PiñaColada Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Aaaaaaaahhhhhskaoappakskwkwn hopefully I get my money back from my rip off experience before then! That sounds terrible, I'll recite a canticle for you. Hopefully this helps you get a god-machine alongside the rest of us. 01001111 01101101 01101110 01101001 01110011 01110011 01101001 01100001 01101000 00100001 00100000 01010000 01101100 01100101 01100001 01110011 01100101 00100000 01101000 01100101 01101100 01110000 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100100 01100101 01110110 01101111 01110101 01110100 00100000 01110011 01101111 01110101 01101100 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Aaaaaaaahhhhhskaoappakskwkwn hopefully I get my money back from my rip off experience before then! That sounds terrible, I'll recite a canticle for you. Hopefully this helps you get a god-machine alongside the rest of us. 01001111 01101101 01101110 01101001 01110011 01110011 01101001 01100001 01101000 00100001 00100000 01010000 01101100 01100101 01100001 01110011 01100101 00100000 01101000 01100101 01101100 01110000 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100100 01100101 01110110 01101111 01110101 01110100 00100000 01110011 01101111 01110101 01101100 Nah, he ain't that devout ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 About time. Hope that there will be WD leaks though. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Aaaaaaaahhhhhskaoappakskwkwn hopefully I get my money back from my rip off experience before then! That sounds terrible, I'll recite a canticle for you. Hopefully this helps you get a god-machine alongside the rest of us.01001111 01101101 01101110 01101001 01110011 01110011 01101001 01100001 01101000 00100001 00100000 01010000 01101100 01100101 01100001 01110011 01100101 00100000 01101000 01100101 01101100 01110000 00100000 01110100 01101000 01101001 01110011 00100000 01100100 01100101 01110110 01101111 01110101 01110100 00100000 01110011 01101111 01110101 01101100 Nah, he ain't that devout ;) I've learned from my mistake, and have sacrificed another 30% of my flesh to the Omnissiah, may I be blessed with the salvation of cold mathmatic logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosteldar Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 About time. Hope that there will be WD leaks though. Well, I thought they delayed the WD release until June 8th or 9th? If so, we'll get the models/codex roughly the same time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Oh did they? Damn, haven't heard about that. :( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Some new info from chapter master Valrak!!! ( )Plenty of stuff we already "know" but some new stuff as well. Alludes to June release even if Valrak himself is doubtful. Castellans are ~670 points. Both Castellan and Valiant have 28 wounds S8 T8 The missiles are one shot, castellan and valiant can have 4 of them. S10 AP-4 D6 damage and ignore invulnerable saves Catellan Volcano Lance Heavy D6 18" S14 AP-4 2D6 damage Other weapon is a plasma decimator Heavy 2d6 40" plasma cannon stats (so S7/8 AP-3 D1/2) The shoulder guns are "autocannons" but with d3 damages so its 2d3 shots 48" S7 AP-1 Dd3 per shoulder. The Valiants other weapon is "conflaguration" (he messed the word up) Heavy 3 18" S6 AP-1 D6 damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 guns with 18" range. So even this very shooty looking Knight wants to move up the board... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 The Valiants harpoon is... insanity. If those stats are accurate, Shadowswords beware! :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostglaive Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Well, I was hoping more for a Volcano CANNON instead of a Lance. But even so, the Castellan sounds like it's going to be brutal with its firepower. I'm sold. I'll take two! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 18 inches on that volcano lance sounds oddly short though. I mean it's amazingly powerful so it feels like it's a way to balance the gun even if it doesn't seem to make all that much sense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostglaive Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I'm wondering if they'll give the Castellans a stronger version of Titanic Feet as well, seeing as they want this thing to apparently get close to the enemy. Seeing as it's bigger than a regular Knight, maybe 4 attacks per 1 instead of 3? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I'm wondering if they'll give the Castellans a stronger version of Titanic Feet as well, seeing as they want this thing to apparently get close to the enemy. Seeing as it's bigger than a regular Knight, maybe 4 attacks per 1 instead of 3? It's not impossible, but the Porphyrion doesn't - and that thing is as big as a Warhound Titan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I'm wondering if they'll give the Castellans a stronger version of Titanic Feet as well, seeing as they want this thing to apparently get close to the enemy. Seeing as it's bigger than a regular Knight, maybe 4 attacks per 1 instead of 3? It's not impossible, but the Porphyrion doesn't - and that thing is as big as a Warhound Titan Sure, but that's a forgeworld model and those rules don't always