Steel Company Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 As much as I love real dice, I've got mine locked away due to small children in the house and a lack of wanting to lose them... so for me, it's going to be a dice roller program.... hopefully tzeentch will not be influencing it in any ways.... not that I trust the Machine Cult much more.... Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5027904 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 Mazer - I have spoken to Dos and splitting the kill-team in two is partly to make things run twice as fast. My thought so far is that, broadly speaking, a combat would go like this: - I roll initiative for everyone (otherwise I have to wait for ~7 posts, compile the initiative order, then people see if they want to roll fate.) - I present the initiative order, and people decide if they wish to re-roll using fate. - I set a time limit for people to choose their actions, otherwise I will choose something that makes sense. - Players post choosing their actions and a backup (or giving me any other information they need.) When they choose, they roll dice for their primary action. (At this point, it is important for the players to make me aware of any skills that might impact, or else they will be ignored.) - I then work through the initiative order and make things make as much sense as possible. Round over, I can update and people can choose again. My worry is that otherwise we wait for player A to post saying what they want to do. I then tell them what they need to roll. They then post with their roll. I then post telling them if it's successful or not. We then wait for Player B to post... something that takes five minutes on the tabletop could legitimately take weeks on the forum, with 80% of the players waiting doing nothing at any one time. The downside is that we might have some situations where, say, Player A and B both want to shoot a target. Player A kills it, so Player B's action doesn't make as much sense. I will then check Player B's post for their backup action. Much of my job is in smoothing things out. It also won't be as much of an issue when we have larger combats and different characters are fighting different enemies - then, you can get busy doing your own thing. I welcome your thoughts, but it strikes me this is largely the most efficient system given the limitations of forum-based roleplay and the fact that we're all busy people. I Steel Company, Dosjetka, Mazer Rackham and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5027907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Sounds good to me. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5027911 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Once everyone has posted their action, I'll re-post Tyber's with some alterations based on the actions that he witnessed at the end.... other wise it feels out of place. To everyone that has / will post, I am really enjoying the uniqueness of character to our chapters and characters to this, it gives insight to each other. Mazer Rackham and Xin Ceithan 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5027931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 Thanks, SC - I was very much going to ask you to do the same thing. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5027935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 Awesome upgrade to your original post SC. Any feedback on my proposal for combat? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5028010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 CM, thanks for the feedback on my updated post. As to combat, I like the idea that you put forth, this will be interesting to see how things go. Commissar Molotov 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5028018 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I like the ideas you put forward regarding speeding up combat. This will probably also affect things like the time difference between some of us nicely, I guess. Commissar Molotov 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5028062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Other ways Ive seen it done is you divide it into chunks like: Fast PCs (good init) - Fast NPCs - Slow PCs - Slow NPCs but you let everybody post at their leisure then the GM can determine the logical sequence of events. Or just as simply as the group rolls for init and if one member beats the npcs it goes PCs - NPCs otherwise NPCs - PCs Your solution should work just fine. Commissar Molotov 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5028066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Thanks everyone for the awesome posts and the useful feedback. I aim to have a post up about twelve hours from now. This one is a bit of an undertaking as we move from narrative time to structured time, so please bear with me! Steel Company and Dosjetka 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5028334 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 Hey guys, I'm sorry but I'm not going to be able to get an update done tonight and tomorrow I am at Warhammer World. The update will be up on Sunday. You can continue to roleplay in the IC thread if you wish. Nineswords and Steel Company 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5028693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Hey guys, I'm sorry but I'm not going to be able to get an update done tonight and tomorrow I am at Warhammer World. The update will be up on Sunday. You can continue to roleplay in the IC thread if you wish. Have a pint at Bugman's for me. I really enjoyed my trip there a few years back... besides this works better for me, my son's fifth birthday party is Saturday, with grandparents coming over on Sunday night so I'm a touch busy this weekend. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5028698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 No probs, Mol. Enjoy WHW. :tu: Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5028771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 Warhammer World was great, and update is up. Feel free to strategise in here! I will give you until Tuesday to make your first actions! Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5029618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Does Vaidan just sit back and twiddle his thumbs? :P Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5029640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) CM how high is the roof in the hold? And how tall are the boxes around the heavy stubber units? Got to love jump packs and three dimensional combat spaces... Edit: Also how heavy are the containers? Edited March 11, 2018 by Steel Company Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5029651 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) KILL THEM ALL. In other news, if Greysight kneels/or steps back a bit, Thorvald can do more damage there in crossfire. Or everyone could deploy right in order to take advantage of my fusillade. Just saying MR. Edited March 11, 2018 by Mazer Rackham Steel Company 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5029656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xin Ceithan Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Really appreciate the work you put in here, Mol. Especially on the pics and the grid here. I'm ok with my imitative, I have to wait for those armored blokes in front anyway. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5029679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 Atratus would be a point higher (mk6 armour) and will act depending on room for jump-pack usage assuming he is wearing one for this combat test. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5029684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 I will mention that Solastion does have the Lightning Reflexes talent from his Solo Mode ability which doubles his Agility bonus for determining Initiative so he’d currently have 6+4 for a total of 10 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5029686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 Hi guys, thanks for the positive feedback. I appear to have already got a rule wrong - I didn't realise that the spent fate point gave you an automatic 10 to initiative rather than a re-roll. Thanks for that, Mazer - I will amend my post. I have added details regarding the cargo space you are in - the ceiling is about 15 metres high, and the crates in this room are about a metre tall, so waist height for the servitors and slightly less than that for you. Weight is... well, you'd have to see if you could lift or throw them, I suppose. Slips and A.T., thanks for letting me know - I've looked up both of those rules. A.T., is that +10 Ag included on your stat sheet? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5029692 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 (edited) No worries Mol - the Fate Point thing is more player-centric and Fate Points can do quite a bit - so players must remember what they can do - the GM has enough on their plate! I would also like to take a second to echo those above in the work with the maps and diagrams. Top drawer stuff. MR. Edited March 11, 2018 by Mazer Rackham Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5029718 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 Mazer, I would rule that you can see all the targets that you've mentioned. What did you mean when you said "RF not confirmed"? Also, and this is probably tiredness - but if your required roll was 72 and you rolled 29, then you passed by 43. Isn't that 4 Degrees of Success (and so 4 extra hits)? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5029745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted March 11, 2018 Share Posted March 11, 2018 CM, now that I've had a chance to really look at everything (thanks to my kids being down for a nap), like Solastion, when in solo mode Tyber's chapter solo ability lets him count as having lightning reflexes, this would push his initiative up by 4 more points. Everything else looks good so far though I'm happy to say. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5029751 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted March 11, 2018 Author Share Posted March 11, 2018 Alright, I'll make that change. Thanks for that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/22/#findComment-5029756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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