death special rule on To Wound rolls of 6. Since every weapon that does this seems to have a different name for it, I have called it Smite the Impure.

 

Warlord Trait: Adapted from Helena’s Holy Radiance special rule from second edition. Her immunity to psychology and Break tests has been represented by the Fearless special rule. Even though the inability to Go to Ground and choose to fail Morale checks due to the Our Weapons Are Useless rule do not fit the original effect of immunity to psychology, Fearless seems to be the most fitting option available. The Holy Radiance second edition rule seems to imply that it is normal for all units to use Helena’s Leadership. I cannot find any rules that support this, but in any case, the original effect of this section of the rule has simply been carried over into this adaptation. Personally, I have come concerns that this is more powerful than Celestine’s Leadership sharing ability when I’m not sure it should be, but my primary goal is to preserve as much of the rules’ original function as possible.

 

Special Rules: Added Act of Faith and Shield of Faith as they are now standard for Sisters. Added Martyrdom as it is now standard for Canonesses and Celestine. As noted above, the Fearless special rule has been added because of the immunity to psychology and Break tests granted by the original version of the Holy Radiance special rule. As strategy ratings are no longer used, Helena’s strategy rating of 4 has been ignored. For ease of reading, the Revered Leader and Sacred Rites special rules are described below.

Revered Leader: This rule is unclear as to whether the Hatred gained when Helena is wounded ends if Helena is killed. Since the rules say the models gain Hatred, but never specifically mention losing Hatred, I have made the effect last for the remainder of the battle. Although I cannot find where this rule is, the Revered Leader rule implies that units always take a Leadership test when their army’s leader is killed. In any case, I have carried over this Leadership test, even if it does not exist naturally as it seems to have in second edition, adding in the penalty that those units that fail immediately begin to fall back, as I assume that this is how it worksin second edition. Break tests have been assumed to be equivalent to Morale checks.

Sacred Rites: Helena’s bonus to her unit’s roll on the Sacred Rites table has been taken into account in her Act of Faith. This special rule deals solely with approximating the +1 bonus she confers on other units. I have decided to have the effect end if Helena is killed, even though there is no real reason for this in the second edition wording. It simply matches much of Games Workshop’s current rules design philosophy, and just feels right.

 

Act of Faith: Since the Sacred Rites table in second edition is shared by all Sisters of Battle units, and Helena gets a +4 bonus when rolling on that table, it seemed an elegant solution to give her access to other unit’s Acts of Faith for her own. These Acts of Faith are spelled out for clarity and ease of play. I did not distinguish between options that are normally only usable in your Assault phase and those that may be used in either Assault phase, since those that you are not allowed to use in your opponent’s Assault phase are not useful then.

 

Points Cost: I consider the points cost the most difficult piece of any datasheet. I’m going to hold off on even trying to assign a points cost for the moment.

 

Thanks to anyone who actually read all of that (or really, anyone who read any of it)!

 

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I like it, but wonder if someone so important to the Sisters would have artificer type armor.

Probably. I'll check if artificer armour was a thing in 2E. In any case, I'd prefer not to flat out add something like that.

 

Also, remember that Helena is in charge of the orders non-militant on Ophelia VII . . .

 

Wait, is she? Well, I think that the Adepta Sororitas organizational chart in the 2E book suggests she is, since it just says that the Prioress is in charge of the whole convent and lists the orders mom militant as part of the convent.

 

The point is she's not simply a sister Militant. The MoO is a symbol of office, and I would assume the Rod of Grace is as well.

 

That being said, she probably should have artificer armour, I'm just not sure I can justify it in any better way than "I just think she should have it" which isn't good enough since I am trying to do a faithful adaptation.

 

Thanks for the comment!

It might be a bit odd, but here is my opinion on Sisters and Artificer Armour, which isn't specific to just this character.

 

Instead of Artificer Armour (great works of art by gifted idividuals trained by the Mechanicum, as far as my fluff-knowlage goes), I'd rather see Sisters getting 2+ Armour Saves from armour, that is laden with the deeds and devotion of revered predecessors, which shows its additional protection over a regular Sisters' Power Armour only in combination with the faith of the wearer, which in turn should be rather exceptional, hence her worthiness of being granted such an exalted piece of armour.

 

So rules wise there is no difference whatsoever, it's armour granting a 2+ save, but concering fluff, I think it sits better with the faithfulness of the Sisterhood and the general discrepancy in beliefs between Ecclesiarchy and Mechanicum.

It might be a bit odd, but here is my opinion on Sisters and Artificer Armour, which isn't specific to just this character.

