Scouring-Era World Eaters

[Lhorke The First]

Hello everybody,

 

I am busy putting together a World Eaters army themed around the Scouring to use for the 40k 8th edition. As I've said on a couple of other threads I am using a mixture of 30k plastics and chaos kits. I am more concerned with my army being lore accurate/plausible than competitive, as my friends and I play a lot of narrative campaigns/missions.

I am reasonably familiar with World Eaters lore, but I have not read as much material about the Scouring. 

 

Here are some of my basic ideas. I am heavily utilizing assault troops. The more zealous warriors will be represented as berzerkers and have the well known red and brass armor with MK II WE veterans heads (I want to avoid the actual berzerker kit). The more dedicated to Khorne/lost to the nails they are, the more red/chaosy their armor. Additionally, terminators will have the standard WE 40k red and brass paint scheme.

 

The basic troops will be mainly white with red pauldrons and brass trim (I'm hoping the right mixture of red, the prevalence of chaos bitz, and the brass will make them not too closely resemble the white scars). I may also paint my regular chaos marine squads in the pre-heresy World Eaters colors to show that they are not COMPLETELY devoted to Khorne. 

 

I'm also planning on kitbashing some havocs with lascannons, heavy bolters, and autocannons.

 

For the elite troops, I plan to acquire some cataphractii termies and paint/model them as Devourers.

 

Dreads will primarily be contemptors, and I am planning on acquiring a Spartan Assault Tank for heavy support/transport.

 

I'v already built and painted all the regular chaos marine squads I would need (i can just reuse my 30k army for this) and I am currently acquiring parts for the berzerkers.

 

So, what are your thoughts? What kits would you use? What units would you take? Is there any major Scouring fluff I should know about? I'd really appreciate any feedback you all could provide.

 

Thanks, 

Lhorke

[Kizzdougs]

Regarding the colour scheme you could use the 'regular' 40k World Eaters' scheme if you wanted to. The XIIth Legion started to add red to their scheme fairly early in the Heresy and by the Siege I imagine that they were already pretty far gone. So you could go with your original plan which is completely legitimate or you could go with the red 40k scheme which would also be pretty appropriate :tu:

 

 

These two World Eaters are in the Legion's early/mid-Heresy colour scheme. I could imagine that by the Scouring they'd have even more red/blood on their armour.

 

[OPTIMVSCHRISTVS]

As far as Scouring-era fluff, definitely check our Khârn: Eater of Worlds. Gives a great snapshot of how XII Legion warbands looked and operated immediately before Skalathrax and goes into some detail about the different paint schemes floating around. Your current plans seem pretty fluffy as is, imo.

[Lhorke The First]

Regarding the colour scheme you could use the 'regular' 40k World Eaters' scheme if you wanted to. The XIIth Legion started to add red to their scheme fairly early in the Heresy and by the Siege I imagine that they were already pretty far gone. So you could go with your original plan which is completely legitimate or you could go with the red 40k scheme which would also be pretty appropriate

 

 

These two World Eaters are in the Legion's early/mid-Heresy colour scheme. I could imagine that by the Scouring they'd have even more red/blood on their armour.

 

That assault legionary is exactly what I'm going for, I really like the color scheme. Do you happen to know which of the Horus Heresy books those illustrations come from? And thanks for the feedback, I'll probably use the standard 40k scheme for the berzerkers, terminators, and other elite units and characters.

 

 

As far as Scouring-era fluff, definitely check our Khârn: Eater of Worlds. Gives a great snapshot of how XII Legion warbands looked and operated immediately before Skalathrax and goes into some detail about the different paint schemes floating around. Your current plans seem pretty fluffy as is, imo.

 

Thanks I will definitely check that book out!

 

Another question, what are some kits that are out there that you like to use for berzerkers? I'm trying to avoid using the old kit. Also, what units have you guys found to be successful?

[Sagentus]

If you are looking to do somehting like this, check out Betrayer41's wip http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/335516-betrayer41%E2%80%99s-late-heresy-world-eaters/

 

He has plenty of great ideas and would probably help you out with what kits work best ;) 

[OPTIMVSCHRISTVS]

I've been using Mk. III base with mixed bits sprinkled in (forgeworld legion and berzerker, raptor kit, plastic berzerker kit), pretty pleased with the results. I have a couple of Mk. IV sprues laying around as well so I might add some of that to mix things up a bit.

