JamesI Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 Doubled in points? Really??yep. But the base cost for the furioso is 42 points cheaper. And Blood Talons look awesome this codex. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xerxus Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 A real shame that they didn't touch the Terminator Ancient, it is practically strictly worse than a Chaplain in Terminator Armour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Frag cannon is dead anyway. Completely garbage compared to its 7th ed kill-a-whole-unit-of-wraithguard-or-lootas-glory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templarphoenix Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 So as a Flesh Tearer player...we share everythings like warlord traits, units rules, strategies...etc with normal BA except special chars and relics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) So as a Flesh Tearer player...we share everythings like warlord traits, units rules, strategies...etc with normal BA except special chars and relics? Yeah afaik it's only the relics successors don't get except for that one sword which isn't even particularly good. I suggest talking with your opponent about ignoring that silly rule tbh. Edited December 3, 2017 by sfPanzer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrimsonExarch Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 So as a Flesh Tearer player...we share everythings like warlord traits, units rules, strategies...etc with normal BA except special chars and relics? Yup Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 So as a Flesh Tearer player...we share everythings like warlord traits, units rules, strategies...etc with normal BA except special chars and relics? Yup You are only locked out though really if you take Seth. Otherwise you can run them as Keyword BA for all intents and purposes. JamesI 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 So as a Flesh Tearer player...we share everythings like warlord traits, units rules, strategies...etc with normal BA except special chars and relics? Yup You are only locked out though really if you take Seth. Otherwise you can run them as Keyword BA for all intents and purposes. This. if you want Seth, you have to accept not getting the other characters or the good relics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Were frag cannons even good before the points hike? Our dreads seems so handicapped compared to long range shooty dreads... How do you even get into frag cannon range without a drop pod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesI Posted December 3, 2017 Author Share Posted December 3, 2017 I think Frag Cannons were good in 7th. But that was mainly due to cheap drop pods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Oh yeah I loved them in 7th! I just can't figure how they are useful in anyway now... walking a furiosos up the board with a frag cannon just sounds like an awful idea to me, but it's kinda all we got besides a storm raven... like it seems worthless and I'm not trying to be overly negative, I just don't understand GW's thought process for most things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
templarphoenix Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 So as a Flesh Tearer player...we share everythings like warlord traits, units rules, strategies...etc with normal BA except special chars and relics? Yup You are only locked out though really if you take Seth. Otherwise you can run them as Keyword BA for all intents and purposes. Ouch, I play BA because of Seth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 The alternative is you take a small detatchment of flesh tearers to be Seth and his bodyguard so they are affected by his aura, but the rest of your stuff is BA in its own detatchment. Can get messy though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Ouch, I play BA because of Seth... Well, technically you play Flesh Tearers because of Seth, which blocked you from taking BA characters, so little has changed barring losing some not so useful flesh Tearers relics that no one took anyway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 It's possible I've missed it, but has Tycho received any melee potential? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damon Nightman Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I think someone said -2ap, str user Morticon 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Yup. Dead Man's Hand got -2AP :D good move GW vahouth and Blindhamster 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Cheers. Charlo 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Anyone taking the Chaplain Dread from Forgeworld? :-D Riot Earp and Grazcruzk 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolemai Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Anyone taking the Chaplain Dread from Forgeworld? :-D Has he come down in points? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendent Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Yup. Dead Man's Hand got -2AP good move GW What? That's awesome! He was already really well costed for babysitting backline units and with a buff to his AP for assault he'll be decent at counter charging. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Woo, means my lovingly made model is still usable, he should have had a rule that didnt allow either version of him in an army that included primaris though tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 (edited) Woo, means my lovingly made model is still usable, he should have had a rule that didnt allow either version of him in an army that included primaris though tbh. If I ever get Intercessors I'll be sure to have golden Tycho lead them into battle :lol: *I'm all for Tycho being dropped from the Codex, to be sure. Edited December 3, 2017 by NTaW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 I can't help but feel "meh" over it by all. Like I am still getting the codex but I'm just not excited. What are your concerns, buddy? Is this a legit question or are you trying to make it seem like I am being a douche for not gushing over the codex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbo1701 Posted December 3, 2017 Share Posted December 3, 2017 Thanks jamesI for all the info. If I may add a couple of questions to the constant tirade you are facing: 1. Death company loadouts (mine all have bolters still) looks like chainswords/melee and various pistols are better now - are bolters a viable option at all or shall I start removing arms? 2. Are any of he following present as options or are all index only now: sang. Novitiate with jp, champion with jp, ancient with jp, techmarine with jp. I think you stated earlier in the thread that priests and comp veterans are foot only now as expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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