Withershadow Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Would the banner work against overheats? That just kills you rather than dealing wounds, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pendent Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Would the banner work against overheats? That just kills you rather than dealing wounds, right? It doesn't even deal mortal wounds- you just remove models so there would be no save. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 6, 2017 Share Posted December 6, 2017 Would the banner work against overheats? That just kills you rather than dealing wounds, right? Only if the Overheat rule says it deals a Mortal wound. It won't work against Overheat rules that say the model is slain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tedzilla Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Maybe you guys can weigh in on this, but I cant see a single reason to run a Baal Pred over a Stormhawk Interceptor. Thoughts? Remtek 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NTaW Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 ^ I was just looking at our two "new" flyers and totally thought the same thing. They're more Baal Predator than Baal Predators are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesi40k Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Maybe you guys can weigh in on this, but I cant see a single reason to run a Baal Pred over a Stormhawk Interceptor. Thoughts? Kill shot if you run three preds, the ability to hold and capture objectives (lucifer engines help here), and the ability to remain stationary and not suffer -1 to shooting. All I can think of really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Fair points tho the ability to capture and hold objectives is a really minor one considering that the opponent needs only two models there to prevent you from holding it. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morticon Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Maybe you guys can weigh in on this, but I cant see a single reason to run a Baal Pred over a Stormhawk Interceptor. Thoughts? Baal pred is the single biggest ball drop by GW with the dex imho :( So, yeah, no. I think thats a good call on your side. tedzilla 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Maybe you guys can weigh in on this, but I cant see a single reason to run a Baal Pred over a Stormhawk Interceptor. Thoughts? Kill shot if you run three preds, the ability to hold and capture objectives (lucifer engines help here), and the ability to remain stationary and not suffer -1 to shooting. Stormtalon is another option if objectives are a concern as it can drop into hover mode if you wish. Also has a similar loadout. Not quite as tough as the Pred/Stormhawk but better shooting at ground targets thanks to "Strafing Run". Hits on a 2+ if you drop into hover mode and remain stationary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 ^ I was just looking at our two "new" flyers and totally thought the same thing. They're more Baal Predator than Baal Predators are. BRB. *glues wings and spare Dante model to Baal Predator* Charlo, Silverson, NTaW and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Tycho the Lost new "dead mans hand" (Melee S:user AP-2 Dd3) Cpt Tycho also gains dead man's hand [/indent] Is it me or is Captain Tycho actually a pretty good choice now? He costs only a few points more than a regular SM Captain with combi-melta but gets a 2+ armour save, the improved "Blood Song" and the Dead Man's Hand. If you are looking for a cheapish Buff-mander to accompany infantry on foot, Tycho looks the business. Run him with a squad of Hellblasters for example and he boosts their firepower nicely while providing some decent CC punch if your opponent tries to assault them. Chaplain Gunzhard 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Actionmike Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) Maybe you guys can weigh in on this, but I cant see a single reason to run a Baal Pred over a Stormhawk Interceptor. Thoughts? Kill shot if you run three preds, the ability to hold and capture objectives (lucifer engines help here), and the ability to remain stationary and not suffer -1 to shooting. Stormtalon is another option if objectives are a concern as it can drop into hover mode if you wish. Also has a similar loadout. Not quite as tough as the Pred/Stormhawk but better shooting at ground targets thanks to "Strafing Run". Hits on a 2+ if you drop into hover mode and remain stationary. unfortunately, hover mode or not, flyers can't hold objectives. I believe the rule is written as models with the flyer battlefield role cant hold objectives. So even it was parked on the marker with its engines off it still cant hold the objective. which sucks. Edited December 7, 2017 by Actionmike Pendent 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Tycho the Lost new "dead mans hand" (Melee S:user AP-2 Dd3) Cpt Tycho also gains dead man's hand [/indent] Is it me or is Captain Tycho actually a pretty good choice now? He costs only a few points more than a regular SM Captain with combi-melta but gets a 2+ armour save, the improved "Blood Song" and the Dead Man's Hand. If you are looking