reflect parity with mailine GW. Also, that might change with the codex. I wouldn't personally think that titanic feet are going to get better though, honestly I don't think they need to be. Melee weapons are in a bad spot as of right now but if the Canis Rex weapon is an indicator they might get a big buff since I doubt that his relic is that much better than a normal thunderstrike gauntlet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 The Valiants other weapon is "conflaguration" (he messed the word up) Heavy 3 18" S6 AP-1 D6 damage Conflagration sounds more like an incendiary weapon than a harpoon... Is this a separate secondary weapon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 The Valiants other weapon is "conflaguration" (he messed the word up) Heavy 3 18" S6 AP-1 D6 damage Conflagration sounds more like an incendiary weapon than a harpoon... Is this a separate secondary weapon? Exactly, English isn't my first language but that sounds like a super heavy flamer to me. TBH Valrak fumbled that entire sentence (he was excited I guess) so maybe I misheard the stats? He speaks about it at 4:45 in the video if you want to listen for yourselves.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushkilla Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 He says the volcano lance is 80" range not 18". At least that's what I hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 He says the volcano lance is 80" range not 18". At least that's what I hear. You might be right, I sure hope so! Regarding the conflagration, that entire sentence is a mess. I wonder if he mixes up two separate weapons? To my ears he says "18 inch range S6 AP-1 2 damage" then he just says "auto-hits D6 damage".. Not sure if he says auto hits but it sort of sounds like it. It might be that the harpoon auto hits with d6 damage and theres a conflagration i e big flamer underneath it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mushkilla Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Don't think it's the harpoon. He says the harpoon gets to re-roll to hit against vehicles and monsters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Points wise - Warden roughly being 411 points rather than 466. New super Knights are both in the same kit, will cost around 670 points each. Armiger with stubber now 164. Pre-order on 2nd June, 9th for release. Castellan and Valiant both have 4 1 shot missiles - s10 -4ap D6dmg, IGNORES INVULNS Shoulder cannons are essentially autocannons with d3 damage. 4d3 shots in total. Valiant - Thundercoil harpoon - heavy 1, s16 -6ap, 2d6 dmg. Reroll hits vs vehicles and monsters +d3 mortal wounds if you cause any damage. Valiant - Conflagration Cannon - 18" range, heavy 3, s6, -1ap, 2 dmg, autohits. But also says heavy 3, d6 dmg, so i think something has got mixed up here. Castellan - Volcano Lance - range 80", heavy d6, s14, -4ap, 2d6dmg. Castellan - Plasma Decimator - range 40", heavy 2d6 plasma cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluflash Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I hear the same, 80" range on the volcano lance. On the conflagration cannon he says: "18", S6, Ap-1, 2 damage, Auto-hits, Heavy 3 D6 damage" I'm guessing he means Heavy 3d6 shots, 18", Auto-hits, S6, Ap-1 D2 for the stat line. 3 shots seems like way too few for a knight sized flamer weapon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 I've not actually listened to it. C&p from elsewhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Valiant - Thundercoil harpoon... ....+d3 mortal wounds if you cause any damage. Str 16, -6 AP... 'if' you cause any damage xD - they may as well just say 'yeah, you know what? Just go ahead and add the D3 mortal wounds' :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Valiant - Thundercoil harpoon... ....+d3 mortal wounds if you cause any damage. Str 16, -6 AP... 'if' you cause any damage xD - they may as well just say 'yeah, you know what? Just go ahead and add the D3 mortal wounds' Except for all the space elves and their dang invulnerable saves, or a happy little ork with a kustom force field. There are quite a few monsters/vehicles out there with invulns and all that fancy AP isn't going to be helpful then. It's one of the reasons I can't get on board with the shadowsword being the best super heavy. (Though with better knights that tank is going to become more common) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Valiant - Thundercoil harpoon... ....+d3 mortal wounds if you cause any damage. Str 16, -6 AP... 'if' you cause any damage xD - they may as well just say 'yeah, you know what? Just go ahead and add the D3 mortal wounds' Except for all the space elves and their dang invulnerable saves, or a happy little ork with a kustom force field. There are quite a few monsters/vehicles out there with invulns and all that fancy AP isn't going to be helpful then. It's one of the reasons I can't get on board with the shadowsword being the best super heavy. (Though with better knights that tank is going to become more common) True. Still, that's a massive, massive hit when it lands. Kinda nice to have some mortal wound output too. Not much of that going around among Knights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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