[ElDuderino]

AoS has some awesome kits for splicing up world eaters, check out the wrathmongers and the blood warriors in particular. Might be a bit more overtly chaotic than what you're looking for though, but the blood warriors look amazing when combined with mk3 legs and arms

[Lhorke The First]

I've been using Mk. III base with mixed bits sprinkled in (forgeworld legion and berzerker, raptor kit, plastic berzerker kit), pretty pleased with the results. I have a couple of Mk. IV sprues laying around as well so I might add some of that to mix things up a bit.

 

Yeah I'm also a huge fan of the MK III armor. They will probably make up the majority with some MK IV guys throne in as sergeants. I'm working on a squad right now that are mixed with raptor arms.  I've got some forgeworld WE legion helmets that I can use. Have you used the chain axes or shoulder pads? If so, how is the quality?

 

 

AoS has some awesome kits for splicing up world eaters, check out the wrathmongers and the blood warriors in particular. Might be a bit more overtly chaotic than what you're looking for though, but the blood warriors look amazing when combined with mk3 legs and arms

 

Thanks Elduderino I'll take a look at these. I'd love to throw in some more axes and bare arms if I can. Anything that will help me to achieve a gladiatorial look will be considered.

[OPTIMVSCHRISTVS]

The shoulder pads are excellent, both the legion and berzerker ones. I use a mix of both sprinkled throughout. I have not used the chain axes (I lack the patience to attempt to pin stuff)- for those I use the axes/swords from the plastic berzerker kit and cut them off at the wrist.

[Lhorke The First]

The shoulder pads are excellent, both the legion and berzerker ones. I use a mix of both sprinkled throughout. I have not used the chain axes (I lack the patience to attempt to pin stuff)- for those I use the axes/swords from the plastic berzerker kit and cut them off at the wrist.

Ok thanks for the feedback on those. All of the forgeworld stuff I have used so far has been top notch but I thought it couldn't hurt to check. I also do not have the patience to pin stuff so I may go ahead and see if I can pick up a berzerker box on the cheap to get some axes.

[betrayer41]

I'm more or less in the same boat as you. I want a 30k themed army but for 40k.  I went with the red and white as well, I'll have a few units of 40k WE red sprinkled in as well.

 

As previously mentioned AOS bood warriors are a god send between the bare arms with axes and the awesome torsos. Also it beefs your guys up a bit.

 

I recently bought about 40 FW WE pads, i absolutely love them.  Also you can throw some transfers on normal pads and should save you some money.

[Lhorke The First]

I'm more or less in the same boat as you. I want a 30k themed army but for 40k.  I went with the red and white as well, I'll have a few units of 40k WE red sprinkled in as well.

 

As previously mentioned AOS bood warriors are a god send between the bare arms with axes and the awesome torsos. Also it beefs your guys up a bit.

 

I recently bought about 40 FW WE pads, i absolutely love them.  Also you can throw some transfers on normal pads and should save you some money.

Good to know on the FW WE pads. I'm about to put in an order with forgeworld for two sets of those and two sets of helmets. I'm currently browsing eBay for blood warriors bits. Also the local store has a box of berzerkers I'm considering grabbing for the chain weapons, torsos, and shoulder pads. Should make for some fun conversions!

 

I am also really excited because I finally pulled the trigger and ordered Khârn the Betrayer.

[Lhorke The First]

So I have made some progress on my army. I began painting some of my assembled troops.

 

 

These are mostly in the early stages of painting. I did not have the Khorne Red paint when I first started, so some of their pauldrons are a little too bright. Any feedback welcome.

 

Thanks,

Lhorke

[Lhorke The First]

So I am trying to figure out what vehicles I need to acquire so I can get my berzerker heavy army safely into combat while also dishing out a decent amount of firepower. I would also like the vehicles to go with the late-heresy/scouring theme. I've been pretty set on a Spartan because I've heard they are pretty tough and dish out a lot of pain. This would also complement my army's theme really well.

 

Has anybody had good experiences running a Spartan with a World Eaters army? Would I be better off using rhinos or land raiders?

[OPTIMVSCHRISTVS]

I sing the praises of the Spartan whenever given the opportunity- point for point it's better than a Land Raider and is a badass model to boot. I'd say of any army that can take the Spartan, we're probably the one where it's really worth it.

 

I use a combination of Spartans and Rhinos- gives a bit of tactical flexibility and really messes with the enemy's targeting priority.

[Lhorke The First]

I sing the praises of the Spartan whenever given the opportunity- point for point it's better than a Land Raider and is a badass model to boot. I'd say of any army that can take the Spartan, we're probably the one where it's really worth it.

 

I use a combination of Spartans and Rhinos- gives a bit of tactical flexibility and really messes with the enemy's targeting priority.

