Master Sheol Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Is there a release date? -2019 Really 2019? Not late 2018? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 No, as they've been writing the Imperial Armour: Talons book. They're aiming for the next HH Weekender for Book 8, so it's likely to be early February of 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 No, as they've been writing the Imperial Armour: Talons book. They're aiming for the next HH Weekender for Book 8, so it's likely to be early February of 2019.NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOI don't give a :cuss because I play IW but NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :cuss :cuss It's one year now and we still miss him. Because he had made it by now. Because he was awesome. Maybe even more because I read a LOT of his stuff. R.I.P. Alan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChildofFang Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 I mean they missed the dates they originally laid out for the last 2 books. The one before that I think as well. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Malevolence will be out early 2019 and not end of 2018? Really? And the book about Dar... ehm... Delayed Angels when will be out? End 2030? :D I am just curious to see how many delayed Malevolence and the following books will have... The more i see (books delayed, models dissapearing) the more i think that FW is just completing the HH project cause they had to do It and not because they believe on it anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Malevolence will be out early 2019 and not end of 2018? Really? And the book about Dar... ehm... Delayed Angels when will be out? End 2030? :D I am just curious to see how many delayed Malevolence and the following books will have... The more i see (books delayed, models dissapearing) the more i think that FW is just completing the HH project cause they had to do It and not because they believe on it anymore I guess lots of people underestimate how big a loss the passing of Alan was.That guy was the main force who drove the HH onwards. He wrote most of the stuff and was involved in almost any working step of the Heresy. It's no wonder at all, that the progress is slowed down so much. Remember that a black book is more than ten pages of rules. It has hundreds and hundreds of pages containing cool fluff, artworks and so on. Without the main and maybe only writer it is very hard to pull of. FW has to compensate and find a new way of doing that without loosing the quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 French wrote as well, but he's also writing heaps for BL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Malevolence, whenever it comes out, will honour Alan's memory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noserenda Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 I thought they changed legions specifically because the Dangles needed more work, tbh at this point it's more a lack of staff with only 2/3 staff trying to keep up with 40k AND produce heresy stuff at the same time and huge shoes to fill, I may be grumpy at their results but I can respect the fairly awful situation they appear to be in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
b1soul Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 The First shall be the Last...almost certain they'll be the most unique FW legion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 The First shall be the Last...almost certain they'll be the most unique FW legionIt depends in the quality of the work they Will do both model side and rules sideAfter waiting all this years i want nothing less than diamonds on a golden plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 29, 2018 Author Share Posted May 29, 2018 Let's face it, it makes sense to have the book released at the Weekender with a slew of models and news in the seminars. Just makes a real event of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fire Golem Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Let's face it, it makes sense to have the book released at the Weekender with a slew of models and news in the seminars. Just makes a real event of it. Plus, it never was gonna come out this year. Every book FW has announced has been delayed at least a bit from what i remember, so late 2018 was always going to slip to 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carlisimo Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 French wrote as well, but he's also writing heaps for BL. It sounds like he’s still involved, though not as much as in books 1-3, according to his recent interview on the Combat Phase podcast. Andy Hoare wrote the Autek Mor story in book 6 (and probably others); I don’t know if he’s still actively writing but I’d guess so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluntblade Posted May 29, 2018 Share Posted May 29, 2018 Hoare wrote the Cleansing of Bodt? I like him already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hesh Kadesh Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 I'm not sure I like the direction that FW are taking the 'unique legions'. Talons of the Emperor should never have existed until the Siege, and even then, it doesn't take an idiot to work out how absurdly OP they were. You'd have to actively ignored any knowledge of rules or concept of how the game is played to have made them as they are. Throw in the ridiculous basic errors in the rules, like being able to wound vehicles, or what exactly a Misericorde does. The two Primarchs are a joke powerwise (Magnus 36" dealing 2d6 Destroyer hits to every target within 36" makes me giggle) and way off key with much of the stuff that had come before, even considering that there will be some aspect of power creep. Then the general mess of how the rules were written and displayed. Book 7 is the one of the worst put together books in FW history. You compare how good Taros, Beta Anphelion IV, Vraks and Badab were, and then think how even at its lowest ebbs, Kastorel Novem is still a reasonably engaging read, and the campaign is fun.. Then you see some up and coming rules, like the Arcus Tank, or the notRhino SA vehicle, and you think golly gee are FW thinking? Book 7 misses out on huge amounts of everything that made the previous books good, and are as big a mistep as making Knight Households, Primarchs anything other than Scenario specific doods, Zealot Rending 100pt Cultist Hordes, Book 2, and Buffing Veterans. The story wasn't even that well written or interesting. Book 7 is a shambles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Blackwood Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Whats wrong with Knight Households ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Whats wrong with Knight Households ?Play against them with a Centurion list, and you'll know what he meant. I fully agree on book 7. Although I like the Sisters and most of the VI. army list there is so much bull:cuss in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ficinus Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 But why would you ever play against knights with a centurion list? A centurion list is designed for a game style where knights don't exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 But why would you ever play against knights with a centurion list? A centurion list is designed for a game style where knights don't exist.Fair enough.Play with a not tailored list against Knights then. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rendingon1+ Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Why should anynoe not tailor their list vs knights? :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 1, 2018 Author Share Posted June 1, 2018 Why should anynoe not tailor their list vs knights? :) Because you might have a generic all comers list at an event or something. I played all Knights with my Custodes and that is a POOR matchup. Stomps hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgoff Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Why should anynoe not tailor their list vs knights? :)I don't say tt is impossible to beat them, but you have to change your army. The game is based around MEQ vs MEQ. If one side is different the whole system doesn't work probably anymore. Regular marines are apart from being scoring all but useless against knights and that is where the problems start. Same with the golden dudes.Of course you can beat them, but it doesn't feel good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown Legionnaire Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 It's an uphill battle, yes. But then, so is a fight against a (pure Custodes) Talons of the Emperor army. On the other hand, fighting the typical Legion (net-) list of our current time (Sicaran variants, Veterans, podding Leviathan times two) is only marginally easier and sure is more boring, if you ask me. Also, with the re-introduction of multi Melta-Bombing in close assault, fighting Knights has become more viable again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Sheol Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 The problem at the basis of HH is that is based on 7th edition that is one of the worst ever for 40k While we are playing SM vs SM it still works but when we introduce something in the mix all the limitations and ugliness of the 7th edition comes alive We must live with that unless FW Will switch 30K to a better set of rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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