RedFox Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I wish they would just highlight and compare the point drops Panzer 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWolfLord Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Don't have anything to hand to compare but how are ad mech looking in terms of changes? I know Cawl is up but what about everything else? Slight reductions for Karaphrons, Vanguard, Rangers, Electropriests, Infiltrators, Dominus and Enginseer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWolfLord Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I'm gobsmacked at the points increase for the FW Space Marine Lords of War, they were already massively overpriced compared to the Baneblade variants and now wow, they aren't even close. 2000 points plus wargear for a Stormbird? Fellblades and Falchions are more than double a Shadowsword. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Â Don't have anything to hand to compare but how are ad mech looking in terms of changes? I know Cawl is up but what about everything else?Slight reductions for Karaphrons, Vanguard, Rangers, Electropriests, Infiltrators, Dominus and Enginseer Phwaor. Thats awesome. Especially on the Kataphron! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Death Guard and Primaris are the winners. Â Inceptors with Assault Bolters and Intercessors are excellent now. Â Also, 5 Agressors for 195? Pretty good! I'm gobsmacked at the points increase for the FW Space Marine Lords of War, they were already massively overpriced compared to the Baneblade variants and now wow, they aren't even close. 2000 points plus wargear for a Stormbird? Fellblades and Falchions are more than double a Shadowsword. Suddenly the new Astraeus is the only one worth looking at. Power Levels remain unchanged, funny enough. Frater Cornelius and Slave to Darkness 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 What's the best route to register discontent with this? Facebook i guess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arentius Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Wulfen dropping 9 points a model Murderfang 30 points drop Njal in termi armour down 15 Runepriests....increase? I don't get it  Great time to be a wolf but even I find this questionable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWolfLord Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Death Guard and Primaris are the winners. Inceptors with Assault Bolters and Intercessors are excellent now. Also, 5 Agressors for 195? Pretty good! I'm gobsmacked at the points increase for the FW Space Marine Lords of War, they were already massively overpriced compared to the Baneblade variants and now wow, they aren't even close. 2000 points plus wargear for a Stormbird? Fellblades and Falchions are more than double a Shadowsword. Suddenly the new Astraeus is the only one worth looking at. Power Levels remain unchanged, funny enough. I'd be fine if GW Lords of War were hit as hard but its only FW Lords of War that have been hit. Wulfen dropping 9 points a model Murderfang 30 points drop Njal in termi armour down 15 Runepriests....increase? I don't get it  Great time to be a wolf but even I find this questionable Why? They are removing the option for cheaper Smites and Njal wasn't a good choice compared to 2 Rune Priests, now he'll be taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 For my fellow DG'ers: Â Deathshroud Terminators 35 (-15)Defiler 140 (-12)Lord of Contagion 100 (-20)Noxious Blightbringer 58 (-5)Plague Marines 17 (-2)Plagueburst Crawler 100 (-10)Sorcerer Terminator 120 (-20)Tallyman 55 (-5) Blight launcher 10 (-4)Force Axe 10 (-6)Force Stave 8 (-6)Force Sword 8 (-4)Helbrute Fist single/pair 40/50 (-0/-30)Predator Autocannon 40 (-9) Â Just to show the reductions for those who don't have their codex at hand Shockmaster, Ishagu, Plaguecaster and 7 others 10 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finkmilkana Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Wait, did they increase purestrain genestealers to 15 points, but leave tyranid genestealer unchanged? What’s the point of that? The more I read this list, the stranger it gets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheWolfLord Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Wulfen dropping 9 points a model Murderfang 30 points drop Njal in termi armour down 15 Runepriests....increase? I don't get it  Great time to be a wolf but even I find this questionable Rune Priests have also had a small points drop on their weapons and a massive drop on a Psychic Hood. Arentius 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) For my fellow DG'ers: Â Deathshroud Terminators 35 (-15) Defiler 140 (-12) Lord of Contagion 100 (-20) Noxious Blightbringer 58 (-5) Plague Marines 17 (-2) Plagueburst Crawler 100 (-10) Sorcerer Terminator 120 (-20) Tallyman 55 (-5) Â Blight launcher 10 (-4) Force Axe 10 (-6) Force Stave 8 (-6) Force Sword 8 (-4) Helbrute Fist single/pair 40/50 (-0/-30) Predator Autocannon 40 (-9) Â Just to show the reductions for those who don't have their codex at hand Legend :D Damn I'll easily have 100-200 points in my 2k list extra from the point changes so I'm very happy Edited November 25, 2017 by Plaguecaster Marshal Loss 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Â For my fellow DG'ers: Â Deathshroud Terminators 35 (-15) Defiler 140 (-12) Lord of Contagion 100 (-20) Noxious Blightbringer 58 (-5) Plague Marines 17 (-2) Plagueburst Crawler 100 (-10) Sorcerer Terminator 120 (-20) Tallyman 55 (-5) Â Blight launcher 10 (-4) Force Axe 10 (-6) Force Stave 8 (-6) Force Sword 8 (-4) Helbrute Fist single/pair 40/50 (-0/-30) Predator Autocannon 40 (-9) Â Just to show the reductions for those who don't have their codex at hand Legend :D Damn I'll easily have 100-200 points in my 2k list extra from the point changes so I'm very happy Halfway to a free Mortarion :-P DG have benefited well from CA. Chaos FW units took a beating. Glad to see the Giant Spawn double in cost. Plaguecaster and Marshal Loss 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arentius Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017  Death Guard and Primaris are the winners. Inceptors with Assault Bolters and Intercessors are excellent now. Also, 5 Agressors for 195? Pretty good! I'm gobsmacked at the points increase for the FW Space Marine Lords of War, they were already massively overpriced compared to the Baneblade variants and now wow, they aren't even close. 