PiñaColada Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I wonder if they'll end up changing or even removing a few of the existing knight datasheets. Looking at the current differences between them I really feel like 5 separate datasheets seems like overkill Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I wonder if they'll end up changing or even removing a few of the existing knight datasheets. Looking at the current differences between them I really feel like 5 separate datasheets seems like overkill It does fill pages in what is a sparse codex however. And also, like I've said before, it stops you capping out on datasheets with the new rule of three beta rules like renegade knights do. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I wonder if they'll end up changing or even removing a few of the existing knight datasheets. Looking at the current differences between them I really feel like 5 separate datasheets seems like overkill The same could arguably be said of the baneblade family. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083074 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I quite like it. It means the patterns have proper names and implementations based on their weapon, plus the datasheet thing! Maybe we just need even more Knight weapons Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083081 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 More weapons would indeed be nice and most welcome as are more knights. ;) I just bought a really cheap Atrapos and I there is a Styrix flirting with me on my watch list. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosteldar Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Hello everyone! Saw some IK rumors over on DakkaDakka and wanted to share here. Sounds like mid-June and some encouraging other information! https://spikeybits.com/2018/05/rumors-new-rules-points-for-armiger.html Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083102 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluflash Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 My thought on the terrain piece is a Sachristan Crawler. From the BL books, its a mechanicus command/repair/rearm vehicle. I'd guess it has to deploy to work hence "terrain/fortification" instead of a vehicle sheet. That's both lore friendly, and could reasonably give the benefits suggested. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Hello everyone! Saw some IK rumors over on DakkaDakka and wanted to share here. Sounds like mid-June and some encouraging i https://spikeybits.com/2018/05/rumors-new-rules-points-for-armiger.html A bit late there, friend Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083129 Share on other sites More sharing options...
frosteldar Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Hello everyone! Saw some IK rumors over on DakkaDakka and wanted to share here. Sounds like mid-June and some encouraging i https://spikeybits.com/2018/05/rumors-new-rules-points-for-armiger.html A bit late there, friend Doh! Swear I read the post yesterday and totally missed that. My bad! :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I wonder if they'll end up changing or even removing a few of the existing knight datasheets. Looking at the current differences between them I really feel like 5 separate datasheets seems like overkill The same could arguably be said of the baneblade family. I mean yes, sort of.. But unless I'm mistaken at least all of the different IG super heavies have unique main guns whereas a few of the different knights are very similar. It does pad the codex however, so I doubt they remove any Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffersonian000 Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 It appears that the separate data sheets for each Knight variant future-proofed IKs for the “Rule of Three” beta rule. If all Knights were just on data sheet with all the options, we’d only be able to field 3 Knights and 3 Warglaives. SJ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083166 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midlight Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 9 warglaives. You can have up to 3 in a unit and 3 iterations of the same datasheet Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083181 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeStinyFiSh Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 1 - The rule of three is not Beta for Comp, it is a suggestion for events, or am I wrong? 2 - I always thought the 5 Knights are a joke, it is just 1 vehicle with 3 different main guns, 2 cc weapons, 2 nipple weapons and 3 back weapons. Would be cool to make different rules for different Knights, especially the Gallant needs something to keep up with the rest... 3 - I am so looking forward to the first leaks and of course the final Codex. My Knights have seen very little of 8th edition so far, this needs to change Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommodusXIII Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 "Suggestion for Events" has a habit of becoming "Adopted Community Standard" very quickly. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083206 Share on other sites More sharing options...
hermanista Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 I think we're getting close, regimental standard article https://regimental-standard.com/2018/05/16/the-dos-and-donts-of-fighting-with-the-questor-imperialis/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083290 Share on other sites More sharing options...
derLumpi Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 Nice! Hopefully an indicator that they are not that far away. :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aothaine Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 It does fill pages in what is a sparse codex however. And also, like I've said before, it stops you capping out on datasheets with the new rule of three beta rules like renegade knights do. Honestly, capping on data sheets with IKs your running 2000+ armies arn't you? Still. I agree with you. I would rather they keep them all separate so we have cool and unique names for all the different variants. The units are already fairly limited. I hope they put Sentinels in the codex for baby walkers. ^_^ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stray Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 It does fill pages in what is a sparse codex however. And also, like I've said before, it stops you capping out on datasheets with the new rule of three beta rules like renegade knights do. Honestly, capping on data sheets with IKs your running 2000+ armies arn't you? Still. I agree with you. I would rather they keep them all separate so we have cool and unique names for all the different variants. The units are already fairly limited. I hope they put Sentinels in the codex for baby walkers. I still think it'd be nice for each variant to get something else to differentiate them. Maybe a flavour rule? Gallant could have an extra attack, maybe keep it's invuln in melee, Errant could re-roll wounds vs vehicles, Crusader could... shoot stuff, Paladin could go home in a sulk, wishing it were a Styrix too... :P Well, you get the idea anyway :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083479 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted May 16, 2018 Share Posted May 16, 2018 The Gallant really needs something to it. The transition to 8th wasn't kind. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 The Gallant really needs something to it. The transition to 8th wasn't kind. +2A for having both weapons would be nice. Or even better, do a new variant with TWO fists/ Chainswords (hahahaha won't happen but if only). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083931 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frostglaive Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I'd like to see it more how the 30k HH Knight army works. Instead of the Knight itself getting new special rules per datasheet, you'd give them a Scion (pilot). And each Scion has different special rules attached to it. I think that'd definitely give the army some much needed extra flavor (in addition to the Household traits and whatnot). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5083992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 I'd like to see it more how the 30k HH Knight army works. Instead of the Knight itself getting new special rules per datasheet, you'd give them a Scion (pilot). And each Scion has different special rules attached to it. I think that'd definitely give the army some much needed extra flavor (in addition to the Household traits and whatnot). That sounds like a cool system. It would be an easy way to add a bit of extra fluff to your favorite knights. Allthough from a game mechanic perspective I don't know if they would add another system on top of household traits. One can hope Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5084014 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 https://spikeybits.com/2018/05/knight-castellan-valiant-rules-rumors.htmlSome new Castellan/Valiant rumours are up. To fit 3 of them in 1850 points would mean that they can't be above the 600 mark, at least in any significant way Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5084212 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Stupid double post. Delete at your leisure. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5084219 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted May 17, 2018 Share Posted May 17, 2018 Taking it with a massive mountain of salt due to the source, but parts of it is collaborated by other more reliable(?) rumors we already have. I get the feeling the truth may come sooner rather than later as well at any rate so getting pretty pumped To fit 3 of them in 1850 points would mean that they can't be above the 600 mark, at least in any significant way so 600 ish? Seems reasonable given its armaments. Hope the cost of the crusader is also toned down in comparison. Assuming any of this is legit of course. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345475-new-knight-castellan-revealed/page/7/#findComment-5084225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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