Bluthusten Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 i´m gonna try out a combination of Deathwatch (Primaris) with my Custodes. a Custodes Battalion (2x Bike-Captain, 3x3 Guards with Speers) costs 785 Points. It gives you speed with the 2 Captains and 3 units of midfield "bullys" now we can add a solid firebase Killteam 1 and 2 5 Intercessors (Stalker-Bolter) 4 Hellblaster (Heavy Plasma) 1 Agressor they get supported by a Apothecary and a Vexillus Praetor with the Vexilla Defensor (Custodes). This give our Primaris DW Firebase a 5+ Invul. save. now we´re something about 1500 Points (dont know the pointcosts exactly) enough to add a 3rd killteam and 2 HQ´s (Battallion) 3rd Killteam will be like: 5 Intercessor (AssaultBolter) 3 Hellblaster (Assault-Plasma) 1 Agressor 1 Interceptor they can support our Custodes in the midfield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Does anyone know how having an Inceptor in your team effects whether or not they can go in Repulsors? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordCommanderSamirus Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Unless it's different from the BA codex the repulsor states it cannot carry Jump Pack units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Unless it's different from the BA codex the repulsor states it cannot carry Jump Pack units. It's the same in the SM codex as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prot Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Does anyone know how having an Inceptor in your team effects whether or not they can go in Repulsors? Unless it's different from the BA codex the repulsor states it cannot carry Jump Pack units. It's the same in the SM codex as well. I just wanted to add that this is why I'm having trouble fitting Inceptors into a Kill Team in my test lists. The Repulsor still has a role in Deathwatch I believe because you want minimal drops in deployment, and .... well the need for lascannons (I believe) is paramount in this army. So you're looking at killing two birds with one stone where as the Dreadnaught solution is still valid, it leaves you with Transport issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nusquam Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 The real winner here is deepstriking two Leviathans fro 3CP. Teleportarium is infantry or dreadnought units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Does anyone know how having an Inceptor in your team effects whether or not they can go in Repulsors? Unless it's different from the BA codex the repulsor states it cannot carry Jump Pack units.It's the same in the SM codex as well. I just wanted to add that this is why I'm having trouble fitting Inceptors into a Kill Team in my test lists. The Repulsor still has a role in Deathwatch I believe because you want minimal drops in deployment, and .... well the need for lascannons (I believe) is paramount in this army. So you're looking at killing two birds with one stone where as the Dreadnaught solution is still valid, it leaves you with Transport issues. Primaris always have transport issues unless you're building around the Repulsor pulling double duty as a battle tank. That's certainly a valid option, but I feel like Primaris are the type of units that you'll see end up particularly powerful in the coming meta where your firebase needs to survive until the hard hitting glasscannons arrive from reserve. They have the range to make it happen, and can push forward with an advance to clear that screen quick. I think that's how I want to use them, but I really really want to see a Repulsor in DW colours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizzt79 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 The real winner here is deepstriking two Leviathans fro 3CP. Teleportarium is infantry or dreadnought units. ....or two Redemptors with the heavy + standard onslought cannons, to get a lot of shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradogmatic Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 The real winner here is deepstriking two Leviathans fro 3CP. Teleportarium is infantry or dreadnought units. ....or two Redemptors with the heavy + standard onslought cannons, to get a lot of shots Or two full squads of boltstorm aggressors. They don't move when you teleport in and double dakka their way to victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finkmilkana Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Doesn’t coming from deep strike count as having moved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drizzt79 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Deepstrike counts as moved....10 vets all with stormbolters....40shots hitting on 3, rerol ones for the JP captain, wounding on 2....25 wounds AP0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradogmatic Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Ah yeah. That was my mistake. Scratch that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Question about the Tempest Shells stratagem. Have to use it with a model that can fire SIA, so can you combine Dragonfire rounds to add +1 to hit with the stratagem at a vehicle that's in cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate_wars Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Question about the Tempest Shells stratagem. Have to use it with a model that can fire SIA, so can you combine Dragonfire rounds to add +1 to hit with the stratagem at a vehicle that's in cover? No it is SIA or the stratagem not both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qui-Gon Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Anyone else noticed this?Deathwatch Codex entry on GW's website quotes 29 unique stratagems. Deathwatch Datacards entry on their website quotes 28.What card are we not getting?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUbikator Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Anyone else noticed this? Deathwatch Codex entry on GW's website quotes 29 unique stratagems. Deathwatch Datacards entry on their website quotes 28. What card are we not getting?! Anyone else noticed this? Deathwatch Codex entry on GW's website quotes 29 unique stratagems. Deathwatch Datacards entry on their website quotes 28. What card are we not getting?! We get 28 unique. With 3 universal we get 31 total. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyadventurer Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Do we know if Dreadnoughts happen to get the SIA rule or not yet? Now that storm bolters are on the menu, 2x SB Redemptors would be VERY nice if so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Qui-Gon Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Anyone else noticed this? Deathwatch Codex entry on GW's website quotes 29 unique stratagems. Deathwatch Datacards entry on their website quotes 28. What card are we not getting?! Anyone else noticed this? Deathwatch Codex entry on GW's website quotes 29 unique stratagems. Deathwatch Datacards entry on their website quotes 28. What card are we not getting?! We get 28 unique. With 3 universal we get 31 total. Someone named the stratagems from the Codex. 11 general Space Marine ones 18 Deathwatch unique ones That's 29. So where is the 29th card that the datacards are missing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moostick Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 It's a super secret strategem, so OP that it had to be hidden somewhere random within each Codex. It is said that it is so powerful, that even the GW editors don't really know what it does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate_wars Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Do we know if Dreadnoughts happen to get the SIA rule or not yet? Now that storm bolters are on the menu, 2x SB Redemptors would be VERY nice if so. No it does not there is 2 cost values for storm bolters 1 for SIA users and 1 for vehicles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris521 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Does anyone know the exact wording of the deepstrike stratagem? All I know is that you can spend more CP to bring more units, but not the details. While, command points aren't a big deal due to me playing guard, I still need to decide whether to give my captain a jetpack or just pay command points to bring him in with the kill teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moostick Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 90% chance it will be exactly like Custodes. 1 CP for one unit, 3 CP for 2. No more than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate_wars Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 Does anyone know the exact wording of the deepstrike stratagem? All I know is that you can spend more CP to bring more units, but not the details. While, command points aren't a big deal due to me playing guard, I still need to decide whether to give my captain a jetpack or just pay command points to bring him in with the kill teams. Currently only a French review shows the codex and I don't know any French but heres the link for those who can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris521 Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 90% chance it will be exactly like Custodes. 1 CP for one unit, 3 CP for 2. No more than that. Hmm, if that's the case, then buying jet pack is likely better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stargate_wars Posted May 6, 2018 Share Posted May 6, 2018 After looking at the vid deathwatch infanty and dreadnoughts can use for the usual 1CP/3CP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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