2000 points plus wargear for a Stormbird? Fellblades and Falchions are more than double a Shadowsword. Suddenly the new Astraeus is the only one worth looking at. Power Levels remain unchanged, funny enough. I'd be fine if GW Lords of War were hit as hard but its only FW Lords of War that have been hit. Wulfen dropping 9 points a model Murderfang 30 points drop Njal in termi armour down 15 Runepriests....increase? I don't get it  Great time to be a wolf but even I find this questionable Why? They are removing the option for cheaper Smites and Njal wasn't a good choice compared to 2 Rune Priests, now he'll be taken.  I guess, I never really thought of it like that, I always compared it to a Rune priest in Term armour at which point Njall was better cause he got all powers....Doesn't explain the wulfen :P My unit of 8 (7 hammers and shields) have dropped by around 100 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Withershadow Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Cheaper autocannons and power fists is very welcome in my Guard, although kinda cranky the former doesn’t help the hydra since it has a set cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchverr Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Salamander command vehicle went up by 25 points.... I think whomever wrote this either really doesnt like the guard or really doesnt like FW and guard lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silas7 Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 I'm so lost abadizzle 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra Posted November 25, 2017 Author Share Posted November 25, 2017 Wait, did they increase purestrain genestealers to 15 points, but leave tyranid genestealer unchanged? What’s the point of that? The more I read this list, the stranger it gets. The same unit in two different armies will sometimes see a difference in cost due to things like how it fint into the list or what role it fills. Panzer, SCOTT_FRANCIS and Plaguecaster 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plaguecaster Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited)   For my fellow DG'ers:  Deathshroud Terminators 35 (-15) Defiler 140 (-12) Lord of Contagion 100 (-20) Noxious Blightbringer 58 (-5) Plague Marines 17 (-2) Plagueburst Crawler 100 (-10) Sorcerer Terminator 120 (-20) Tallyman 55 (-5)  Blight launcher 10 (-4) Force Axe 10 (-6) Force Stave 8 (-6) Force Sword 8 (-4) Helbrute Fist single/pair 40/50 (-0/-30) Predator Autocannon 40 (-9)  Just to show the reductions for those who don't have their codex at hand Legend :D Damn I'll easily have 100-200 points in my 2k list extra from the point changes so I'm very happyHalfway to a free Mortarion :-P DG have benefited well from CA. Chaos FW units took a beating. Glad to see the Giant Spawn double in cost. Nah just means I can squeeze yet another Blighthauler into my list :D yeah seems rather weird that a lot of the FW stuff got massive increases for them like the Malefic lords only for Primaris a Psykers to go down in price about the same price Malefic lords originally were???? Seems bloody stupid  Though I see Contemptors and butcher cannons got even more cheaper so that's awesome Edited November 25, 2017 by Plaguecaster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Apart from GK razors and acs getting the exact same points increases. Â Becuase we use them in the same manner as Space Marines and have the same other options to use instead. Â Oh wait... Â /shakes fist at GW Ishagu and Plaguecaster 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cryptix Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017   Wait, did they increase purestrain genestealers to 15 points, but leave tyranid genestealer unchanged? What’s the point of that? The more I read this list, the stranger it gets. The same unit in two different armies will sometimes see a difference in cost due to things like how it fint into the list or what role it fills.I'm pretty sure its because Hivestrains have Cult Ambush. Interrogator-Chaplain Ezra and SCOTT_FRANCIS 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 So the Fellblade and Falchion increased in points. They must be getting some extreme buffs to justify that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 Apart from GK razors and acs getting the exact same points increases. Â Becuase we use them in the same manner as Space Marines and have the same other options to use instead. Â Oh wait... Â /shakes fist at GW Man I am so disappointed about GK. The Termies needed a 15 point drop each, not 5! Â Strikes need to come doen,EVERYTHING needs to come down. Â Instead, the army I JUST finished building for 8th is now over the limit because my GK Raven and solitary Razorback got a hike :-/ Gentlemanloser, Panzer and TheFinisher4Ever 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gentlemanloser Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 (edited) GK techmarines still costing over double regular ones... Â And GKT at 41 ppm while normal termies are 26... Â GW have no clue. This is a sick joke. Edited November 25, 2017 by Gentlemanloser the jeske and Ishagu 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted November 25, 2017 Share Posted November 25, 2017 GK techmarines still costing over double regular ones... Â And GKT at 41 ppm while normal termies are 26... Â GW have no clue. This is a sick joke. Yes. Id say 5 points more for the psychic power and troop slot. Not 15! Gentlemanloser 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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