Marshal Rohr Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Yarant was a big armor and Titan battle, due to it being originally written about for Epic. It should be the only showing of the space wolves en masse on the ground fighting conventionally, which will be cool because we always see them doing interface assaults (prospero) or zone mortalis (Wolf King). I'm definitely looking forward to some Viking Blitzkrieg action because those are two of my favorite things. Like how sick would it be to read about space wolf armored divisions taking down titans? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4577782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Yarant was a big armor and Titan battle, due to it being originally written about for Epic. It should be the only showing of the space wolves en masse on the ground fighting conventionally, which will be cool because we always see them doing interface assaults (prospero) or zone mortalis (Wolf King). I'm definitely looking forward to some Viking Blitzkrieg action because those are two of my favorite things. Like how sick would it be to read about space wolf armored divisions taking down titans? And dying in droves ;) The point is - Gav Thorpe already has shown us the end result in Weregeld, where everything (armor, Titans) are already lost. Only Space Marines remains for the Wolves. But 'Wolf Cull' should definitely start with something of a armada strike, then land armor/Titan engagement (then wolves run) at Yarant and then finish with arrival of Corax. Something like that Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4577790 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I think my distancing myself from anything not written by ADB has kind of messed up my understanding of where the hell we are in the timeline. Before PoD and MoM I read Pharos, what has come out since then? If we are already on novellas and shorts about Yarant we are like months away from the Siege. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4577797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 So another "the Wolves get slaughtered and need to be saved by somebody else" story? Oh joy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4577839 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopkins Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 So another "the Wolves get slaughtered and need to be saved by somebody else" story? Oh joy. well, they have upset a fair few folk, so the traitors are queuing up to have a pop at them Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4577844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 It was more even in AT with everybody getting their teeth kicked in, but apparently Graham 'Let No Story Go Without A Red Wedding' McNeill wanted to make it a big to do with Russ and Horus. Personally, I think the FW coverage of it will give me my sweet, sweet 'what would the world be like if Vikings had the t-34' fantasy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4577845 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 So another "the Wolves get slaughtered and need to be saved by somebody else" story? Oh joy. Actually yes. They are even in more miserable state then Corax arrive at Weregeld then Corax was after Istvaan, lol. I think my distancing myself from anything not written by ADB has kind of messed up my understanding of where the hell we are in the timeline. Before PoD and MoM I read Pharos, what has come out since then? If we are already on novellas and shorts about Yarant we are like months away from the Siege. Actually no, you know how HH works. Corax saved the Wolves at Yarant - but we are getting the book how they get where after - Horus Heresy should be milked up to the bottoms ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4577873 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tymell Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I think my distancing myself from anything not written by ADB has kind of messed up my understanding of where the hell we are in the timeline. Before PoD and MoM I read Pharos, what has come out since then? If we are already on novellas and shorts about Yarant we are like months away from the Siege. The only other new novel to come out since then is Path of Heaven. Also Corax, but most of that we'd already seen. Within the timeline, we're around year 31,011/31,012, with the Siege in 31,014. As it has been since the start, there's always some fluidity in the releases (things not coming out in a strict chronological order I mean), but by my own timeline notes I think Pharos takes place in late 31,010/early 31,011, Praetorian of Dorn in 31,011, and Weregeld in early 31,012. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4577958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever see the Wolves do something successfully... Nearly every story they've appeared in has them relying on an outside force to win or getting slaughtered It's almost as if the writers are trying to get the Worf renamed as the Russ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4577959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever see the Wolves do something successfully... Nearly every story they've appeared in has them relying on an outside force to win or getting slaughtered It's almost as if the writers are trying to get the Worf renamed as the Russ Good comparison. But after undestructible plot armor of 40K that's what space dogs deserve Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4577973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever see the Wolves do something successfully... Nearly every story they've appeared in has them relying on an outside force to win or getting slaughtered It's almost as if the writers are trying to get the Worf renamed as the Russ Good comparison. But after undestructible plot armor of 40K that's what space dogs deserve Please read Ragnar Blackmane amd Emperor's Gift and then get back to me about plot armor. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4578004 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Or even Legends of the Dark Millennium: Space Wolves, where Krom Dragongaze gets captured by Dark Eldar, has most of his veterans slaughtered for entertainment in Commorragh, Wolves fall in droves to Thousand Sons and daemons and have to be saved by the 13th. Or basically anything Horus Heresy, where the Wolves fans frequently lament that their Legion isn't winning anything really and constantly gets decimated, with Russ being comatose by the end of the Heresy. Or Battle of the Fang where the Thousand Sons are invading the Fang itself and barely managed to fend off Magnus. Or or or... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4578017 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 I think that has more to do with thunderwolves and santa's sleigh than any story written. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4578045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted November 30, 2016 Share Posted November 30, 2016 Or even Legends of the Dark Millennium: Space Wolves, where Krom Dragongaze gets captured by Dark Eldar, has most of his veterans slaughtered for entertainment in Commorragh, Wolves fall in droves to Thousand Sons and daemons and have to be saved by the 13th. Or basically anything Horus Heresy, where the Wolves fans frequently lament that their Legion isn't winning anything really and constantly gets decimated, with Russ being comatose by the end of the Heresy. Or Battle of the Fang where the Thousand Sons are invading the Fang itself and barely managed to fend off Magnus. Or or or... Hope that not sarcasm. I wish we had half as good treatment the DA's got in Angel's of Caliban. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4578414 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkChaplain Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 At least you don't have to see half your Legion rebel against your Primarch, then lose most of what remains in a bombastic battle that rips your home planet apart, and casts potential traitors into the warp to reappear sometime in the future and rally the traitor legions against you. Even the novels that are linked to Angels of Caliban, the Chapter takes magnificent losses thanks to Astelan and co's machinations, including a good chunk of the Deathwing and Ravenwing. I don't think either of the Space Wolves or Dark Angels gets off lightly in the grand scheme of things. At least the Wolves can still count upon one another's loyalty to Russ. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4578813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 I'm starting to wonder if we'll ever see the Wolves do something successfully... Nearly every story they've appeared in has them relying on an outside force to win or getting slaughtered It's almost as if the writers are trying to get the Worf renamed as the Russ Good comparison. But after undestructible plot armor of 40K that's what space dogs deserve Please read Ragnar Blackmane amd Emperor's Gift and then get back to me about plot armor. Read both long ago - unkillable wolves. Who died where - unnamed wolves blood claws/grey hunters/long beards? Maybe I missed some 'BIG' name dying? Let's check - nope. All the smartasses are still kicking Or even Legends of the Dark Millennium: Space Wolves, where Krom Dragongaze gets captured by Dark Eldar, has most of his veterans slaughtered for entertainment in Commorragh, Wolves fall in droves to Thousand Sons and daemons and have to be saved by the 13th. Or basically anything Horus Heresy, where the Wolves fans frequently lament that their Legion isn't winning anything really and constantly gets decimated, with Russ being comatose by the end of the Heresy. Or Battle of the Fang where the Thousand Sons are invading the Fang itself and barely managed to fend off Magnus. Or or or... Hope that not sarcasm. I wish we had half as good treatment the DA's got in Angel's of Caliban. Again how many big names died? ZERO. If you interested - I counted all SW deaths in all the W31-40K novels/shorts/audios from BL since HH. And they lost in that time on screen 2 Great Wolves, 6 company masters, 6 high rune priests and 10 champions (50% from that list died in Battle for the Fang) on screen, lol - in 9000 years. also 3210 SWs died 'on screen'. Sure poor space puppies are so unlikeable. Lol Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4578947 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 you consider the importance of a book's impact by how many big names died? I hate to tell you this but spoiler alert, Abby doesn't die in A D-B's ongoing series. You may want to skip those as he's unkillable. Poor HeritorA, able to read so much but grasp so little Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4578985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 you consider the importance of a book's impact by how many big names died? I hate to tell you this but spoiler alert, Abby doesn't die in A D-B's ongoing series. You may want to skip those