hermanista Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Or it's a production issue. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5097673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Or it's a production issue. Not impossible. From what I hear they're essentially maxed out all the time. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5097677 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Yeah. They bought two new machines, unfortunately it trips the power for the area if they turn them on. I still think they are waiting for the transformer upgrade locally. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5097679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Edit: got my answer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5097686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MistaGav Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Wait what? Canis Rex is not up for next week? That is genuinely surprising EDIT: "The valiant Freeblade Sir Hekhtur, and his Knight Preceptor steed Canis Rex, will be available later in the year as part of a dual kit that also builds the Knight Preceptor (not to mention every other variant of Questoris-class Knight)." So that means he's going have 5 sprues then, since he needs the full Warden sprue for that to be a true statement Knights do weirrrrrrrd things to GW's profits. They're really impactful items historically (great for us, and the reason why we above others have actually got new kits...), I'm guessing they're deliberately spreading out the releases more than normal to take advantage of this effect (and possible to allow our wallets to recharge between waves). I think they're saving him for some other release or possibly a campaign. They obviously have a tight release schedule and everything is planned way in advance so there is a clear reason for him being released later rather than now. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5097719 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted June 3, 2018 Share Posted June 3, 2018 Edit: got my answer.What was the question Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5097720 Share on other sites More sharing options...
helterskelter Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Calling it now, sir hector finds leman Russ, the ghosts of freki and geri, and he'll be released in a new triumvirate with malcador reincarnated Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5097963 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clingy Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Malcador! I want to field a Malcador! If this comes to pass I’m going to be so happy Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5097969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KhorneHunter57x Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 At the same time i can't see him being pushed too much above the castellan valiant kits in terms of pricing... but find it hard to believe yet another sprue will just be an additional +5 quid...The current difference between the Paladin/Errant and Warden/Gallant/Crusader kits is 10GBP/17USD for the extra sprue, so I wouldn't be surprised if Canis Rex has an increase of a similar amount. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5097974 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 At the same time i can't see him being pushed too much above the castellan valiant kits in terms of pricing... but find it hard to believe yet another sprue will just be an additional +5 quid...The current difference between the Paladin/Errant and Warden/Gallant/Crusader kits is 10GBP/17USD for the extra sprue, so I wouldn't be surprised if Canis Rex has an increase of a similar amount. Seems a sensible bet to me, definitely. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I just hesitate to think they'll charge more for CR than they will the new Dominus variants. At the same time the CR kit will have 2 more sprues than those, so fair enough? The design of the sprues of the Dominus has made making future variants of those a cinch, just switch out 1 sprue for a new loadout. Speaking of the dominus sprues, there's still that weird seam above the castellans head that is pretty much the only thing I don't like about the kit. It wasn't a master vs production model issue, as we theorized way back, since its still there on the sprue. What gives? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I just hesitate to think they'll charge more for CR than they will the new Dominus variants. At the same time the CR kit will have 2 more sprues than those, so fair enough? The design of the sprues of the Dominus has made making future variants of those a cinch, just switch out 1 sprue for a new loadout. Speaking of the dominus sprues, there's still that weird seam above the castellans head that is pretty much the only thing I don't like about the kit. It wasn't a master vs production model issue, as we theorized way back, since its still there on the sprue. What gives? Just bad design I suppose :/ I'm far from an expert, but I suspect like many industries things get noticed late in the development cycle, and time means they just get left as they are. You see similar things on the FW kits. The Knights are typically superb pieces of Resin design, but the Hell Blade / Hell Talon are awful in comparison, and need quite a lot of work on the purchasers part with green stuff etc. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098035 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 So I've just sort of taken in how good Cawl's wrath is. Hot damn. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098046 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidNinja Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 OK so I'm getting mixed interpretations from different reviewers, does an Aux LoW knight get a house trait and/or access to strats? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 OK so I'm getting mixed interpretations from different reviewers, does an Aux LoW knight get a house trait and/or access to strats? No... I don't believe so buddy. Lances only if you want the Traits etc sadly. From what I've read, we only unlock all the goodness from fielding a Lance - otherwise we're running a standard Knight. You could use Freeblade rules in an aux detachment though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 So I've just sort of taken in how good Cawl's wrath is. Hot damn. And I can't take it! Counts as a different house just makes me feel dirty too, but I can't really see myself wanting another relic. It makes a lackluster weapon (that I have to take) great. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098058 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 So I've just sort of taken in how good Cawl's wrath is. Hot damn. And I can't take it! Counts as a different house just makes me feel dirty too, but I can't really see myself wanting another relic. It makes a lackluster weapon (that I have to take) great. Average 4 Damage standard to a Landraider, 8 if overcharged... It's alright. It's an improvement certainly, but I dunno if I'm seeing it as anything like an auto take. Small targets the damage is wasted, large ones... well you have the much better Volcano Lance right next to it. I think I'd still prefer a more consistent, less swingy weapon entirely in that slot. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Did we ever find out what the lance relic does? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 Did we ever find out what the lance relic does? Not that I've seen as yet. One to watch for sure. I think my favourite of the ranged weapons so far is Traitors Pyre... that thing is so good. I'd just love to take it on anything but the Valiant (sorry, I'm being very hard to please!) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098072 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I don't think there is a relic Volcano Lance, I watched a breakdown of everything last night and it wasn't on there. Stands to reason that there was one relic per Dominus Chassis (Conflag Cannon/ Plasma Decimator). I was ALL for the Valiant but that Plasma Relic has got me thinking, not to mention the Harpoon while awesome, is super un-reliable - needs an extra rule. I think saying the Plasma's output against a Landraider is an unfair picture, you'll be shooting the VL at that for a lot more damage while the plasma uses it's S8 -4 2D to ruin any medium infantry/ vehicles it chooses. Hardly any reason to overcharge it either at that point too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysere Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 OK so I'm getting mixed interpretations from different reviewers, does an Aux LoW knight get a house trait and/or access to strats? No... I don't believe so buddy. Lances only if you want the Traits etc sadly. From what I've read, we only unlock all the goodness from fielding a Lance - otherwise we're running a standard Knight. You could use Freeblade rules in an aux detachment though. The lance rule only does two things. Let's you make a model in a SHD a character if battleforged, and no cp from SHD unless its three big knights. Nothing I saw to prevent you using household rules. As for the plasma I'd rather stick to imperial knights and just make it hawkshroud and give it their warlord trait. +1 against a target of your choice so no over heat and hit on 2s on an enemy super heavy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098086 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I don't think there is a relic Volcano Lance, I watched a breakdown of everything last night and it wasn't on there. Stands to reason that there was one relic per Dominus Chassis (Conflag Cannon/ Plasma Decimator). I was ALL for the Valiant but that Plasma Relic has got me thinking, not to mention the Harpoon while awesome, is super un-reliable - needs an extra rule. I think saying the Plasma's output against a Landraider is an unfair picture, you'll be shooting the VL at that for a lot more damage while the plasma uses it's S8 -4 2D to ruin any medium infantry/ vehicles it chooses. Hardly any reason to overcharge it either at that point too. That's just it though, number of shots is killing you there. 2 damage is no better than 1 vs an MEQ, and you could simply overcharge the basic version vs 2 wound infantry - 3 wound infantry is quite a rarity still, so that's a seriously narrow application. 'Tis why I picked a bigger target - you can see the wound potential that much more clearly. I'd really rather have had a focused anti-infantry weapon than the RFBC of plasma. Tends to be jack of all trades, master of none you know? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 OK so I'm getting mixed interpretations from different reviewers, does an Aux LoW knight get a house trait and/or access to strats?No... I don't believe so buddy. Lances only if you want the Traits etc sadly. From what I've read, we only unlock all the goodness from fielding a Lance - otherwise we're running a standard Knight. You could use Freeblade rules in an aux detachment though. The lance rule only does two things. Let's you make a model in a SHD a character if battleforged, and no cp from SHD unless its three big knights. Nothing I saw to prevent you using household rules. As for the plasma I'd rather stick to imperial knights and just make it hawkshroud and give it their warlord trait. +1 against a target of your choice so no over heat and hit on 2s on an enemy super heavy. There were some specific examples given where you could take 3x Armigers for example and get CP, but not any traits because they weren't in a Lance. 'Knight Lances: If your army is Battle-forged, select one model from every Imperial Knights detachment. Those models gain the Character keyword. If you have at least three of Dominus and/or Questoris class knights in the detachment in any combination, you gain the listed Command Benefits' Dunno... everything is being so badly worded and inconsistent in the reviews :/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
General Strike Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 I plan to get the Castellan, but I do plan for it to be a vehicle killer in my list. I think two crusaders and a gallant is going to be the rest, if it fits. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098090 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucidNinja Posted June 4, 2018 Share Posted June 4, 2018 If an Aux can use strats is entirely up to the wording for strats in the codex but if anything like space marines aux don't count Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/44/#findComment-5098094 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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