grailkeeper Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 (edited) Rathamanti & Don't-Be-Haten: Irish Gaellc, I'm a fluent Gaeilgeoir. I'd be happy to help in any way I can. There are some ancient Irish traditions about names. In Connemara where my grannys family are from traditionally people didnt go by their family surnames as there were so few surnames in the area and it was easy to get different families confused. Instead they went by their first name, fathers name, grandfathers name, great grandfathers name. My grannies name in English was Bridget Naughten but in Irish was Bríd Mhairtin Micheilin Eoin- Bridget daughter of Martin, Son of Little Michael, son of Eoin. (Making me Maitiu, Micheal, Brid, Mhartin). My grandfather didn't know this tradition so wrote her a love letter and it went through 9 different Bridget Naughtens before it reached the right one. Might be interesting way to have marines ceremonial names- maybe it'd be Marine name, Marine from whom he got his geneseed, Marine from whom he got his geneseed. Irish is a big passion of mine and I never thought I might get the chance to mix it with 40k. Edited June 7, 2017 by grailkeeper Vesper and Petitioner's City 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4775682 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted June 7, 2017 Share Posted June 7, 2017 The word for Inquisitor in Irish might be scrúdaitheoir (literally examiner) which pronounced phonetically is "Screw the Whore". If Gav Thorpe can have a character named "Erasmus Spooge" you should try that one. Gamiel, HeritorA and DarKnight 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4775685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just remembered that the Irish word for "Fist" is Dorn. Gamiel 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4776219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just remembered that the Irish word for "Fist" is Dorn. For real or wishful thinking? Just asking DarKnight 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4776238 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarKnight Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just remembered that the Irish word for "Fist" is Dorn. For serious? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4776319 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yak Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Loving this so far. I've had my eye on these boys for a long time. I've been looking for a chapter to contrast with my Raptors and think the pale blue and white will contrast well with the dull green and black. Now I know the B&C's very own wordsmith is taking care of them, my decision is finalised!!! Here's a mock up of 8th Company Captain O'Marcach. http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g473/Adavers/WP_20170608_13_15_17_Pro_zpsxtrgoxwu.jpg Sorry for big image if a mod could put it in spoilers for me please, as I am tech inept. HeritorA and grailkeeper 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4776321 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin_cse Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) Just remembered that the Irish word for "Fist" is Dorn. For serious? Lol wow he's right! https://www.google.com/search?q=fist+in+irish&oq=fist+in+irish&aqs=chrome..69i57.3222j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogal ;) Edited June 8, 2017 by ronin_cse grailkeeper, HeritorA and DarKnight 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4776349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just remembered that the Irish word for "Fist" is Dorn. For serious? Lol wow he's right! https://www.google.com/search?q=fist+in+irish&oq=fist+in+irish&aqs=chrome..69i57.3222j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogal Wow, nice one. Interesting - it was a methaphor upon Dorn (Primarch) creation or simply it's a coincidence? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4776562 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ronin_cse Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Just remembered that the Irish word for "Fist" is Dorn. For serious? Lol wow he's right! https://www.google.com/search?q=fist+in+irish&oq=fist+in+irish&aqs=chrome..69i57.3222j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogal Wow, nice one. Interesting - it was a methaphor upon Dorn (Primarch) creation or simply it's a coincidence? I imagine the Rogal part is a coincidence, although possibly not since the IF are kind of based of the Holy Roman and Prussian empires which did include Poland...there's no way Dorn meaning fist in Irish is a coincidence though. HeritorA 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4776582 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 ronin_cseIndeed, you are probably quite right Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4776587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I'd also really recommend the British Museum's Celts: Art and Identity book. It is an excellent series of essays, assembling some of the latest and best in Celtic scholarship, plus full of pretty objects. Ordered, thanks, dude. Petitioner's City Ordered too, thanks. By the way really good tracks while reading Abercrombie or something Space Wolves or Ultramarines related. Very happy to add to both your reading, it's a lovely book! HeritorA 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4776620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 I'd also really recommend the British Museum's Celts: Art and Identity book. It is an excellent series of essays, assembling some of the latest and best in Celtic scholarship, plus full of pretty objects. Ordered, thanks, dude. Petitioner's City Ordered too, thanks. By the way really good tracks while reading Abercrombie or something Space Wolves or Ultramarines related. Very happy to add to both your reading, it's a lovely book! I think I will see a lot of glued lines from W40K/HH where :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4776647 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathamanti Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 Which primarch do you people hope the Spears stems from? Has there been the slightest hint at which from ADB? I am hoping for one of the "cleaner" ones, like Dorn or Roboute. Corax would be cool as well... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4776927 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yak Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 "Cleaner" as in washes their hands before dinner? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4776969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathamanti Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 "Cleaner" as in washes their hands before dinner? Sorry, my English is terrible :) I don't know what else to call it. More straight types? The Yak 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4776981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 (edited) Just remembered that the Irish word for "Fist" is Dorn. For serious? For really reals. I think its probably a coincidence. I took the liberty of translating a few 40k terms into Irish. Hopefully its useful. I'd be happy to translate any others anyone needs. The Space Marine Legions 1.Dark Angels: Na hAingeal Dorcha 2. Lost/Damned: Caillte/Damnaithe 3. Emperor's Children: Paistí an hImpire 4. Iron Warriors: Laochra na hIarann (also means Iron heroes) 5. White Scars: Colm Ban 6.Space Wolves: Mac Spais (I'm taking some liberty here- Mac Tire means wolf in Irish- literally translated it means son of the land. I changed it to sons of space) 7. Imperial Fists: Doirne Impirúíl 8. Night Lords: Tiarnaí na hOiche 9. Blood angels: Na hAingeal Fola 10. Iron Hands: Lamhaí Iarann 11. Lost/Damned: Caillte/Damnaithe 12. World Eaters: Itheorí Domanda 13 Ultramarines: Na hUltramariní (hardest one to translate- no word for utramarine in Irish or any way of making the double meaning work) 14. Death Guard: Gardaí an mbás 15. Thousand Sons: na Míle Mac 16. Luna Wolves/ Sons of Horus- Mac an Geallach/Mac Horus 17. Word Bearers: Sealbhoiri an Briathar 18. Salamanders: Laighearteanna (Lizards) 19. Raven Guard: Gardai na Fiach Dubh 20. Alpha Legion- Slua Alfa Black Legion: Slua dubh (Which in Irish has the double meaning of "evil crowd") Emperor's Spears: Gais na hImpire The Cleaved: Na Scoitithe Primarus: Príomhastarteach Imperium: Rialu "We Stand in Midnight Clad": Seasamar ag caitheamh meanoiche. Hero/Heroes: Laoch/Laochra Soldier: Saighduir Gun: Gunna Sword/Chainsword/Power Sword: Claíomh/ Claíomhslabhra/ Claíomh cuacht Shut up: Dun suas Hello: Dia Dhuit (Literally god be with you, the response is "Dia is mhuire dhuit": God and Mary with you.) Whiskey: Uisce bheata: (Literally the water of life) "Now theres blood everywhere": "Ta fuil gach ait anois" "That traitor can eat if he thinks he's getting my world": "Is feidir leis an fealltuir sin cac a itheaimh ma cheapann sé go bhfuil sé ag fail mo domhansa" Edited June 9, 2017 by grailkeeper Gamiel, Kelborn, The Yak and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4777002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yak Posted June 8, 2017 Share Posted June 8, 2017 "Cleaner" as in washes their hands before dinner?Sorry, my English is terrible :) I don't know what else to call it. More straight types? Apologies Brother I was just being daft. Your English is excellent, as are your Emperors Spears! Rathamanti 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4777021 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Black Legion: Slua dubh (Which in Irish has the double meaning of "evil crowd") Kewwwwl. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4777048 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Maybe it's being too close to the language as a fellow irish person but the Raven Guard and Death Guard come across as much less intimidating for having 'gardaí' in their names. Slua Dubh does come out as surprisingly badass though. The Yak and grailkeeper 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4777324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rathamanti Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 "Cleaner" as in washes their hands before dinner?Sorry, my English is terrible :) I don't know what else to call it. More straight types?Apologies Brother I was just being daft. Your English is excellent, as are your Emperors Spears! Thanks :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4777428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Perils Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Oooh, have you considered some inspiration from the phoenicians/carthaginians? I hear there was recently a discovery of some early celtic texts... written in the phoenician alphabet (I think it was in portugal!) It seems to me that the phoenicians had very strong links with celts and greeks (and obviously the carthaginians and romans). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4777590 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted June 9, 2017 Share Posted June 9, 2017 Black Legion: Slua dubh (Which in Irish has the double meaning of "evil crowd") Kewwwwl. Cawl? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4777670 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ascanius Posted June 10, 2017 Share Posted June 10, 2017 Maybe it's being too close to the language as a fellow irish person but the Raven Guard and Death Guard come across as much less intimidating for having 'gardaí' in their names. I'm only working with Google Translate, but maybe Caomhnóir instead? It's "guardian" rather than "guard", but it lacks the policing connotations. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4778377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted June 12, 2017 Share Posted June 12, 2017 Maybe it's being too close to the language as a fellow irish person but the Raven Guard and Death Guard come across as much less intimidating for having 'gardaí' in their names. I'm only working with Google Translate, but maybe Caomhnóir instead? It's "guardian" rather than "guard", but it lacks the policing connotations. Caomhnóir indeed. Thanks to Bowden and you I dived into Scottish and Irish epics and folklore Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4780153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted June 13, 2017 Share Posted June 13, 2017 SERVITORS. FLOOF MY PLUME. HeritorA, Sulemain, bluntblade and 8 others 11 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/331042-emperors-spears-covered-by-a-d-b/page/8/#findComment-4781306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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