thewarriorhunter Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I've been saying for a while now that I think oldmarines are going to get the Index treatment, and the new marine codex is going to be Primaris. It's obviously what GW is going to move forward with and I can't see them being kept in the same book. You'll be allowed to mix and match with the ADEPTUS ASTARTES keyword but they'll be separate books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 If it really is going to be Codex Primaris then it explains the long wait. They might release another classic Astartes book down the line too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 Nah can't see them ever releasing something for Classic Marines again. But I definitely agree that Codex Primaris does explain the long wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted March 21, 2019 Author Share Posted March 21, 2019 I hope they don't do that. It's a very complete range, I'm still adding to it from time to time. Rule updates can be tweaks to chapter tactics an strats that can go a long way. But anyways, that's going off topic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARK0SIAN Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I think it will be codex Primaris but I think we’ll get one more mixed codex before that happens. There’s just too much to do, particularly around named characters and missing roles, for codex Primaris to be a practical way forward for at least another year or two, especially the snails pace they’ve moved at with Primaris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 We all hope that, mate. Let's just not hold our breath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnkyHamHam Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I really hope we get a Codex Adeptus Astartes: Space Marines AND a Codex Adeptus Astartes: Primaris. The caveat is that all in the Index gets returned to CAA:SM. As has been pointed out, it helps with the bloat and gives the Primaris only players a lighter load, but satisfies the older players as they have their options "legalized." As well as they remain operable as a mixed force thanks to keywords. This really does seem like the best approach. I'm ok with carrying 2 codexes to field my army. Especially since the index would go away in my ideal situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I think the classic marine line will hold out for however long the remaining mold lifetimes are once the Primaris marines have a complete range. I think we may hit a patch of releases that come rules-in-box with no associated book release. In an ideal world, Chapter Approved 2019 and a codex will be all marine players need until the next big wave of marine releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Shift Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I'm interested now in Ishagu' s rumour as warhammer community have hinted quite heavily that multipart versions of the shadowspear kits are coming - presumably like chaos with a few additional releases - so I'm wondering how that ties in with a rules release if the codex isn't due yet. The vigilus 2 book is due soon I think so unless the rules are in there there must be another campaign book or supplement on the way. I doubt the imperial fists upgrade sprue was ever going to be just a splash Xmas release so maybe a sons of Dorn book or themed campaign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lemondish Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 We all hope that, mate. Let's just not hold our breath. I actually hope the opposite. I want Primaris everything as fast as possible. Give me Primaris Pedro GW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I'm interested now in Ishagu' s rumour as warhammer community have hinted quite heavily that multipart versions of the shadowspear kits are coming - presumably like chaos with a few additional releases - so I'm wondering how that ties in with a rules release if the codex isn't due yet. The vigilus 2 book is due soon I think so unless the rules are in there there must be another campaign book or supplement on the way. I doubt the imperial fists upgrade sprue was ever going to be just a splash Xmas release so maybe a sons of Dorn book or themed campaign. Could just be an "update" like what Chaos Marines are getting, with an actual new Codex coming much later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klisof Posted March 21, 2019 Share Posted March 21, 2019 I can see a GW releasing a second campaign book later this year in a new setting, including any factions that don't get specialist detachments in the vigilus books (tau, necrons etc) as well as new space marines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaxom Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I'm interested now in Ishagu' s rumour as warhammer community have hinted quite heavily that multipart versions of the shadowspear kits are coming - presumably like chaos with a few additional releases - so I'm wondering how that ties in with a rules release if the codex isn't due yet. The vigilus 2 book is due soon I think so unless the rules are in there there must be another campaign book or supplement on the way. I doubt the imperial fists upgrade sprue was ever going to be just a splash Xmas release so maybe a sons of Dorn book or themed campaign. Rules in box are my guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Sacrifice Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 If I was GW I would release a new terminator box and new tacticals, just to mess with the internet. Maybe a stand alone astartes book like Angels of Death, with all the vigilus Astartes data and new chapter specific content? All this could be solved with free downloadable rules, but that's for another conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 You want a 7th Terminator kit and a 6th Tactical kit? Nah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Sacrifice Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 Well, I wasn't asking you to make them for me, so it's all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I think a modern kit for Classic Marines is well sought after. And let's not pretend repackaging equals a redesign. The Terminator models are the same since 3rd edition! Regardless, I can't imagine GW doing it. Any new Codex will focus on Primaris and I firmly believe the separation between Classic Marines and Primaris will be establishes with a Primaris Codex and a legacy (the one now) Space Marines Codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 A new classic terminator box wouldn't be a 7th kit, it would be a replacement for the current classic terminator kit. It would probably bring the numbers down to 6 for 40k loyalist marines actually as it would likely combine standard and assault versions into 1 kit. There are so many terminator kits of different flavours though and it such a popular unit type. There are 7 loyalist versions, 3 CSM versions, 1 Space Marine Heroes version, 9 FW 30k versions with more to come, dozens of 40 and 30k terminator characters, and even 2 versions for custodes. I have a hard time believing GW wont release a new version of the classic terminators at some point in the future. We all know it would sell well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 I wouldn't but it. The Tartaros and Cataphractii kits are great, as are the chapter specific ones. Most recent plastic kits aren't even 4 years old. But that's going off topic. Please no more about how some people want to buy the same units over and over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I'd buy 10 boxes of it The other loyalist kits you mention are indeed great and recent up-to-date models, but the 2 standard terminator kits are old and have soft details. Nothing wrong with wanting new but different variations of the same unit in alternate patterns of chapter specific versions, there are many of us in the hobby who like this. Nothing wrong with buying new and improved versions of core kits either, you are going to be doing that yourself when you buy the new versions of chaos marines, terminators and abbadon. Replacing a unit with a new version does not increase overall kit numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 There is when the line is bloated and full of redundancy. And it's still off topic. I'm sure there's a topic about what classic releases people want. And I'm not hijacking it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 The argument against new Classic units because of bloat just went out the window with the new Vanguard kits. Regardless of that, GW DOES need to reduce the total number of kits for shelf space and separation of Primaris into their own Codex helps for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted March 22, 2019 Author Share Posted March 22, 2019 Well, the Vanguard are only bloat if considered alongside the classic line of Astartes. If there is indeed a Primaris only codex in the works they are much needed options for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I think a modern kit for Classic Marines is well sought after. And let's not pretend repackaging equals a redesign. The Terminator models are the same since 3rd edition! Regardless, I can't imagine GW doing it. Any new Codex will focus on Primaris and I firmly believe the separation between Classic Marines and Primaris will be establishes with a Primaris Codex and a legacy (the one now) Space Marines Codex. Hopefully when they separate the Primaris into their own codex we will get a 'sunset run' of brand new Indomitus, Veterans, Assault, Tactical, and Devastator Marines in new Chaos Scale. 5 Kits isnt too bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Idaho Posted March 22, 2019 Share Posted March 22, 2019 I've said before but Classic Marines are so modular they need to reduce the line to "Space Marines" boxed set and then separate upgrade sprues for weapons that build units. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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