Commissar Molotov Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 That's what players are for! I also applaud the narrative spirit you are showing in the idea that a draw might be something quite cool too. I anticipate the combat should be complete by the weekend, allowing you to return to a bit of narrative before the next (and final) part of the "tutorial". I know Nineswords is working on a story post but he is in America right now with limited internet. Mazer Rackham and Xin Ceithan 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5100155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineswords Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Posted. Sorry guys limited internet. Hopefully this brings me up to speed to the current round. Mazer Rackham, Xin Ceithan and Steel Company 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5100933 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Always worth waiting for brother MR. Nineswords 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5101045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 Update in about twelve hours - get anything in that you can! Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5101133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Looking forward to it CM :) Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5101144 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 AT - if you are happy for me to handle your rolls (perhaps with some guidance as to your plans) I can move things forward if it will take multiple rounds to resolve the combat, rather than pausing each time to wait for your input. I believe Greysight will spend a fate point to ignore being stunned, but some of it depends on your actions. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5101656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 CM, Nice update, I noticed something with the numbers in the attacks from A.T..... Greysight adopts a defensive stance whilst in combat against Atratus. (Giving him two reactions, and putting Atratus at -20 to WS to hit him.) Per Atratus's last turn, he will use 'multiple attacks' with his Chainsword (twice) and combat knife (once) due to the Swift Attack talent. Chainsword: WS53(-20 due to two-weapon wielder, -20 due to defensive stance) = 34 (MISS) Chainsword: WS53(-20 due to two-weapon wielder, -20 due to defensive stance) = 10 (HIT) Combat Knife: WS53(-20 due to two-weapon wielder, -20 due to defensive stance) = 17 (MISS) Using two weapons for combat in this case should look something like this: Chainsword: WS53(-20 due to two-weapon wielder, -20 due to defensive stance, +10 due to ambidextrous) = 34 (MISS) Chainsword: WS53(-20 due to two-weapon wielder, -20 due to defensive stance, +10 due to ambidextrous) = 10 (HIT) Combat Knife: WS53(-20 due to two-weapon wielder, -20 due to defensive stance, +10 due to ambidextrous) = 17 (HIT) I point it out, as all Astartes have ambidextrous, and it forms a core part of being able to take advantage of swift attack and lighting attack later for assault marines... not to mention it also lets us use a melee weapon and a pistol weapon in CQB. Either way, as the GM it is your call if you want to revise or not, I'm enjoying the tension that is the climax of this event. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5101664 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 AT - if you are happy for me to handle your rolls (perhaps with some guidance as to your plans) I can move things forward if it will take multiple rounds to resolve the combat, rather than pausing each time to wait for your input. I believe Greysight will spend a fate point to ignore being stunned, but some of it depends on your actions. I was rather hoping to dive on the blue team skull in a last gasp Greysight heroic-suicide-attack thing. Atratus has a weapon skill of 63*, up to 73 while parrying (* i've moved the bonuses on the sheet into the stat box for easier reading) and a strength bonus of +11 (and the chainsword is Pen 4) - so by the book he's just clobbered they guy, which is a little anti-climactic :p Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5101685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Hmmm where are you getting pen 4 for the chainsword? I have mine notated as being pen3 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5101717 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 I'm realising that I haven't included some of the armour-related bonuses for other characters in this combat - another learning point for me! I am reworking the combat (and Greysight's (re)actions) accordingly. Steel Company 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5101749 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 I'm realising that I haven't included some of the armour-related bonuses for other characters in this combat - another learning point for me! I am reworking the combat (and Greysight's (re)actions) accordingly. I really should find that cheat sheet I used to have CM, it made combat much more clear... if I find it, I'll make it a google doc for you to look over. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5101753 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 Hmmm where are you getting pen 4 for the chainsword? I have mine notated as being pen3 The deathwatch book - though it may have been erataed, i'll have to dig out the FAQ and check it against my character sheet to make sure i've got the right numbers as it could well be 3 now. Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5101757 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 8, 2018 Author Share Posted June 8, 2018 I'm using the errata stats for weapons as players had asked me to do so previously. I have re-edited round 14: Red Team (and Atratus, particularly) victory! Now let us return to narrative for a bit. Behind the scenes we can take stock and I will be filing away some useful tidbits for our next combat and how we can run it smoother! Mazer Rackham, Steel Company and Xin Ceithan 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5101761 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted June 8, 2018 Share Posted June 8, 2018 (character sheet corrected for errata - and hopefully many kinks worked out of the combat mechanics in the test run) Steel Company and Commissar Molotov 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5101784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dosjetka Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I'm away for a week starting tonight but have scribbled stuff down in a notebook. I'll get a post up on the 19th at the latest. Mazer Rackham, Commissar Molotov and Xin Ceithan 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5102049 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 (edited) I'm using the errata stats for weapons as players had asked me to do so previously. I have re-edited round 14: Red Team (and Atratus, particularly) victory! Now let us return to narrative for a bit. Behind the scenes we can take stock and I will be filing away some useful tidbits for our next combat and how we can run it smoother! I have kept my nose out due to earlier exuberance on my part and getting everyone confused. By my account Akkad's arm should be on the floor (which would have been awesome as I would have beaten Tyber to death with it), I also should have killed Varvost outright in the close-range boltering as I forgot pen and Atratus should also have had his wings clipped in what was a bloody savage round of shooting by Cadence, but again I forgot Pen 5. I acknowledge my error and will correct it. And BTW please, please continue to use the Errata'd stats - otherwise this is going to be a damn short game. I'm away for a week starting tonight but have scribbled stuff down in a notebook. I'll get a post up on the 19th at the latest. You've been teasing us with a post for two weeks now brother - now give us that sweet narrative or I am going to blow a gasket. A guy can only stay interested for so long you know? MR. Edited June 9, 2018 by Mazer Rackham Steel Company 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5102139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 ...and Atratus should also have had his wings clipped in what was a bloody savage round of shooting by Cadence, but again I forgot Pen 5. Rolled a 02 for his dodge :p What really saved him was not taking overwatch in the same round or he wouldn't have had a dodge left to use Varvost led a charmed life with all the weapon jams/misses and then only the single hit from that point blank shot. You didn't miss anything forgetting the 5 pen, he'd have just been slightly more blown up going through the door... Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5102160 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Rolled a 02 for his dodge What really saved him was not taking overwatch in the same round or he wouldn't have had a dodge left to use Varvost led a charmed life with all the weapon jams/misses and then only the single hit from that point blank shot. You didn't miss anything forgetting the 5 pen, he'd have just been slightly more blown up going through the door... Good rolls! Can't argue with that :) MR. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5102164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 Good rolls! Can't argue with that :) What we did entirely forget is that we had an apothecary Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5102186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 I mean I was under the assumption that this being training meant that I wasnt going to be healing since nothing was immadiately lethal :p Steel Company 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5102209 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Commissar Molotov Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 It's certainly helped me somewhat in terms of understanding the rules a bit better. I also have certain ideas to make combat a little clearer for everyone with regards to how many fate points and wounds people have, which should help somewhat. Please when you get a chance, look over your character sheets, restore wounds and fate points to normal, and check over your stats. If you want to reallocate your original 1000xp or your specialisation skills, that's something that we can do to ensure your character plays as you wish. Slips, Steel Company and Xin Ceithan 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5102270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 E3 distracted me to hell sooooooo....yeah :P Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5102908 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I think I might take you up on the xp reassingment... picking up two weapon fighting melee might be an idea for Tyber.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5102929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slips Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I think I might take you up on the xp reassingment... picking up two weapon fighting melee might be an idea for Tyber.... If you're going to be one of our living blenders, it certainly wouldn't hurt to have! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5102932 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel Company Posted June 11, 2018 Share Posted June 11, 2018 I think I might take you up on the xp reassingment... picking up two weapon fighting melee might be an idea for Tyber.... If you're going to be one of our living blenders, it certainly wouldn't hurt to have! Seeing how it worked in the test run, I think getting rid of that last -10 to WS... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/343329-dw-blackthorn-and-swordhand-ooc-thread/page/45/#findComment-5102934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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