Kelborn Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 It's about... some of those things. Most of them. In bits and bobs. Hard to explain. If I had to give a tagline summary, it's about the finding of Drach'nyen during the First Black Crusade. That's the plot. Someone at a signing asked me about Khayon's role going forward, how he relates to the other Black Legion commanders and the Ezekarion itself, as Lord Vigilator. I said it was best summed up by a Varok Saurfang quote: "I am he who watches they. I am the fist of retribution." You're quoting one of the most bad ass Ork characters ever made? May I assume that Khayon might get a "Broxigar vs. demons / Sargeras" scene? ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4431086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Hey guys, For those of you who don't follow ADB's facebook and stuff, he has started writing the second book of the Black Legion series : The Black Legion. The evil dude is teasing us with stuff like the fight between Abaddon and Sigismund or the taking of the Black. The book is supposed to cover the actual foundation of the Black Legion, the end of the Legion War, the first Black Crusade with awesome stuff like the Triumph at Uralan, the recovery of Drach'nyen... How super exciting is that ? It's about... some of those things. Most of them. In bits and bobs. Hard to explain. If I had to give a tagline summary, it's about the finding of Drach'nyen during the First Black Crusade. That's the plot. Someone at a signing asked me about Khayon's role going forward, how he relates to the other Black Legion commanders and the Ezekarion itself, as Lord Vigilator. I said it was best summed up by a Varok Saurfang quote: "I am he who watches they. I am the fist of retribution." Hi Aaron, I am quoting this piece but it is not actually what I am responding to, but the other thread was just shut down. You referred to: (Maybe Abaddon might send one of his sorcerers to Terra to go talk to the Inquisition, and thereby narrate a first-person novel series. Who knows. That certainly seems like the kind of tone said narrator is trying to convey, though.) Was that a reference to a real upcoming series, like the just announced "Vaults of Terra: Carrion Throne" by Chris Wraight? Such a series idea would be awesome. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4431164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted June 28, 2016 Share Posted June 28, 2016 Someone at a signing asked me about Khayon's role going forward, how he relates to the other Black Legion commanders and the Ezekarion itself, as Lord Vigilator. I said it was best summed up by a Varok Saurfang quote: "I am he who watches they. I am the fist of retribution." Black Legion Arnogaur confirmed ! Loved Arnogaur, by the way. The setting was suitably grim and apocalyptic, and the story itself was really cool. Aslo...I would love an encounter between Ahriman and Khayon one day...unlikely but it would be cool. Even just a conversation That would be great, indeed. And could very well happen since Abaddon's inner circle is the real deal in the Eye, I could very well see them bumping into the likes of Ahriman, Khârn, Typhus and such. Based on Khayon's failed attempt to disrupt the Rubric, pretty sure his and Ahriman's attitude towards each other is somewhere between 'misguided fool' and 'I thought you were dead'. @ Taliesin: That's what's happened so far to Khayon in Talon of Horus. The book consists of his reminiscences being told to the Inquisition while he's captured and crucified. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4431199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted June 29, 2016 Author Share Posted June 29, 2016 "Captured" might not be the right word . Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4431257 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 "Captured" might not be the right word . http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/CapturedOnPurpose It still feels pretty fresh with Khayon though, and not just because it works so well as the framing narrative. I mean, they took his eyes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4431421 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Hi Aaron, I am quoting this piece but it is not actually what I am responding to, but the other thread was just shut down. You referred to: (Maybe Abaddon might send one of his sorcerers to Terra to go talk to the Inquisition, and thereby narrate a first-person novel series. Who knows. That certainly seems like the kind of tone said narrator is trying to convey, though.) Was that a reference to a real upcoming series, like the just announced "Vaults of Terra: Carrion Throne" by Chris Wraight? Such a series idea would be awesome. As Sandlemad and Vesper said, that's what the Black Legion series is indeed about. So not "upcoming", exactly, as the first book's already out, but I'm writing Book II now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4431435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin Posted June 29, 2016 Share Posted June 29, 2016 Very cool. I haven't read Talon yet ( obviously), unlike most people here who are clamoring for the sequel ( which is a good sign indeed). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4431517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newtoncain Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Hi Aaron, I am quoting this piece but it is not actually what I am responding to, but the other thread was just shut down. You referred to: (Maybe Abaddon might send one of his sorcerers to Terra to go talk to the Inquisition, and thereby narrate a first-person novel series. Who knows. That certainly seems like the kind of tone said narrator is trying to convey, though.) Was that a reference to a real upcoming series, like the just announced "Vaults of Terra: Carrion Throne" by Chris Wraight? Such a series idea would be awesome. As Sandlemad and Vesper said, that's what the Black Legion series is indeed about. So not "upcoming", exactly, as the first book's already out, but I'm writing Book II now. Look'n forward to reading it when it is released. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4432148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 So is Dorn 'lost' during this second book or is he still around? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4432184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 If we all promise to just be real cool about it can he just be dead please? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4432190 Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 If we all promise to just be real cool about it can he just be dead please? http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/129/577/How+About+No.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4432195 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karthak Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Hi Aaron, I am quoting this piece but it is not actually what I am responding to, but the other thread was just shut down. You referred to: (Maybe Abaddon might send one of his sorcerers to Terra to go talk to the Inquisition, and thereby narrate a first-person novel series. Who knows. That certainly seems like the kind of tone said narrator is trying to convey, though.) Was that a reference to a real upcoming series, like the just announced "Vaults of Terra: Carrion Throne" by Chris Wraight? Such a series idea would be awesome. As Sandlemad and Vesper said, that's what the Black Legion series is indeed about. So not "upcoming", exactly, as the first book's already out, but I'm writing Book II now. Could we have some scenes where Khayon goes "drat, maybe I shouldn't have told them that" or an Inquisitor points something out that he had never considered before? The part at the end where he tells the Lady Inquisitor that he's telling them this because they're @£"ed anyway was cool, but it would be nice if his captors get in some rhetorical hits of their own every now and then. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4432418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted June 30, 2016 Author Share Posted June 30, 2016 So is Dorn 'lost' during this second book or is he still around? Dorn is supposed to die during a Black Crusade that takes place after the first one. And one not led by Abaddon. So we could infere that it's one called by one of Abaddon's rivals (because if you're not with me, you're against me) who tries to emulate his success. And even if his Black Crusade kinda fails, I guess coming back in the Eye with the skull of Dorn around your neck would be great enough to build a huge reputation and threaten Abaddon's might. Which could lead to a great rivalry. EDIT : Could we have some scenes where Khayon goes "drat, maybe I shouldn't have told them that" or an Inquisitor points something out that he had never considered before? The part at the end where he tells the Lady Inquisitor that he's telling them this because they're @£"ed anyway was cool, but it would be nice if his captors get in some rhetorical hits of their own every now and then. I wonder how the framming will go. I know ADB had no idea if Abaddon would try to "rescue" Khayon, but I think it's unlikely since Khayon told his captors Abaddon wanted him here (even though it might be a lie). Or maybe he'll escape and go deliver his message to what's left of the Emperor. Telling his last living cells "We are returned". Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4432459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted June 30, 2016 Share Posted June 30, 2016 Khayon on is actually made of wildfire. Abaddon is gonna be sipping wine from Sigismund's skull when he explodes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4432576 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBadweed Posted July 1, 2016 Share Posted July 1, 2016 Great news for book 2 ! As for Khayon's inquisition problem, i have a theory : Remember when Abby confronts Khayon about whatserhname Dark eldar's Undeath ? My memory's a bit fuzzy and i do not have the book in front of me but he then asks Khayon if he could do it again or make someone believe he's someone else before dismissing the conversation. IMO it's not Khayon in the inqui forteress, it's something/someone on which Khayon imprinted himself. Now before dismissing this, consider the thousand sons history with Hidden Ones and veeeeeeeery deep cover operatives, such as in Prospero Burns or the old lore. If that's the case, very tricksy A-D-B, veeery Tricksy :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4433251 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Ciaphas Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 Excellent news about the second book coming! I loved Talon of Horus...and the limited edition I managed to get my hands on, was a delight to read! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4435629 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lagrath Posted July 5, 2016 Share Posted July 5, 2016 I can't wait! Most importantly - will there be another limited edition as nice as the first one in the series? I had to pay a king's ransom to ebay one after it was out and want to make sure I'm ready this time! http://i.imgur.com/dnrhcOF.jpg Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4435941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petitioner's City Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I love that Night Lords painting on the cover of the limited edition - I remember it from 3rd edition, was it in Index Astartes or the 3.5 Codex? Good for reminding people the reaper iconography is old hat for the Night Lords. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4437278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isengrin Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 I love that Night Lords painting on the cover of the limited edition - I remember it from 3rd edition, was it in Index Astartes or the 3.5 Codex? Good for reminding people the reaper iconography is old hat for the Night Lords. That's from Index Astartes as far as I remember. The Night Lords entry in the codex had a different, but equally evocative, piece in it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4437342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandlemad Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 There's something terribly creepy about the way that CSM is loosely holding his scythe with a bare hand. Isengrin: is it this one you're thinking of? Great piece. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4437370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isengrin Posted July 7, 2016 Share Posted July 7, 2016 Yeah, it is! Still one of my favorites. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4437404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeritorA Posted July 13, 2016 Share Posted July 13, 2016 Awesome image for Night Lords trilogy set Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4441304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A D-B Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 So is Dorn 'lost' during this second book or is he still around? Dorn is supposed to die during a Black Crusade that takes place after the first one. And one not led by Abaddon. So we could infere that it's one called by one of Abaddon's rivals (because if you're not with me, you're against me) who tries to emulate his success. And even if his Black Crusade kinda fails, I guess coming back in the Eye with the skull of Dorn around your neck would be great enough to build a huge reputation and threaten Abaddon's might. Which could lead to a great rivalry. EDIT : Could we have some scenes where Khayon goes "drat, maybe I shouldn't have told them that" or an Inquisitor points something out that he had never considered before? The part at the end where he tells the Lady Inquisitor that he's telling them this because they're @£"ed anyway was cool, but it would be nice if his captors get in some rhetorical hits of their own every now and then. I wonder how the framming will go. I know ADB had no idea if Abaddon would try to "rescue" Khayon, but I think it's unlikely since Khayon told his captors Abaddon wanted him here (even though it might be a lie). Or maybe he'll escape and go deliver his message to what's left of the Emperor. Telling his last living cells "We are returned". I personally hope Khayon doesn't escape and leave Terra. He's the narrator and framing device. I need him there, talking to people. If he escaped, that'd be pretty damn selfish of him. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4443079 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesper Posted July 15, 2016 Author Share Posted July 15, 2016 Oh, I concur, there's way too much I want to know before I'm willing to consider giving him a break. But I suppose I'm being selfish too so... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4443104 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JH79 Posted July 15, 2016 Share Posted July 15, 2016 I found Khayon to be a fascinating character who somehow actually had me routing for him during parts of his journey, but i can't help feeling that IF he had the opportunity to escape (and let's face it he has as much chance as Epimetheus does!) he wouldn't take it. He is exactly where Abaddon want's him, for better or worse. Like him or not he still calls the galaxy's biggest douchbag "warmaster" and as such is expendable for the betterment of his long war. I think Khayon freely accepts his fate while serving a higher purpose. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/338425-the-black-legion/page/2/#findComment-4443239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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