as he's unkillable. Poor HeritorA, able to read so much but grasp so little Wolves in HH suffers cause they are plot armoured in W40K. Even in Wrath of Magnus coming this Saturday they get it easy (really easy) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4578992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 At this point I'm unsure if you are trolling, utterly controlled by your bias or just not seeing the complete picture Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4578995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 At this point I'm unsure if you are trolling, utterly controlled by your bias or just not seeing the complete picture You are a SW fan, I'm assessing each legion for their deeds and lore and stories - I have no preferences. So for me it seems it's you who are little blindsided with space puppies love Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4579001 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 At this point I'm unsure if you are trolling, utterly controlled by your bias or just not seeing the complete picture You are a SW fan, I'm assessing each legion for their deeds and lore and stories - I have no preferences. So for me it seems it's you who are little blindsided with space puppies love Im a fan of good stories, first and foremost. You cannot refer to a faction without using insulting nicknames. You also say you enjoy any story, regardless of how bad, when the Wolves are killed Really? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4579003 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 At least you don't have to see half your Legion rebel against your Primarch, then lose most of what remains in a bombastic battle that rips your home planet apart, and casts potential traitors into the warp to reappear sometime in the future and rally the traitor legions against you. Even the novels that are linked to Angels of Caliban, the Chapter takes magnificent losses thanks to Astelan and co's machinations, including a good chunk of the Deathwing and Ravenwing. I don't think either of the Space Wolves or Dark Angels gets off lightly in the grand scheme of things. At least the Wolves can still count upon one another's loyalty to Russ. The Lion may get my favorite quote of the Heresy: "Loyalty is its own reward" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4579058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 At this point I'm unsure if you are trolling, utterly controlled by your bias or just not seeing the complete pictureYou are a SW fan, I'm assessing each legion for their deeds and lore and stories - I have no preferences. So for me it seems it's you who are little blindsided with space puppies love Im a fan of good stories, first and foremost. You cannot refer to a faction without using insulting nicknames. You also say you enjoy any story, regardless of how bad, when the Wolves are killed Really? Since I can see his quote... @HeritorA HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL. And WLK he isnt worth the time man. He is disingenuous as hell on here.. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4579110 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Runefyre Posted December 1, 2016 Share Posted December 1, 2016 At least you don't have to see half your Legion rebel against your Primarch, then lose most of what remains in a bombastic battle that rips your home planet apart, and casts potential traitors into the warp to reappear sometime in the future and rally the traitor legions against you. Even the novels that are linked to Angels of Caliban, the Chapter takes magnificent losses thanks to Astelan and co's machinations, including a good chunk of the Deathwing and Ravenwing. I don't think either of the Space Wolves or Dark Angels gets off lightly in the grand scheme of things. At least the Wolves can still count upon one another's loyalty to Russ. The Lion may get my favorite quote of the Heresy: "Loyalty is its own reward" Not to mention all the awesome battles in Angels of Caliban. That book is amazing for DA fans. I want something like that for my Wolves. At this point I'm unsure if you are trolling, utterly controlled by your bias or just not seeing the complete pictureYou are a SW fan, I'm assessing each legion for their deeds and lore and stories - I have no preferences. So for me it seems it's you who are little blindsided with space puppies love Im a fan of good stories, first and foremost. You cannot refer to a faction without using insulting nicknames. You also say you enjoy any story, regardless of how bad, when the Wolves are killed Really? Since I can see his quote... @HeritorA HAHAHAHAHAHA LOL. And WLK he isnt worth the time man. He is disingenuous as hell on here.. Seconded. I try to ignore HeritorA whenever possible. It is unfortunate that he has no respect for other people's favorite factions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4579158 Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted December 2, 2016 Share Posted December 2, 2016 So another "the Wolves get slaughtered and need to be saved by somebody else" story? Oh joy. How many is that now? I seem to recall your view of Wolf King was favourable. Does seem that some writers have gone too far with their desire to counter perceived plot armour. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/328226-horus-heresy-releases-we-know-about-but-what-next/page/3/#findComment-4579843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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