 

Instead of Artificer Armour (great works of art by gifted idividuals trained by the Mechanicum, as far as my fluff-knowlage goes), I'd rather see Sisters getting 2+ Armour Saves from armour, that is laden with the deeds and devotion of revered predecessors, which shows its additional protection over a regular Sisters' Power Armour only in combination with the faith of the wearer, which in turn should be rather exceptional, hence her worthiness of being granted such an exalted piece of armour.

 

So rules wise there is no difference whatsoever, it's armour granting a 2+ save, but concering fluff, I think it sits better with the faithfulness of the Sisterhood and the general discrepancy in beliefs between Ecclesiarchy and Mechanicum.

Excellent! I love it!

 

Ave Imperator!

It might be a bit odd, but here is my opinion on Sisters and Artificer Armour, which isn't specific to just this character.

 

Instead of Artificer Armour (great works of art by gifted idividuals trained by the Mechanicum, as far as my fluff-knowlage goes), I'd rather see Sisters getting 2+ Armour Saves from armour, that is laden with the deeds and devotion of revered predecessors, which shows its additional protection over a regular Sisters' Power Armour only in combination with the faith of the wearer, which in turn should be rather exceptional, hence her worthiness of being granted such an exalted piece of armour.

 

So rules wise there is no difference whatsoever, it's armour granting a 2+ save, but concering fluff, I think it sits better with the faithfulness of the Sisterhood and the general discrepancy in beliefs between Ecclesiarchy and Mechanicum.

Does this mean a Sister can expend a Faith Point to improve her Armor Save? It makes sense if this ability is an Act of Faith- otherwise, it should be a regular upgrade, for which a Sister should pay an appropriate Points Value. (If a Sister pays no price for the improved Armor Save, then it unbalances the game.)

Does this mean a Sister can expend a Faith Point to improve her Armor Save? It makes sense if this ability is an Act of Faith- otherwise, it should be a regular upgrade, for which a Sister should pay an appropriate Points Value. (If a Sister pays no price for the improved Armor Save, then it unbalances the game.)

The point was to give Helena (or any other Special Sister Character) a 2+ Amrour Save without calling it Artificer Armour. That's pure Fluff, no Acts of Faith or 3E Faith Points involved.

 

I did once write a self made Codex in which I had a unique Sister Pronatus character, who'd bring along a few sets of such revered relic armour, to make one Celestian Command Squad into an all 2+ armour save unit, but that's beside the point of this thread, I think.

I would think that it would be better for her to be able to choose from all of the current acts of faith, instead of having a new one that sorta does just that.

 

She should also have the chance to do 2 acts during the game.

The problem is that as written that wouldn't work. For example, the Retributor's AoF specifically mentions Retributors. It reduces page turning to have it all written out.

 

And I'm pretty sure it does exactly what the other AoFs do, not just sorta. Please point out any typos.

 

I would not be opposed to having her do 2 AoFs per game.

 

Thanks for the response!

Page turning? Isn't there a list of all of the acts of faith on the reference sheet?

 

And I never argued for not including the acts on her entry. This is just about the name.

 

I'm just asking why it needs to be a new name for what is just a combination of all the other acts of faith? What value does it bring to insist on this act having a unique name?

 

The only difference between our POV is you want to decide which act to perform after you know it is successful, whereas every other act requires you to declare what you are attempting before you attempt it.

 

It is easy to explain the typo... Because you just told me... You changed the rule to remove the restrictive language that would otherwise prevent your new character from using the act. So yes it is sorta like the other acts, just without the restrictive language on who can do it.

 

Now you claim that this wouldn't work because the individual act, which are currently only available to one specific unit, name that specific unit within the rule, thus preventing other units from using the act. Ok, well to add this character you would need an errata or update to the codex, so wouldn't it be possible to remove the restrictive language at the same time?

 

Also what happens if GW wants to change how an Act works? Wouldn't it be simpler to just change the one act, and not have to also change the relevant part of this act as well?

 

Yeah the 2 acts per game really ties into how her rules worked back then. She could score a 10 on the rites of battle, which only had 9 choices, and if she did roll a 10 she got to roll 2 times on the chart.

Page turning? Isn't there a list of all of the acts of faith on the reference sheet?

 

And I never argued for not including the acts on her entry. This is just about the name.

 

I'm just asking why it needs to be a new name for what is just a combination of all the other acts of faith? What value does it bring to insist on this act having a unique name?

 

The only difference between our POV is you want to decide which act to perform after you know it is successful, whereas every other act requires you to declare what you are attempting before you attempt it.

 

It is easy to explain the typo... Because you just told me... You changed the rule to remove the restrictive language that would otherwise prevent your new character from using the act. So yes it is sorta like the other acts, just without the restrictive language on who can do it.

