FlamingDeth Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 No sacred standards? Well that sounds like they skipped a beat then. If they sold sacred standard transfer sheets that fit the normal banners and included rules for them again that’d be extra money for like ten minutes of work. Also means that one of the things that differentiate greenwing from codex marines is missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helycon Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 I think they feel our different standards are on the DW and RW ancient. But we'll see what we have for relics soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkinstein Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 from here https://www.dakkadak...420/743764.page Very nice! They have deathwing keyword The last power....it is ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helycon Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 from here https://www.dakkadak...420/743764.page Very nice! They have deathwing keyword The last power....it is ok... Sounds like something DWK would enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmonkeyman Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Shame about the azrael nerf . He was the only truest competitive thing from the index. Hopefully we get some cool things to make up for it . Maybe a more exciting play style FarFromSam 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkinstein Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 GW said "Grim Resolve is great for units of Terminators in particular – you’ll be free to take 10-man squads without having to worry about the cost of morale.“ on Warhammer Community. But from pics, DW and RW don't have Grim Resolve at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helycon Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 GW said "Grim Resolve is great for units of Terminators in particular – you’ll be free to take 10-man squads without having to worry about the cost of morale.“ on Warhammer Community. But from pics, DW and RW don't have Grim Resolve at all...Maybe it's army-wide. We'll have to see the entry in the codex to see who it applies to. If it's anyone with the Dark Angels keyword whilst having a battleforged army, even Forgeworld units will benefit, which is a massive deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orkinstein Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 GW said "Grim Resolve is great for units of Terminators in particular – you’ll be free to take 10-man squads without having to worry about the cost of morale.“ on Warhammer Community. But from pics, DW and RW don't have Grim Resolve at all...Maybe it's army-wide. We'll have to see the entry in the codex to see who it applies to. If it's anyone with the Dark Angels keyword whilst having a battleforged army, even Forgeworld units will benefit, which is a massive deal. That will be cool! Hope our vehicles will benefit from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFinisher4Ever Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) Grim Resolve is a chapter tactic, you get it for having a full detachment of Dark Angels. It wont show up on the profiles. However, its still irrelevant for Deathwing since Inner Circle makes them fearless. Also, being a marine chapter tactic, it will only affect infantry, bikes and dreadnoughts. Edited December 8, 2017 by TheFinisher4Ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowCore67 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Grim Resolve is a chapter tactic, you get it for having a full detachment of Dark Angels. It wont show up on the profiles. However, its still irrelevant for Deathwing since Inner Circle makes them fearless. In chapter focus they mention grim resolve's morale rule being very useful for terminators. So that kind of implies that inner circle doesn't give them fearless anymore Darkwrath121 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RayJ Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Do we know if the rumor of DW command being a single squad came true? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkwrath121 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Grim Resolve is a chapter tactic, you get it for having a full detachment of Dark Angels. It wont show up on the profiles. However, its still irrelevant for Deathwing since Inner Circle makes them fearless.In chapter focus they mention grim resolve's morale rule being very useful for terminators. So that kind of implies that inner circle doesn't give them fearless anymoreThat seems to have been a mistake (as was DA getting the Stormhawk, it isn't in the codex). In that the team said that Inner Circle gives fearless :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainCaveman87 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 If I remember correctly some of the relics where Shroud of heroes relic is - 1 to hit Mace of redemption replaces a power maul +3 str, - 3ap and d3 damage Eye of the unseen was - 2 leadership bubble Apparently shroud stacks with darkshroud for a - 2 to hit with aversion can make something - 3 mwahaha Captain Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elios Harg Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Grim Resolve isn't useless for Deathwing as it still gives re-rolls if they do not move (useful for CMLs sitting on objectives). Similarly, it helps out Ravenwing with the morale aspect, though, they are much less likely to use the re-rolls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helycon Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) Grim Resolve is a chapter tactic, you get it for having a full detachment of Dark Angels. It wont show up on the profiles. However, its still irrelevant for Deathwing since Inner Circle makes them fearless. Also, being a marine chapter tactic, it will only affect infantry, bikes and dreadnoughts.Maybe, but they haven't stated it anywhere. The traits/fleet adaptions what have you, ARE army wide. While I reckon you are correct, I'll wait and see the entry in the Blood Angels codex first :) Just quickly checked a bid that reviewed the BA index,seems you are indeed correct. Edited December 8, 2017 by Helycon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 pre-order is up on the NZ site In the preview page on the ravenwing it name some of the successors 1st and 2nd companies, pretty cool. Bit difficult to make out, but i think the Angels of Vengeance 1st company is the Dreadwing (i guess Farith Redloss was their 1st chapter master then :D), and their 2nd company is the Raptorwing. Its says the Angels of Redemtions 1st and 2nd companies are referred to as the Redwings i think. robofish7591 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syphid Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 pre-order is up on the NZ site In the preview page on the ravenwing it name some of the successors 1st and 2nd companies, pretty cool. Bit difficult to make out, but i think the Angels of Vengeance 1st company is the Dreadwing (i guess Farith Redloss was their 1st chapter master then :D), and their 2nd company is the Raptorwing. Its says the Angels of Redemtions 1st and 2nd companies are referred to as the Redwings i think. And the Angels of Absolution Inner Circle is called the "Hidden Brotherhood" :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robofish7591 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 ...Its says the Angels of Redemtions 1st and 2nd companies are referred to as the Redwings i think. Is their fortress monastery located in Detroit? Stoic Raptor, Syphid, Brother Bish and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoic Raptor Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Speed of the Raven should make RW happy. Forgive me, I'm not doing a screen capture, but 1 CP and you can advance, shoot, and charge in the same turn. Goodness that is really good. Do you still take the -1 to hit from advancing? Its on Facebook, the stratagem card suggests nothing about any negatives. It also says nothing about overriding the normal rules for Advancing, aside from Charges. I'd say without an explicit exception, the normal rules would apply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Limited Edition pre-ordered, I'm such a sucker. :lol: Syphid, robofish7591, Brother Captain Arkley and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaeza94 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 Limited Edition pre-ordered, I'm such a sucker. you and i both brother Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvnisher Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 What comes with the limited edition? And I’m assuming I have to wait till tomorrow in the US. jbaeza94 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaeza94 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) its just a fancy cover and nice paperhttps://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Codex-Dark-Angels-hb-2017-collectors https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Codex-Dark-Angels-hb-2017-ENG they do have a collection too, that includes DA dice and data cards. it comes in both book versions https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Deathwing-Honours-Collection-2017-ENG https://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/Dark-Angels-Gamers-Collection-2017-ENG Edited December 8, 2017 by jbaeza94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pvnisher Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) Thanks. I have the last 2 I’ll have to see how bad I want this lol. Edited December 8, 2017 by Pvnisher jbaeza94 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbaeza94 Posted December 8, 2017 Share Posted December 8, 2017 (edited) 125 for Special Edition with dice and data cards 85 for Normal Edition with dice and data cards 80 for Special Edition 40 For Normal Edition Ill be getting the special edition. Cant help it. sarted with DA 7th, then Skitarri 7th, Cult Mech 7th, Nids 8th, and in a few hours DA 8th Edited December 8, 2017 by jbaeza94 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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