for a cheapish Buff-mander to accompany infantry on foot, Tycho looks the business. Run him with a squad of Hellblasters for example and he boosts their firepower nicely while providing some decent CC punch if your opponent tries to assault them. Somewhere else it got said that the dead mans hand damage is only 1, not d3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Tycho the Lost new "dead mans hand" (Melee S:user AP-2 Dd3) Cpt Tycho also gains dead man's hand [/indent] Is it me or is Captain Tycho actually a pretty good choice now? He costs only a few points more than a regular SM Captain with combi-melta but gets a 2+ armour save, the improved "Blood Song" and the Dead Man's Hand. If you are looking for a cheapish Buff-mander to accompany infantry on foot, Tycho looks the business. Run him with a squad of Hellblasters for example and he boosts their firepower nicely while providing some decent CC punch if your opponent tries to assault them. He was good in the Index. Now he's great. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Tycho the Lost new "dead mans hand" (Melee S:user AP-2 Dd3) Cpt Tycho also gains dead man's hand [/indent] Is it me or is Captain Tycho actually a pretty good choice now? He costs only a few points more than a regular SM Captain with combi-melta but gets a 2+ armour save, the improved "Blood Song" and the Dead Man's Hand. If you are looking for a cheapish Buff-mander to accompany infantry on foot, Tycho looks the business. Run him with a squad of Hellblasters for example and he boosts their firepower nicely while providing some decent CC punch if your opponent tries to assault them. Somewhere else it got said that the dead mans hand damage is only 1, not d3. It is only D1 but thats still normal power weapon damage. He's honestly one of the best HQs now for his points. I'll be using him a lot. Karhedron 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xenith Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) Tycho Tycho dead mans hand If there's one thing I like more than my HQ's chopping people up with swords, it's chopping them up with their bare hands. Watch Captain Artemis is going to make a beautiful Tycho stand-in. Edited December 7, 2017 by Xenith Charlo, ThatOneMarshal, Blindhamster and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reyner Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Watch Captain Artemis is going to make a beautiful Tycho stand-in.GENIUS! That is an awesome idea! Xenith 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raychu Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Guys!!! i need your help. what is the cost for a naked techmarine in the BA codex? I have a game on saturday and i need to know if I could have a third detachment, meaning I need a cheap HQ... and the cost for a naked techmarine lost 13 pts between the index and the codex. Therefore I need to know if the BA will get them at the same price as the SM. Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 (edited) I'm not sure the answer to this, Raychu, but be advised a "naked" Techmarine still has to pay for a servo-harness arm and, i believe, Power Axe, minimum. Edited December 7, 2017 by 9x19 Parabellum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raychu Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I'm not sure the answer to this, Raychu, but be advised a "naked" Techmarine still has to pay for a servo-harness and, i believe, Power Axe, minimum. yes I know about the equipment, but cost for the power axe or the servo arm (the harness is a more expensive option) didn't change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I'm not sure the answer to this, Raychu, but be advised a "naked" Techmarine still has to pay for a servo-harness and, i believe, Power Axe, minimum. Can he take a Servo arm rather than the full harness? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonmole Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Quick question - I know the Sanguinary Priesr doesn’t have a jump pack option in the codex, but does the Librarian? Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 I'm not sure the answer to this, Raychu, but be advised a "naked" Techmarine still has to pay for a servo-harness and, i believe, Power Axe, minimum. Can he take a Servo arm rather than the full harness? Yes, that is correct. Sorry, I meant arm (vs. harness). post has been edited Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raychu Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 Quick question - I know the Sanguinary Priesr doesn’t have a jump pack option in the codex, but does the Librarian? Cheers! look at the latest Tabletop tactic battle report, the sanguinary priest has a jump pack. as for the librarian, I guess he'll be able to have it as well as the chapter approved changed his cost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neonmole Posted December 7, 2017 Share Posted December 7, 2017 The TTT BattRep was using the index entry. Unfortunately the Priest definitely doesn’t have the option in the codex. But does the Lib?... Obviously you can always use the index, but I prefer not to... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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