jonjacob Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Idaho - Interesting info here from Space marines errata from the 16th IMPERIAL ARMOUR – INDEX: FORCES OF THE ADEPTUS ASTARTES Angels of Death Add the following ability to all datasheets (excluding Grey Knights datasheets): ‘This unit has the following abilities: And They Shall Know No Fear, Bolter Discipline, Shock Assault and Combat Doctrines.’ Therefore your ancient on a bike is now safe for angels of death? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5369925 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted August 18, 2019 Author Share Posted August 18, 2019 I believe it isn't in the Forge World book but the Forces of the Imperium Index 1. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5369928 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjacob Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Nuts i assumed the "-" meant a break for the index. :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5369929 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted August 18, 2019 Author Share Posted August 18, 2019 I used 2 Vanguard today and they were pretty good anyway. The extra attack offsets for the loss of +1 to hit somewhat. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5369962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjacob Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Did you use the victrix specialist detachment or opt out in this instance? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5370351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 I opted out. CPs are just too tight with so many good ones in the book. It's leading me to think a double Battalion is crucial here. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5370402 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joukernaut Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 I wouldn’t say crucial, but it is worth it to go double batallion now, where before it wasn’t. I do think there’s still a case to be made for single batallion with heavy firepower and some focussed stratagems. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5370408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted August 19, 2019 Author Share Posted August 19, 2019 True. An entire topic can be dedicated can be started on such matters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5370449 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonjacob Posted August 20, 2019 Share Posted August 20, 2019 So victrix honour guard seems to work very well with gene wrought might. Supplemented by litany here or there could work very well indeed! Seal oath might be a nice replacement for the warden of ultramar trait from vigilus, and at least you don't need 2 cp to get there. Only down side is stratagem loss. I'm starting to think double battalions are the way to go. It's a shame battle forged chapters didn't get a cp boost. Oh and tyranic war vets are keyworded as sternguard. Chapter ancient isn't bad either. +3 to banner ability Victrix guard specalist detachment chapter ancient or ancient in terminator armour with warden of ultramar and seal of oath relic. Is something I might try. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5371395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted September 2, 2019 Author Share Posted September 2, 2019 Looks like this Formation is back on the menu! The Ancient on a Bike is back in business with Angels of Death and can have the Standard of Maccragge Inviolate. Rock on. We can be looking at Vanguard with dual lightning claws getting 5 attacks each! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5380373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kallas Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Don't forget to throw in the Reliquary of Vengeance SIW for 6A each!! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5380375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted September 2, 2019 Share Posted September 2, 2019 Wow that’s so nasty - especially if the assault doctrine has kicked in ! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5380428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrkPlayer137 Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 Looks like this Formation is back on the menu! The Ancient on a Bike is back in business with Angels of Death and can have the Standard of Maccragge Inviolate. Rock on. We can be looking at Vanguard with dual lightning claws getting 5 attacks each! Unfortunately the ancient on bike's non-relic banner still doesn't affect BIKES though! Silly situation where the only banner that doesn't affect BIKES is the one that is actually on a bike, as they have now added BIKES to all the others... I saw you wanted to use him with assault squads though. I might consider doing that too! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5381247 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted September 4, 2019 Share Posted September 4, 2019 A biker Ancient is still good though for the added mobility, T5 and maybe an extra wound. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5381270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted September 4, 2019 Author Share Posted September 4, 2019 A biker Ancient is just a delivery platform for the Vanguard and characters really. His paltry extra attack will not touch the sides in comparison. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/352148-victrix-guard/page/9/#findComment-5381663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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