Kelborn Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Indeed, your Badab plans doe sound promising. Hopefully it will be realized sooner or later! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieJGoulding Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Sorry - to clarify, all my pitches were as an editor. I intended to handle all the books as the guiding force, with authors each contributing a book each. I would have loved to build on the ideals established in the HH, far more focused than we managed with TBA. I won't go into details because I don't know what happened to all my project materials after I left. It could well be that someone else will pick some/all of it up at a later date, but (as I said) I have absolutely no knowledge of anything along those lines in the works. Suffice to say, it would have seen Lufgt Huron go from the hero of the first book to the evil villain of the last one. Virtually unrecogniseable. And no magic swords here. No daemonic possession. Just a man whose heart(s) used to be in the right place, but somewhere along the line he got a taste for being in charge. It's a slippery slope... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc warhammer Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 And no magic swords here. No daemonic possession. Just a man whose heart(s) used to be in the right place, but somewhere along the line he got a taste for being in charge. It's a slippery slope... which is pretty much what i came to BL/GW for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augustus Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 That sounds amazing, LG. The slow fall into damnation of a hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Heres hoping someone is rifling your old file cabinet as we 'speak' and gets it into the system. Laurie, did they try the impossible and replace you or just dump everything on Nick's desk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 In all my time at BL, I was pushing for a Unification Wars series A man after my own heart Terra during the UW is a whole setting unto itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 To be fair you could have several books written about life in the imperial palace from many perspectives. Right from the lowest clerk right up to Custodian. It's not the place that's important just for me as long as it's not bolter porn. Would be good to see someone go traitor that doesn't involve chaos. Just to prove people don't have to be chaos pawns to be bad in 40k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mirbeau Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Would like to read more of the Great Crusade. Personally, blood angels are desperately wanted, we haven't had a great deal over the years and much of it has been produced by James Swallow exclusively. It would be good to have different perspectives and narratives for the legion/chapter. My xenos wish would be the birth of Slaanesh, before and after, so much potential horror and weirdness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Would like to read more of the Great Crusade. Personally, blood angels are desperately wanted, we haven't had a great deal over the years and much of it has been produced by James Swallow exclusively. It would be good to have different perspectives and narratives for the legion/chapter. My xenos wish would be the birth of Slaanesh, before and after, so much potential horror and weirdness. Just wishful thinking. In all my time at BL, I was pushing for a Unification Wars series A man after my own heart Terra during the UW is a whole setting unto itself Not until the HH will end. Primarchs is disappointing. So can't say I want UW at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieJGoulding Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I don't think they straight-up replaced me, in fact I know they were aiming to hire *two* new editors anyway. I don't know how that process went, I'm afraid. Imperial Palace from multiple perspectives - check out Chris Wraight's awesome new book 'The Carrion Throne' when it hits shelves. ;-) And the Primarchs novels are intended to be the intended Great Crusade series that I also never got to start, in all but name. But I imagine there will be some HH-era tales in there too, eventually. ANDREY. You keep forgetting to add "in my humble opinion" to your posts. Don't worry, I'm back now and I can remind you constantly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 I don't think they straight-up replaced me, in fact I know they were aiming to hire *two* new editors anyway. I don't know how that process went, I'm afraid. Imperial Palace from multiple perspectives - check out Chris Wraight's awesome new book 'The Carrion Throne' when it hits shelves. ;-) And the Primarchs novels are intended to be the intended Great Crusade series that I also never got to start, in all but name. But I imagine there will be some HH-era tales in there too, eventually. ANDREY. You keep forgetting to add "in my humble opinion" to your posts. Don't worry, I'm back now and I can remind you constantly. But Carrion Throne is not a HH book. Yes I would read it - tis Wraight! He never get something wrong. I adorne him. Sadly the Primarchs are very blank books - except Leman Russ, but again they are running at the time of HH going into final phase - and it's not exactly interesting to read the serie right now. I my humble opinion of course Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomsky Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Using the power of equivocation, I shall transform the title question. I would like BL to do another Horus Heresy style series, not another Beast Arises style series. I know I've said that before, but now that I'm nearing the end of TBA, I have a new point against that format: you all but have to read every single one. This is fine if every book is by the same author, a la Gaunt's Ghosts, but when you're dealing with several, extremely important points may be covered in a book that is utter tripe. Certainly none in TBA have been that bad, but there've been a few so far I could've lived without, did they not contain pertinent plot details. Imagine if Deathfire had the only detailed account of the traitor's entering the Sol system. A sad day indeed, it would have been. And if you're wondering if I'll ever tire of arguing the superiority self-contained entries in a series, the answer is: UNLIKELY. PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 The Primarch books are literally as blank as the flaming blank yellow weird glowing eyes that they have in their frankly awful artwork. (Yes I hate the weird eyes thing) ... in my opinion. Also I can't think of anything worse than another HH type series. Dragging on with no foreseeable end. With nothing but soul sucking pointless releases and no definite release date. I mean, at least with