 Ok it is settled then. A Spartan is going on the Christmas list. Maybe my wife will get one for me. 

 

Also, I had some MK II World Eaters shoulder pads and heads come in the mail, along with a legion transfer sheet. Hopefully I will be able to get the bulk of this army ready for a Scouring-era campaign a couple of friends and I are writing and planning to play over the winter break. 

[Lhorke The First]

My friend and I are putting together a narrative campaign to celebrate finishing grad school. This is not going to be competitive or anything, we are just trying to have a fun and somewhat fluffy fight. He is running his Dark Angels and I am going to use my World Eaters. The objective the game is to hold a webway gate at the end of turn 5. 

 

Balance is not really an issue since this is just for fun and not matched play, though we are trying to stick to roughly 3000 points. 

 

The DA player is running:

Greenwing: 

 

Azrael

 

Primaris Lieutenant 

 

Chapter Ancient 

 

Primaris Ancient 

 

Librarian 

 

Intercessors

 

Tactical Marines

 

Scouts 

 

Las Pred

 

Las Repulsor 

 

Hellblasters

 

Plasma Inceptors

 

 

 

Deathwing:

 

Deathwing Terminators Blob

 

Belial 

 

 

 

Ravenwing:

 

Ravenwing Bikers

 

Black Knights

 

Sammael 

 

I on the other hand have not really ironed out my list yet. This is what I know for sure I will be bringing:

Blob of berzerkers in a Spartan assault tank

 

Khârn

 

autocannon/heavy bolter pred

 

leviathan w/ storm cannon and siege claw

 

I've got roughly three weeks to a month before the game and I want to use that time to get some more units. As stated, I'm more concerned with fluff and having a fun game. I figured I could pick up a couple of Mk III of Mk IV squads on ebay and some lascannons in order to build some havocs. I've already got a large number of World Eaters armed with heavy bolters I can galvanize into some havoc squads. Mainly, I want to get more fire support to draw fire from my main Spartan/zerker punch.

 

I'm trying to decide what else to get beforehand. A las-predator? Any other form of predator? I'm really not too keen on land raiders.

 

Any advice on some fun fire support units? (Rule of cool carries a lot of weight with me)

[OPTIMVSCHRISTVS]

I like Vindicator laser destroyers for fire support, could convert them pretty easily from the regular plastic kit (that's what I'm doing). Since it's heresy era that'd jive with your scouring-era army. Also had pretty good luck with plasma raptors. Contemptors are also very good with our legion trait, I like soulburners on those (actually ran a pair against a Deathwing/Ravenwing army a few months back and they melted his terminators and bikes).

 

I pretty much tabled the DA army I fought and it was pretty similar to what you'll be facing, my list was something like this:

 

Khârn

Dark Apostle

 

4x8 Berzerkers, chainaxes/swords, fist on the sgt, icon

 

2x Rhinos

 

1x Spartan

 

2x Contemptors, claws/soulburners

 

Khârn spent the whole game babysitting the Spartan and giving rerolls on those lascannon shots, he destroyed 3 vehicles over the space of 3 turns (2 venerable dreads and a razorback).

[Ketzer]

Have you given those Obliterators a thought?

I am currently building some, using the Centurion kit and some AoS/Fantasy bling-bling... currently at work so no quick picture for you but they sprang to my mind when you mentioned the rule of cool.

You can field them in your deployment zone if you like, but the real cherry on the pie is their ability to deep strike (in turn 2 if you use Beta rules, but hey...)

Otherwise, if you don't like to place the predators - maybe a Vindicator or even a Vindicator Laser Destroyer?

[Lhorke The First]

I like Vindicator laser destroyers for fire support, could convert them pretty easily from the regular plastic kit (that's what I'm doing). Since it's heresy era that'd jive with your scouring-era army. Also had pretty good luck with plasma raptors. Contemptors are also very good with our legion trait, I like soulburners on those (actually ran a pair against a Deathwing/Ravenwing army a few months back and they melted his terminators and bikes).

 

I pretty much tabled the DA army I fought and it was pretty similar to what you'll be facing, my list was something like this:

 

Khârn

Dark Apostle

 

4x8 Berzerkers, chainaxes/swords, fist on the sgt, icon

 

2x Rhinos

 

1x Spartan

 

2x Contemptors, claws/soulburners

 

Khârn spent the whole game babysitting the Spartan and giving rerolls on those lascannon shots, he destroyed 3 vehicles over the space of 3 turns (2 venerable dreads and a razorback).

