Pandoras Bitz Box Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 @Augustus b'rass No one thinks you are THAT guy, we are all just being helpful and supportive right? if everyone just blindly agreed with what everyone else was doing we would develope in a pretty linear fashion, I love the constructive feedback on bolter... weren't you just making this arguement to Kraut the other day I actually like this model as it is, and I agree with Krauts comments on the stance, although I recognise that its still mobile and not set at the moment. I can see where Augustus is coming from though, but I would look at his point from another angle. Its worth considering what you can justify vs how it looks. After all, if its an ornament just for you on your shelf at home, then cool, it could look like anything! But presumably some of its design is relevant to how it looks to other people... just like for all of us asking for feeback on Bolter. I know its not the case as we can already see split opinion, but if everyone who saw it said something like "how would it use that arm?" or " wouldnt it just fall over?", I think that would be pretty disappointing after all the work you put in. I've had this while working on a project and I think "does that look ok? does it make sense? does it have to though, I mean... CHAOS!... right?", so THATS why I end up showing off my stuff to all you guys because what I think I can justify might look too weird to other people... and not in the way we like (a mouth in the side of an eyeball for example. If we want an example of totally mental disregards of physics in the 40k universe, let us consider the very much non chaos Commissar Yarrick and his power claw that used to belong to Ghazghkull? but Rule of Cool I guess... I guess having chaotically warped things is cool, esspecially if they make people feel uncomfortable about them... but you want to control the kind of discomfort they feel. Disturbing vs Confusing. The way the girl crawls down the stairs in the exorcist was disturbing when the girl walks like a spider, but if she moved around upright and her feet rotated at the ankles like wheels... that would just be weird. I personally like the long arm design, you could either explain it as the physics of its movement are stretched by its link to the warp, or maybe it swings the claw like a wrecking ball. I like the asymmetry of the design vs the usual stances and designs of most of the walkers. ...too much feedback? I cant tell... I've been up since 4:45am... DuskRaider and Augustus b'Raass 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5179440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 I definitely appreciate all critiques, absolutely. Especially Auggy, even when he's being "that guy" (kidding! ). I do picture the Armiger almost throwing itself at the enemy to strike with the arm. It's not a fluid action, it would be very haphazard and wreckless. Then again, the Armigers in my House Makabius are piloted by Banner Septs, outcasts of the House, and probably even traitors from Loyalist Knight Houses (that didn't bring their Knights with them / have lost them in combat). Their safety isn't terribly important to the House Lords and as we've seen from the other abominations, Volgan Tech-Priests and Makabius Sacristans just can't help but muck about with machines / nature. The Armiger would almost be like a Knight version of my Nekrotek Slave Servitors with the massive Power Klaws. Speaking of which, I have not been idle. I approach completion on all of my Dark Mechanicum models (excluding Protean). Hopefully in the next week I'll show completed models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5179472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandoras Bitz Box Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Oh fantastic! Well done. Looking forward to those. On the subject of constructive feedback, I haven't been in the forum very long but I was only explaining to someone this morning about the atmosphere in the WIP threads, which are so positive and helpful and for me, the primary source or honest and helpful feedback. I'm certainly very thankful for it... So I don't feel like anyone ever really is "that guy" here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5179488 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 Oh, absolutely. This and Heresy 30K have been the best communities I've been a part of on the intarwebz. It's much easier to browse here and be a part of the community as well. When the forum was down for what felt like an eternity I attempted to go on Dakka Dakka and I just couldn't keep up with the posts there's so many people posting at any given time. So I'm quite grateful for B&C. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5179498 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushrong Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 That is, by far, the best looking armiger I have ever seen. Seriously an awesome conversion! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5179563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 Thanks bud! Well I got a heck of a surprise last night. My friend stopped by and dropped off a birthday present... The Adeptus Titanicus Grandmaster box! To say I am excited is an understatement. I had originally planned on playing the game but since the box sold out so quickly, I kind of gave up. I've already begin assembling one of the Warlords. Two things: I'm impressed with the detail of these kits. Games Workshop has really knocked it out of the park with these. Second, there's a lot of parts. I was surprised to see the Warlord is 3 sprues, although I guess since it's almost the size of a Knight it should be expected. I'm sure you can all guess the Legio and Household I'll be running ;) Pearson73 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5180202 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pearson73 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Well that's one heck of a good present! Happy birthday, I'm looking forward to seeing you tackle the new titans. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5180384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuderino Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 I have somehow missed this thread, which seems like a mistake now. I've been looking through that last few pages, starting from the beastmen, and I'm very impressed by everything. The various knights are all amazing and I wish I'd seen them earlier so I could have stolen some ideas hehe. The dark mechanicus kill team is also absolutely great, along with more or less everything else. I'd better subscribe so I can give some more up to date comment henceforth. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5180502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 @Pearson: You're telling me, man. I expected a case of beer and smokes, not a giant box. My wife wants to kill him, lol. @Duder: Hah, don't worry man, I think a lot of people miss my thread. It feels like it at times. And thanks for everything, although I will admit the thread has come a long way (and a long way away) from it's origin. I don't know the last time I actually posted something Death Guard related. A little more news... I've finished the brace on the Armiger's arm. I still have to do the tubing, between assembling my first Warlord and yaking everywhere today because of the flu, I've yet to do so. Hopefully within the next few days, but with the best holiday of the year coming up I'm not sure when I'll have a chance. I think this may even win over the nay-sayers. Pearson73 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5180795 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuderino Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Yeah sometimes the updates just don't generate the comment. I for one don't like Nurgle all that much (usually), so it's entirely possible that i skipped it unconsciously. I wish i hadn't:) That said, it might be time to update the title a bit:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5181085 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 Yeah, good point... I'll update the title tonight when I'm at a computer proper. So here's the arm brace sans tubing. It's got an almost steampunky vibe to it with the gears and whatnot. I see it as something the Dominus or Sacristan kind of threw together on the cuff. I think the old timey / archaeo-tech look to it really jives well with the massive dragging claw. Let me know what you think! brettfp, firestorm40k, Sgt. Blank and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5181233 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Plausibility be damned, I just love the latest incarnation of the dragging claw! Any chance of another shot of the entire model from the front, so we can get a better impression of the overall stance? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5181645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandoras Bitz Box Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I really like it, those cocks along with the bracing and the little tubes it's all mounted on, o can see it all moving whirring constantly and as the arm moves around, things all folding unexpectedly and ever changing... A bit like how the transformers change in the movies but good. The arm looks wicked, drag looks nice too. Is there any way you can widen the stance or lean its body to its right? Just feel like it would add to the 'weight' of the arm and enhanse the drag. Wicked effort. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5181648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 @Krauty: like so? @PBB: I could probably widen the stance a bit, the right leg isn't in the socket since the Decimator ball joint is MASSIVE compared to the Armiger leg. I'm... still not on the tubing. Or gap filling on the arm. This is obviously a more long term project (the two Armigers) since I'm still toiling away with painting my Dark Mechanicum models. At this point I don't even think I'll meet the deadline for Call of Chaos. Azekai, Kor Dalron, spraehbuer and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5182054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrautScientist Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Yeah, cheers for the additional picture! I'd leave the pose like that, I think -- it seems just about perfect now! :) DuskRaider 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5182068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 Agreed, this will probably be what the final pose looks like. I'll try to get the tubing done soon, I want to hide some of the excess glue on the brace... which admittedly isn't really all that much, the pieces are just so tiny. After that, it's distressing the armour and then they'll be ready for paint. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5182132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ElDuderino Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Those last few pics cemented it, I think I have a new favorite armiger! Out of curiosity, did you just happen to have those decimator bits lying around? What happened to the rest of it?:) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5182190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 I had purchased a Decimator a while ago, I believe off of eBay so it's origin is suspect to begin with. The "furnace" was used on the latest Knight, the legs and one arm (and claw) were used on the Armiger. I am contemplating using the Autocannon if I ever make the ranged variant. They'd probably fit decently and look much better than the GW bit used, which isn't difficult I'd say. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5182207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandoras Bitz Box Posted October 31, 2018 Share Posted October 31, 2018 Yeah just ignore me, this front picture makes it a lot clearer and I don't think changing the post would do much appart from creating more work reposing the arm and such. I really like it, I wish I could be it in person! Any idea what sort of timescale you might be looking at to get it ready for painting it? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5182300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted October 31, 2018 Author Share Posted October 31, 2018 Timescale? Pffft... I have no idea. I still have to finish my Dark Mechanicum models, paint the Knights and then prime AND paint the Gellerpox Mutants. As much fun as I'm having with the Armigers and Adeptus Titanicus models, they shouldn't even register on my timescale at this point. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5182589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted November 3, 2018 Share Posted November 3, 2018 I can't believe I've only just discovered this thread, it's absolutely brilliant. That Armiger with the limp, dragging claw is especially creepy. Augustus b'Raass 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5184616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuskRaider Posted November 7, 2018 Author Share Posted November 7, 2018 Well... it took forever, but I've finished my Dark Mechanicum models (sans Protean). I won't lie, I'm disappointed in myself. It's taken nearly two months to churn these out and that's completely unacceptable, especially considering I've given myself now a little over a month to complete two Knights AND all of the Rogue Trader Gellerpox models. I believe this is a lost cause but I will keep moving forward anyhow. First up is my... Skitarii?... Kill Team. I'm largely happy with how they've turned out. There's a very... disposable... feel to them. I had some fluff I was going to jot down on a lot of these models but honestly I'm just not in the mood. Next up is Fabricator Locum Zal'gesh and his Protectorate Servitors. Next, we have the Nekrotek Slave Servitors... funny thing is, I forgot to place two in the pictures. There's ten total finished. Finally, here we have Banner Bearer Malphas Makabius, House Makabius Sacristan Chaerog, and his Big Mutant Servitor assistant, Ualak. And the group SchultzChaos, Markus_, Brother Pheidias and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5186993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pandoras Bitz Box Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Oh man. These. Are. Awesome. I love the priest and servitor retinue! I love all of them in fact. I've always been super into ad mech even before the codex release, the models they released are great and I love how your using and abusing them. Totally immense! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5187075 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atia Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 Awesome work on that kill team Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5187112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 7, 2018 Share Posted November 7, 2018 My LORD they are exquisite. Your thread is always an absolute inspiration DR! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335253-duskraiders-40k-nurgle-an-experiment-in-flesh-and-machine/page/35/#findComment-5187298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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