Lippy Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Soooo with the codex available on Saturday, I intend on playing a game on Tuesday 20th. Helbrecht, Grim, EC nor Crusaders have their points listed in the codex do they? So that means I'll be fielding a nice mish-mash of new and old rules. Should be fun! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5366768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 At bare minimum im expecting a Primaris char and sprue. Bare minimum. Cmon WS are not popular in 40k and they got both. Sword Bros I agree, eventually. If we get our own book that's the minimum, if we're just in the Imperial Fists book then they'll get the sprues and we'll just get a couple of rules. i thought A Bikercaptain IS in the Supp No that is Khan on a bike (technically he is a captain, but not a generic one) The Khan on a bike is generic he's just not customizable because its only the equipment that is unique about it. Khan is a title not a name, the unique character's name is Kor'sarro Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5366811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 We, Imperial Fist, already got a sprue (they messed it up) but I wouldn’t have any issues with BT getting one instead. I’d like to see the Emperors champion as a Primaris Marine, and honestly I’d rather get a new Primaris special character than a ruberic of Lysander or Pedro. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5366821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 @Skeleton, well that's not the minimum, that's getting the shaft again. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5366842 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 @Skeleton, well that's not the minimum, that's getting the shaft again. You see my post on what to expect. @closet skeleton Good catch I did not see that, that's interesting. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5366852 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 @Skeleton, well that's not the minimum, that's getting the shaft again. No more than Crimson Fists if they don't get a character. If only first foundings get books I don't see CF and IF both getting a guy this time around and to be honest I'm happy for the Iron Hands to not get ignored in favour of successors again. For all I know the IF supplement will be released with the upgrade sprue and Primaris Emperor's Champion instead of Kantor or Lysander but I'll be pleasently surprised if three Primaris characters come out with one supplement. BT need a whole supplement to themselves, if they get shoved into the IF one they're not going to be fully represented. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5366860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 So do normal chaplains get access to litanies and litanies of hate or is this only a primaris thing now? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5366882 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I assume this weekend we will have some more Supplements to be released. I don't think the Impulsor will go for pre order with the sons of dorn, maybe with some other chapter with less kits to be released. I still believe that the IF supplement will have BT with CF, with their respective section, and again I do think we will be last, due to potential amount of kits. I think it will be the last release. Just because its the most important next to the Ultramarines. With IF, CF and BT they should have the greatest Fanbase and most characters in the book. So I expect IH and Salamanders next... even because IH will get a their bonus in the devastor doctrin while we had already Tacitcal and Assault bonus featered Marines. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5366893 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lippy Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 So do normal chaplains get access to litanies and litanies of hate or is this only a primaris thing now? Yes normal Chaplains, Primaris Chaplains and name Chaplains too (or at least Ultramarine's Cassius gets it with a little bit extra too) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5366894 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 BT need a whole supplement to themselves, if they get shoved into the IF one they're not going to be fully represented. it depends on how good those books are... until now they made it well. So do normal chaplains get access to litanies and litanies of hate or is this only a primaris thing now? Yes normal Chaplains, Primaris Chaplains and name Chaplains too (or at least Ultramarine's Cassius gets it with a little bit extra too) Can you tell us Cassius rules? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5366897 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Talarian Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 I haven’t noticed this mentions before, but there’s a stray, 1CP, hammer of wrath. When a jump pack unit finishes a charge, every model within 1” of an enemy rolls a dice. On a 5+ the enemy unit suffers a mortal wound. Pretty cool and a nifty little buff to our CC/JP units! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
War Angel Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Well that’s a good reason to finish my assault squad Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 If Inceptors kept their MWs on the charge then you could be dealing 2MWs on 6s. That alone might give them a good enough oomph in assault. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lippy Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 @medjugorje Chaplain Cassius knows 2 Litanies iirc. So we can expect (hope) that grimaldus will get something similar! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red_Shift Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 As an Imperial Fist collector I don't mean this in a derogatory way, but if they manage to fluff out a full book with iron hand stuff I don't really want to share a book with Templars, unless the page count goes up exponentially. You guys fully deserve your own supplement, rules and characters. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlmightyWalrus Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 That is completely fair, because I'd rather we have our own book rather than sharing it with you guys too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
balordazul Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 That is completely fair, because I'd rather we have our own book rather than sharing it with you guys too. I know right, shocking a grim dark medieval crusader theme line of space marine variants? It's like someone could make a full codex line worth of minis or variants off the main line. Or even have 10 years worth of their own codex having a bigger following then some of the first foundings. But I always thought first founding vs not being first founding was a stupid discussion. It is about having fun with your friends and finding a theme (lore and standing plus play style) that really attracts you in the game. I personally believe each of the first founding chapters should get an upgrade sprue to give them chapter only line units(1 to 3) that themed to them and their successors. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367187 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Link2edition Posted August 14, 2019 Share Posted August 14, 2019 Do we know if there will be a PDF to hold us over until we get a proper supplement? I have a tournament the week after the codex drops and was going to use a Black Tide list. TO gave me the go ahead to use the old codex if I don't have a PDF but still. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367194 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 @medjugorje Chaplain Cassius knows 2 Litanies iirc. So we can expect (hope) that grimaldus will get something similar! nothing else? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367404 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I still haven't bought anything. These goddamn cryptic teasers. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367423 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 I've ordered the codex only. May also get some drop pods... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Not even the codex. With every passing day, my hype fades. And I'm starting to feel that if we don't get anything model wise I wont even bother. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Not even the codex. With every passing day, my hype fades. And I'm starting to feel that if we don't get anything model wise I wont even bother. Why? We have a lot of good stuff going for us even without knowing what we have in the supplement. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367470 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Not even the codex. With every passing day, my hype fades. And I'm starting to feel that if we don't get anything model wise I wont even bother. Ultramarines have the worst CT. But the Supplement is CRAZY. So nothing new in here... I was hoping for a few Battlereports on youtube but the only one i´ve seen so far was a BR from our fellow brother Mordian glory. But he played a major rule completly wrong. So .... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367472 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 15, 2019 Share Posted August 15, 2019 Its my grumpiness and stubbornness I suppose. I do like the rules, but I want to start a primaris army. And if Ultras already have 3 chars, we can have 1 or 2 I reckon. Voting with my wallet (as if it made a difference) and all that. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/16/#findComment-5367475 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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