GodEmperorOfMankind Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Straight from GW's announcement of 8th ed: A few of you might be wondering how the new edition of Warhammer 40,000 affects Forge World’s Horus Heresy rules and army lists. Well, for the moment, it won’t! You can carry on using the existing Warhammer 40,000 ruleset for your Horus Heresy games. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Looks like FW isn't ready. Not really a surprise there, but I'd rather we wait until they are ready than we get some rushed FAQ that botches years of brilliance. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4716716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaux1980 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Guess they will wait with the transition till they updated all of the red books. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4716759 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kizzdougs Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Looks like FW isn't ready. Not really a surprise there, but I'd rather we wait until they are ready than we get some rushed FAQ that botches years of brilliance. That's true. It's better that we wait for the years of brilliance to be botched rather than rush straight to it... :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4716782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughingman Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Forgeworld still has to update all the imperial armor books to 8th edition. It will be entertaining... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4716794 Share on other sites More sharing options...
GodEmperorOfMankind Posted April 22, 2017 Author Share Posted April 22, 2017 You'd think they'd get the rules beforehand and know what was coming though surely? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4716797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Awesome! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4716808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sol_Invictus Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Well at least we can relax for a little while... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4716821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Looks like FW isn't ready. Not really a surprise there, but I'd rather we wait until they are ready than we get some rushed FAQ that botches years of brilliance. That's true. It's better that we wait for the years of brilliance to be botched rather than rush straight to it... Well even with that negative attitude, this is FW, it will be a long wait either way. :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4716855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 "Narrative Play" - What's wrong with coming out and calling it 30K? Not exactly a leap of logic Massive positive - no 30K AoS for a good while as FW pull finger from :cuss and works on updating everything Massive negative - eventually we'll get dragged into the steaming pile of :cuss 8th is shaping up to be (I'll still give it a try, just zero expectations) Bigger positive - Pretty sure enough people would be keen on rolling it onward 9th Age Fantasy style if everything heads South Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4716953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demonl Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Oh oh scale creep... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4716985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionnaire of the VIIth Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 With their statement saying that Forgeworld 40k units will still be usable in 8th I think Forgeworld opted to focus on the Imperial Armor Rules first and that Horus Heresy will be converted at a later date. They did say for the moment and not that it was going to remain locked in 7th or that it will not be updated to 8th at any point. I find it very unlikely they will develop a new core rule set especially given the fact that it isn't always possible for people to find 30k opponents in their areas and making them somewhat cross compatible by having common core rules can net them money as people keep expanding their armies. So in my mind, Horus Heresy is safe at the moment but it is only a delay in the conversion to 8th. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Yea it reads "you guys can do whatever you want, even use the old rules! Aren't we nice and supportive? We totally left forgewprld out of the loop and now they're scrambling. Again" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corsovitt Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 It'd be nice if they at least released the last three legions rules/special units/characters for 7th edition. (For those of us who have all of the 7th edition codices and don't intend to play anything else) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717241 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Excessus Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 "...for the moment..." ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 Fingers crossed for our brothers from the last Legions. Maybe you get 7th edition rules. Maybe ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
depthcharge12 Posted April 22, 2017 Share Posted April 22, 2017 All I want is terminator saves on a 3+ 2d6 and assault from outflank. S'all I need. S'all any of us need. Slap a new name on it and call it 7.5. You don't even have to charge me for consulting fee. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Fingers crossed for our brothers from the last Legions. Maybe you get 7th edition rules. Maybe ;) I think that's exactly why Forgeworld is sticking to 7th edition. Sure, they've already made 18 other armies, but there are still the last three Legions left and they've probably been in development longer than 8th edition. So sure, they could just drop those three Legions and attempt to revamp the other 15, and the Mechanicum, and the Imperial Auxilia, and then go back to working on the last three Legions like I've noticed some posters seem to want, but really it'd just make a bigger mess than what there already is. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradigm Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I'm really glad they backtracked on this. I've yet to complete an army under a single ruleset. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 I don't think the wait will be years, maybe one year at the most. All FW have to do is update the Red books with core unit rules and expand the Legion rules to include the latest legion lists. Tbh I'm not worried about the edition change, all my models can still be used so no problem. I'd expect the last legions to be released will have 8th ed rules, unless the book is very close to release Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonoftherubric21 Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Makes it easy for me with my Legion lists, white scars and word bearers.the Bearers stay 7th, my scars are 40k/30k compatible so I do w/e I want with whomever I play against.When they do the 8th ed rules; Ill most certainly buy them! Will be a great upcoming edition and im sure FW will adapt just fine. though I certainly don't mind 30k under 7th as its a relatively well balanced set of armies/factions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717593 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Kjaran Coldheart Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 though I certainly don't mind 30k under 7th as its a relatively well balanced set of armies/factions. agreed. The core rules of 7th ed are my favorite in many years. Im not saying it's not without its lumps, but overall its been a fun run it's all the codex releases and data sheet formations that make things painful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kol Saresk Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Yeah. Hopefully in the interim, it will be relatively easy to convert the 8th Edition Codexes to 7th Edition so the Heresy armies aren't isolated from the mainstream. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balthamal Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 All I want is terminator saves on a 3+ 2d6 and assault from outflank. S'all I need. S'all any of us need. Slap a new name on it and call it 7.5. You don't even have to charge me for consulting fee. Please god just no. All those saves on my 10 strong Lernaean blob? Yuck. though I certainly don't mind 30k under 7th as its a relatively well balanced set of armies/factions. agreed. The core rules of 7th ed are my favorite in many years. Im not saying it's not without its lumps, but overall its been a fun run it's all the codex releases and data sheet formations that make things painful. ^^^ This. Wish I could give it more than one like because it encapsulates my feelings perfectly (IE the 7th rules aren't terrible, it's at codex level that it falls completely to pieces) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_r_parker Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Crikey, such a lot of negativity and assuming from something that's somewhat unknown as of yet. HH remaining in the 7th edition rule set isn't huge news - this has been on the rumour cards for a while now - I.e. 40k would get streamlined rules and HH would remain 'full' set of rules. And personally I'm all for it being left in 7th edition, as a whole it suits the Heresy play style and doesn't feel as gimmicky as 40k is at the moment. 40k needs an edition shakeup to realign some of the armies / units / characters, whereas HH doesn't need that in my opinion. Considering this is a "no change" announcement, I think we as 30k players are in the best boat. If 8th edition is good and stable then I'm sure FW will incorporate it into 30k through updates to the red books. If 8th edition turns out to be a bit of a flop, well we just carry on as normal. I'm going to wait and see what 8th edition brings to the Dark Angels I'm doing specifically for the new release, before analysing what an impact it could be to 30k if they adopt it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/333151-hh-to-remain-using-7th-ed-rules/#findComment-4717749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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