 

Now you claim that this wouldn't work because the individual act, which are currently only available to one specific unit, name that specific unit within the rule, thus preventing other units from using the act. Ok, well to add this character you would need an errata or update to the codex, so wouldn't it be possible to remove the restrictive language at the same time?

 

Also what happens if GW wants to change how an Act works? Wouldn't it be simpler to just change the one act, and not have to also change the relevant part of this act as well?

 

Yeah the 2 acts per game really ties into how her rules worked back then. She could score a 10 on the rites of battle, which only had 9 choices, and if she did roll a 10 she got to roll 2 times on the chart.

OK. I understand you point on her AoF. 

 

My reasoning is that I cannot issue an errata for the codex as it stands, since I am not GW. I wish to simply add Helena to the codex, so I have to write out her AoF. I shall see about rewriting Helena's AoF to do what you suggest without requiring an Errata. I will of course not allow her to use Celestine's AoF.

 

I have the iBook enhanced version, and I do not think there is a list of the Acts of Faith in the Reference section in the version I have, so I would have to go from unit to unit clicking on their AoF to have it show me how each one works. Of course, I already know what they all are, so in reality it makes no difference to me, but that is why I said page turning.

i have the ePub and use armybuilder. I know between the two of them I have a short lists of the acts of faith.

 

I know you can't do an FAQ. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get GW to make this official.

 

All we really need is a current model that can count as Helena, preferably out of the box. GW shouldn't have an issue with adding this to the codex and changing the price of an existing model to character price.

i have the ePub and use armybuilder. I know between the two of them I have a short lists of the acts of faith.

 

I know you can't do an FAQ. But that doesn't mean we shouldn't try to get GW to make this official.

 

All we really need is a current model that can count as Helena, preferably out of the box. GW shouldn't have an issue with adding this to the codex and changing the price of an existing model to character price.

Hum. I never thought of this as more than idle entertainment on my part, but OK. 

 

What model would you suggest? The current Canoness honestly looks like she is wearing the Mantle of Ophelia, but that model does not come with a bolter, and I don't know of anything that looks like the Rod of Grace.

 

I may mail this to GW at some point anyhow, just for the lols.

Back in second edition I picked up the High Elf Everqueen and her body guard with the plan to make them into Helena and a body guard with guardian spears.

She isn't exactly right... and not even close to WYSIWYG.... and the new Everqueen model (super sweet looking) is even further away form WYSIWYG.

 

From what I remember of the old SoB book, both Helena and Praxidis essentially used the same model... a model that didn't really match either of them.   It was the sister superior model with the mace, but the boltgun was a combi-grenade launcher, you know back when we could have those.  The option was that or 1 of the other 2 sister superior models, both of which had swords.  Unless you went with one of the fantasy lines and glued a bolter on to a sorceress.

 

I think we have some options as far as existing GW models, but nothing good among the currently available from the webstore.

I have only to add, that was a great piece of work you did, Emperor be praised! Very appreciated too, taking something that most of us were not aware of (removed HQ options) and bringing up to date. Thank you, GW approved and adopted or not.

I have only to add, that was a great piece of work you did, Emperor be praised! Very appreciated too, taking something that most of us were not aware of (removed HQ options) and bringing up to date. Thank you, GW approved and adopted or not.

It was truly my pleasure, even more so now that I know people appreciate it. happy.png

I have only to add, that was a great piece of work you did, Emperor be praised! Very appreciated too, taking something that most of us were not aware of (removed HQ options) and bringing up to date. Thank you, GW approved and adopted or not.

It was truly my pleasure, even more so now that I know people appreciate it. happy.png

I hope my comments didn't come across as though I didn't like it.

I know I tend to look at things with a critical eye, and make suggestions for revision before I even discover if that is what the author is looking for.

That tends to make me look like a jerk sometime... but I try to keep it constructive and I try to give the advice I would want to receive.

So please know that I do appreciate that you did this.

I have only to add, that was a great piece of work you did, Emperor be praised! Very appreciated too, taking something that most of us were not aware of (removed HQ options) and bringing up to date. Thank you, GW approved and adopted or not.

It was truly my pleasure, even more so now that I know people appreciate it. happy.png

I hope my comments didn't come across as though I didn't like it.

I know I tend to look at things with a critical eye, and make suggestions for revision before I even discover if that is what the author is looking for.

That tends to make me look like a jerk sometime... but I try to keep it constructive and I try to give the advice I would want to receive.

So please know that I do appreciate that you did this.

Oh, I think the fact that you bothered to comment at all shows that you are interested! Thanks though.