 

I'm also using a contemptor for this game, though mine has an assault cannon. I do like the idea of the vindicator laser destroyer. I've got a vindicator already built and mostly painted, but I'm my friend won't mind if I run it as a laser destroyer. That should do until I'm able to get the bits to convert one or somebody generously buys me a forgeworld model (not likely).

 

Interesting use of Khârn. Do you find that is more effective? I usually just send him into combat with my berzerkers.

 

 

Have you given those Obliterators a thought?

I am currently building some, using the Centurion kit and some AoS/Fantasy bling-bling... currently at work so no quick picture for you but they sprang to my mind when you mentioned the rule of cool.

You can field them in your deployment zone if you like, but the real cherry on the pie is their ability to deep strike (in turn 2 if you use Beta rules, but hey...)

Otherwise, if you don't like to place the predators - maybe a Vindicator or even a Vindicator Laser Destroyer?

 

I actually really like the centurion kit for building obliterators! I'm planning on putting some together in the future, there are just a lot of parts I don't have that I need, same for the laser destroyer.

I also really like predators. I only have the one at the moment, with the predator autocannon and heavy bolter sponsons. I've had a lot of success clearing out infantry with it. I've never tried the other variants. I have wanted to try the annihilator to possibly destroy armored vehicles and to hopefully draw fire from my Spartan.

[OPTIMVSCHRISTVS]

 

Interesting use of Khârn. Do you find that is more effective? I usually just send him into combat with my berzerkers.

 

It depends on the tactical situation, really. There's very little reason not to just run him on foot next to the Spartan (just deploy other units so he can't be picked off) on turn 1. What I do is start him embarked in a Rhino right next to it so he'll have a minimum 9" move starting without the risk of being eaten getting out of the Spartan. At that point you get your rerolls for your opening salvo and on subsequent turns can then decide if he's better off closing in for the charge or if you still need that buffed ranged firepower. Gives us some very nice tactical flexibility and works especially well with the Spartan, which will be driving towards the enemy anyway.

 

The nice thing is the Spartan just got FAQ'd to get daemonic machine spirit so we don't have to burn a CP to alleviate the -1 for moving and shooting.

[Lord Rust]

Not really a fire support unit, but......a winged Daemon Prince of Khorne always gets work done for me (I play World Eaters supported by Khorne daemons)

[Lhorke The First]

 

 

Interesting use of Khârn. Do you find that is more effective? I usually just send him into combat with my berzerkers.

 

It depends on the tactical situation, really. There's very little reason not to just run him on foot next to the Spartan (just deploy other units so he can't be picked off) on turn 1. What I do is start him embarked in a Rhino right next to it so he'll have a minimum 9" move starting without the risk of being eaten getting out of the Spartan. At that point you get your rerolls for your opening salvo and on subsequent turns can then decide if he's better off closing in for the charge or if you still need that buffed ranged firepower. Gives us some very nice tactical flexibility and works especially well with the Spartan, which will be driving towards the enemy anyway.

 

The nice thing is the Spartan just got FAQ'd to get daemonic machine spirit so we don't have to burn a CP to alleviate the -1 for moving and shooting.

 

 

Ok I may give that a shot depending on what my friend ends up taking.

 

And yeah I saw that about the Spartan. I always thought it was ridiculous that it had to take a -1 hit modifier every time it moved. Needless to say, that made me happy 

 

Not really a fire support unit, but......a winged Daemon Prince of Khorne always gets work done for me (I play World Eaters supported by Khorne daemons)

 

Hmm, I haven't considered a daemon prince. I may have to try one out sometime.

[Lord Rust]

The double talon prince with the WE legion trait gets 9 attacks on the charge at S7 -2ap 2dam hitting on 2s rerolling 1s

With a move of 12" and the FLY keyword and that hes a Character with less than 10 wounds, he has always been good to me

[Lhorke The First]

I decided to kitbash a dark apostle a couple of days ago.

 

 

 

I also created my chaos lord, Ursus the Bloodborn. I guess he doesn't look all that imposing, but he will do until I find more interesting bits. I didn't want him to be a terminator lord because in my fluff he was an expert in armored warfare during the Great Crusade and Horus Heresy and he and his legionnaires absconded with a large number of the XII Legion's armored fighting vehicles after the battle at Skalathrax. In the present timeline he still leads a warband with large number of tanks and other armored vehicles. He uses a Spartan as his command tank. Therefore, as a tank commander he does not need the added bulk of tactical dreadnought armor.

 

 

 

Additionally, I assembled some World Eater chosen based on the FAQ rule changes, giving them all melee weapons.