The difference between 30K and 40K Wolves

[Kelborn]

Hail brothers,

 

with the coming release of Ashes of Prospero, we will have 30K Wolves meeting 40K Wolves.

As it was revealed, the 30K Wolves don't feel that comfortable with their 40K brethren for several reasons.

 

I think that we might have the same situation when Primaris Marines (who are basically recruited from the 30K and Scouring era) encounter their brothers.

 

So what exactly differs them? I will write down some notes, which came into my mind while thinking about it. Maybe you guys can add something to it? :)

 

 

30K Wolves:

- The Emperor's executioners theme

- More like Vikings

- Somehow ruthless, merciless, don't care for anyone

- Hunters, chasing down their targets

- Wolves as companions

- They don't care what others think of them

 

40K Wolves

- Mankind's defenders

- The Wolfy Mc'Wolfensson syndrome

- Care for mortals, even come at blows with the Inquisition, etc.

- Don't care what others think of them

- Came to blows with other factions

- Hunters, but somehow more like predators

 

IMHO, there are some important things in which both incarnations differ from each other and which could lead to wranglings.

 

I'm curious if we will see more of this "conflict" in the future. Maybe by the Wolfspear or the 13th Great Company?

 

And in the end, if or when Russ comes back? What might happen? In his Primarch novel, we saw that Russ in the end started to see himself and his Legion as the defenders of man, just like the Emperor had always wanted them to be. Does that automatically mean that he is ok with his 40K sons? Can he even be a defender or will he ever be the chasing axe, always dealing the killing blow to the foes of the Imperium? May he have left due to the change of his Legion? Maybe he felt misguided in this "new" Imperium without his brothers and the Allfather?

 

What do you think?

 

Fenrys Hjolda!

Kelborn

[Kasper_Hawser]

Hoo boy, you have no idea the can of worms you just opened. Even within we Wolves, opinion differs wildly on reconciling 30K wolves to 40K wolves. Heck, even reconciling 30K wolves pre-Prospero to 30K wolves post-Prospero is a challenge.

 

Reason of the contradiction even in 30K, as you yourself mentioned, after Prospero, Leman Russ found himself alone and bereft of allies due to the nature of his legion and himself, and wanted the Wolves to change into something OTHER than executioners. In the long run, I believe this resulted in the current 40K incarnation of "Defenders of man" for lack of better term. Personally despite Logan's efforts, the Wolves still come across as dicks and hypocrites SOMETIMES, in regards to protecting innocents.Then again, no chapter is perfect and they would hardly be the only ones who go against their own creed.

 

We're still assuming that 40K Wolves are going with the image of Defenders of man. The events of Wrath of Magnus has severely mauled the Chapter in spirit and body, to the point where the grim and cheerful viking is now gone, seemingly replaced by brooding vikings who can finally see Ragnarok coming.

 

The Wolves had to declare exterminatus on one of their own protectorates Midgardia, and allow the Inquisition to take away a lot of the Fenrisian population. Whatever "good" image they wished to uphold before Wrath of Magnus, is probably gone as Logan tragically, no longer had the muscle or stomach to stand by his principles and was forced to "mature" into the typical grimdark Chapter Master. Damn you GW.

 

 

Also regarding the upcoming Ashes of Prospero, BEWARE GAV THORPE! His plots often makes little sense, and I'm aghast he is writing about the Wolves. This is the same bugger who convinced me for 10 years that Dark Angels and the Lion are closet traitors when in fact, they never have been and never will be. 

 

In addition, he will only take into account his own logic and storyline, and will make little effort in reconciling to the works of other authors. And given this is his first book on Space Wolves, God help us, he might conjure up new confusing fluff. CHRIS WRIGHT, ADB! NOOOOO! COME BACK TO US!