 

From what I remember of the old SoB book, both Helena and Praxidis essentially used the same model... a model that didn't really match either of them.   It was the sister superior model with the mace, but the boltgun was a combi-grenade launcher, you know back when we could have those.  The option was that or 1 of the other 2 sister superior models, both of which had swords.  Unless you went with one of the fantasy lines and glued a bolter on to a sorceress.

 

Both Helena and Praxedes had official kitbashes in Citadel Journal 49 - Praxedes did use the weapon from the mace superior but it was on a multi-melta body, using the head from Bertha Bestraufrung. Helena used the heavy bolter sister with the a head from a mordheim matriarch.

 

 

For those without access to the journal their 3rd edition (pre codex WH) profiles were :

 

Helena, 120pts

WS4, BS4, S3, T3, W2, I3, A3, Ld10, Sv3+

MC bolter, frags, rod of grace(power weapon), rosarius, purity seals, mantle of ophelia(eternal warrior)

Compulsory bodyguard

+3 faith, losing -d6 faith if killed.

12" aura of automatic regrouping

 

Praxedes, 130pts

WS5, BS5, S3, T3, W3, I4, A3, Ld10, Sv2+

Boltgun, meltabombs, frags, scepter of vengeance(as thunder hammer), purity seals, cloak of saint aspira(accounting for the 2+ save)

+3 faith

12" leadership aura for moral and pinning

+1 to her strength on the turn that she charges, applied after her strength is doubled for the thunderhammer.

 

 

By the standards of 3rd edition Praxedes was quite the beatstick for anyone not bringing a jump canoness - she'd blow straight through marine HQs with faith powers up.

From what I remember of the old SoB book, both Helena and Praxidis essentially used the same model... a model that didn't really match either of them. It was the sister superior model with the mace, but the boltgun was a combi-grenade launcher, you know back when we could have those. The option was that or 1 of the other 2 sister superior models, both of which had swords. Unless you went with one of the fantasy lines and glued a bolter on to a sorceress.

Both Helena and Praxedes had official kitbashes in Citadel Journal 49 - Praxedes did use the weapon from the mace superior but it was on a multi-melta body, using the head from Bertha Bestraufrung. Helena used the heavy bolter sister with the a head from a mordheim matriarch.

For those without access to the journal their 3rd edition (pre codex WH) profiles were :

Helena, 120pts

WS4, BS4, S3, T3, W2, I3, A3, Ld10, Sv3+

MC bolter, frags, rod of grace(power weapon), rosarius, purity seals, mantle of ophelia(eternal warrior)

Compulsory bodyguard

+3 faith, losing -d6 faith if killed.

12" aura of automatic regrouping

Praxedes, 130pts

WS5, BS5, S3, T3, W3, I4, A3, Ld10, Sv2+

Boltgun, meltabombs, frags, scepter of vengeance(as thunder hammer), purity seals, cloak of saint aspira(accounting for the 2+ save)

+3 faith

12" leadership aura for moral and pinning

+1 to her strength on the turn that she charges, applied after her strength is doubled for the thunderhammer.

By the standards of 3rd edition Praxedes was quite the beatstick for anyone not bringing a jump canoness - she'd blow straight through marine HQs with faith powers up.

censored.gif I forgot to look at that 3E WD 'dex when I made this! I even have a physical copy of the thing in one of the Chapter Approved annual compolations! GAH! I had intended to make this an adaptation of Helena's most recent rules. wallbash.gif

On the other hand, with how parred down the 3E rules where, I guess what I have done is much more characterful. If I find I have the time, I may do an adaptation of 2E Praxedes, if anyone's interested.

. . . I do have other 40K projects I should see to, but this is just so much fun!

censored.gif I forgot to look at that 3E WD 'dex when I made this! I even have a physical copy of the thing in one of the Chapter Approved annual compolations! GAH! I had intended to make this an adaptation of Helena's most recent rules. wallbash.gif

You wouldn't have found her in chapter approved anyway IIRC. I think the named characters only appeared in Citadel Journal 49 along with the hereticus strike force and the old repentia rules.

censored.gif I forgot to look at that 3E WD 'dex when I made this! I even have a physical copy of the thing in one of the Chapter Approved annual compolations! GAH! I had intended to make this an adaptation of Helena's most recent rules. wallbash.gif

You wouldn't have found her in chapter approved anyway IIRC. I think the named characters only appeared in Citadel Journal 49 along with the hereticus strike force and the old repentia rules.

Oh, well, I have that in PDF form (I think). If not I have at least looked at it before.

In either case, the 2E rules provide a much richer and more challenging base for rules conversion.

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