TBA we knew. One a month. For a year. We knew how much it would cost and for some price and outgoings spent on books actually matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roomsky Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Also I can't think of anything worse than another HH type series. Dragging on with no foreseeable end. With nothing but soul sucking pointless releases and no definite release date. I mean, at least with TBA we knew. One a month. For a year. We knew how much it would cost and for some price and outgoings spent on books actually matter. "Different strokes", I suppose. While the Primarchs series is floundering a bit at the moment, I wouldn't at all be opposed to more series like it, the up-front timeframe and release number are indeed nice, though I think it needs to be more relaxed than TBA, both narratively and in time between entries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 9, 2017 Share Posted February 9, 2017 Leman Russ: Great Wolf is very good IMO I know some disagree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phoebus Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I'd like to see The Great Scouring as a series to conclude the Heresy Series. Seeing how much happens in the Scouring, the series could basically be The Horus Heresy: Part Two. Both events are pretty much the same war, just that the Imperium are the ones on the offensive, not the traitors. The beauty of it, in my humble opinion, would be to see the moral shift of the Imperium of Man. What comes during and after the Scouring is distinctly different from what the Emperor was going for. To answer the OP's question: I echo Laurie's desire to see a Badab series. I'll take that one step farther, though. I understand the Black Library authors don't want to be shackled to Games Workshop's projects. That having been said, the model of The Beast Arises seems like a perfect vehicle to accompany the release of something on the level of Forge World's Badab War books. That goes double for when Games Workshop gives us the Thirteenth Black Crusade Meets Guilliman's Resurrection. There should be more than three novels for that kind of tale, and they really should be every bit as ambitious as the best of the Horus Heresy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 It's a bit of a tragedy that the whole Guilliman thing isn't s proper novel series. Putting it in something alongside rules for a campaign seems so wrong. But then I don't play any off GW's games. I only read the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 The Guilliman novels will come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Only needs to be a trilogy ... or maybe 5-6 books max. ... in my humble opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 It is confirmed? I mean the RG novels. Man...hopefully they are good. Could be decent enough for me to give them a try. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 Sorry - to clarify, I pitched it as an editor. I intended to handle all seven books, with seven authors each contributing a book each. It would have been the ideals established in the HH, far more focused than we managed with TBA. I won't go into details because I don't know what happened to all my project materials after I left. It could well be that someone else will pick some/all of it up at a later date, but (as I said) I have absolutely no knowledge of anything along those lines in the works. Suffice to say, it would have seen Lufgt Huron go from the hero of the first book to the evil villain of the last one. Virtually unrecogniseable. And no magic swords here. No daemonic possession. Just a man whose heart(s) used to be in the right place, but somewhere along the line he got a taste for being in charge. It's a slippery slope... WOW JUST WOW. Now I'm truly and totally ruined with you leaving BL ;( The Primarch books are literally as blank as the flaming blank yellow weird glowing eyes that they have in their frankly awful artwork. (Yes I hate the weird eyes thing) ... in my opinion. Also I can't think of anything worse than another HH type series. Dragging on with no foreseeable end. With nothing but soul sucking pointless releases and no definite release date. I mean, at least with TBA we knew. One a month. For a year. We knew how much it would cost and for some price and outgoings spent on books actually matter. Exactly and through Leman Russ was good - RG IS HORRIBLE. Magnus just bad Only needs to be a trilogy ... or maybe 5-6 books max. ... in my humble opinion. you can't do 6 books about 18th Primarchs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow Posted February 10, 2017 Share Posted February 10, 2017 I was referring to the new Guilliman resurrection. That could be done in 3 to 6 books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 I would also like to see the TBA format applied to the rise and fall of a Chapter, from their Founding through to their fall in final battle (but not to Chaos/renegade status). Would be a good way of showing just how new Chapters are founded before moving on to a famous battle or two and ending with their final fate. Taken down by the Inquisition, with all the internal Ordo politics pushing this? A Blood Angels successor who all fall to their curse? Maybe the Lamenters from cursed Founding beginnings to their (near) end when they run into the Tyranids on their post-Badab penitent crusade? many possibilities... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted February 13, 2017 Share Posted February 13, 2017 'And if you're wondering if I'll ever tire of arguing the superiority self-contained entries in a series, the answer is: UNLIKELY. PRAISE THE OMNISSIAH' - we will see. Praise the High Cog Also I can't think of anything worse than another HH type series. Dragging on with no foreseeable end. With nothing but soul sucking pointless releases and no definite release date. I mean, at least with TBA we knew. One a month. For a year. We knew how much it would cost and for some price and outgoings spent on books actually matter. "Different strokes", I suppose. While the Primarchs series is floundering a bit at the moment, I wouldn't at all be opposed to more series like it, the up-front timeframe and release number are indeed nice, though I think it needs to be more relaxed than TBA, both narratively and in time between entries. It was floundering since Roboute Guilliman first book. Plus Primarch series if different to TBA - cause TBA is a serie which consists of short novels (256 pages) and 'Primarchs' is a novellas range (you can't call a 126 pages even a short novel Laurie) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaurieJGoulding Posted February 14, 2017 Share Posted February 14, 2017 THEY ARE THE SAME LENGTH @ 50,000+ WORDS. Just let it go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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