Medjugorje Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 So apparently every primogenitor will get a supplement. Would’nt be great if GW included rules for the successor chapters as well in it. Legion of Dorn style I prefer a own book. The Templar deserve it because of history and many other things (fanbase, thematic army...) @Acebaur.... thats not just a nugget^^ Did you all realise that Terminators with extra buffs like Litanies of faith and the newer reroll hitrolls buff (instead reroll failed ones) + Attack and maybe better chapter tactics and stratagems they could be the BIG winner in this Codex. @JAG-Templar... yes - me too. I dont want to be in a "Imperial Fist" Supplement - if it goes this way then please "sons of Dorn" or Supplement "Last Wall" @Tokugawa... it depends how the playstyle changes. if all FF chapters get a bunch of new things and we just get a bit more then i am very disappointed... At least if my hopes and expectations used to be higher then the outcome.... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358393 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 I am wondering wether shock assault is masking grimaldus more attractive again in this case i hope that he get completly new rules... the current rules are just.... He is THE Chaplain in the whole book - not even cassius have that Status. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Arthur Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 As much as I like Helbrecht I think if I had to choose between him and Grimaldus for the primaris treatment I’d prefer Grimaldus. Rule wise I prefer the elite buff of Helbrecht but Grimaldus is a chaplain, which fits our warrior monk aesthetic, and has shown himself to be highly resistant to death. Everything else is looking good. There’s no way they’ll forget about us and I’m sure we’ll get some good stuff in the IF supplement. I still have my fingers crossed for a primaris upgrade sprue and primaris close combat specialists but for the time it seems my first born will do quite well with the attack buff. I like a level of uniformity in my army so until we have confirmation of an upgrade sprue I’m refraining from adding primaris to my crusade. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358398 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Othniel's Blade Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 @Medjugorje ...but that's essentially what it is; just for every 1st Founding Legion/Chapter and it's successors. For Dorn, it is combining all the Last Wall in a supplement, in essence if not in name. We aren't a tack-on to Codex:Space Marines/Ultramarines any longer, we are paired with our gene-brothers and primogenitors. No losses anymore, but so much to gain. Plus, rules to create any further successors if desired. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 we will see... the past always brought hope and then... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 We need to tread carefully still. After all CF and BT are sucessor chapters, albeit the only ones excluding FW with IC. While CF are safe on the sprue department, obviously this does not confirm nor deny anything for us. It would be unfair to leave us in the dust, but I do not forget Angel's of death. Still, Vigilus got us sword brothers. So its anyone's guess. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358522 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Valrak just shared the prices for the incoming stuff. One thing caught my eye. On the white scars page it asks "This is good for you because:" The White Scars are so popular we named a paint after them..." I'm not saying this translates for a BT supplement, but God damn, it must mean something. I dont want to be reading to much into it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358563 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Where did he share it? Mind to post a link? Hope that the Templars' getting a fair treatment. Curious about the Salamanders. Compared to UMs, they don't have any official successors, so they'd need to compensate that with other fluff to fill the pages. Besides UM, I'm hyped for every supplement. :) Especially Scars, Fists and Ravens. ;) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357497-codex-space-marines-20-more-unitsvehiclescharacters/page-18 That page. Yeah fair treatment is what I hope for aswell. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Gonna be a party pooper and state that to me just reads as an attempt to get store owners to "stock up on products from us". "You're totes gonna get a lot of customers wanting to buy this white, yo" I'm just saying that not everything is a sign of any really indication or significance. I feel we won't really know for certain what they're intending to do until we start getting rumors/previews/buzz about the upcoming IF supplement we all know will be among the supplements somewhere. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358580 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kelborn Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 So the prize für one regular digital supplement ist about 12/13 € with 11,38£? And 64 pages... let's say 30/35 for fluff and the rest for rules? 20€ Not that much to cover successor chapters... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358611 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Talarian Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 It’s 64pages for the WS one, 80 pages for ultramarines one. So they vary in size, don’t despair just yet. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Think we need to wait for reviews before jumping to conclusions. I'll hold on to the faint hope that we might get a supplement, or at least some mini love. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358666 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Tyler Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 From today's Warhammer Community offering: So it looks like the codex will have basic rules for 8 Chapters (in addition to basic rules for all Chapters). How much more rules content the supplements have will (hopefully) be revealed soon. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358857 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Our new CT is a big improvement! We can now choose to reroll one charge dice and a 5++ against mortal wounds! https://www.warhammer-community.com/2019/08/05/space-marines-preview-enhanced-chapter-tacticsgw-homepage-post-1-2/ Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358862 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 I will await the rules' analysis of my brethren, but I appreciate the zeal of the flavour text. Not taking on average a third of all incoming mortal wounds does sound potent. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 This is really good. There's so many times I've wished I didn't have to re-roll one of my charge dice, and that's a really neat little anti-psyker buff. Not game breaking, but it means we can focus the stratagem on powers other than smites and not worry so much about those wounds. (In addition, a new dice roll is also a new opportunity to CP re-roll that dice if you really need to.) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358879 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Love it. Now I just need news on models and upgrade sprues. Cheeky buggers used Gathering Storm Sword Bros image. And let's not forget Angel's of Death Rule adding to that. We gonna get nasty. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358921 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneTrueZon Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 This really gets me thinking of running a MSU Black Tide list as the batreps by Modrian Glory have shown. Shaking off mortal wounds and nailing long charges with better efficiency is good for my play style. Angel of Death rule also makes my Reivers even more of a distraction carnifex than before with Shock Assault. THEN pair this with the Sword Brethren detachment with 5 company vets - Sgt gets a hammer. One other guy gets a hammer. Everyone else has swords. Everyone gets a storm shield. With +1 attack on the charge naturally + stratagem, that 5 man squad gets 9 thunder hammer attacks and 12 power sword attacks rerolling all failed wounds. Spicy. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358926 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 What's really funny is that we just gained a 5+ fnp on things like dreadnoughts taking hits from things like hellfire shells. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358936 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 This is getting me even more pumped for the codex. Now to find out what Chaplain can do for us. I am actually thinking about kitbashing 5 guys with Stalker boltrofles for backfield objectives Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358953 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Ok, so being pretty unfamiliar with 8th, Angels of Death on Sword Brethren from the detachment coming out of a Crusader is really good now, but only five models? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5358994 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 It's almost like the rules peeps have been on here and looked at our moaning! There's actually a reason now to model Stalkers? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5359006 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Re-rolling any OR all of the charge dice! 5+ save vs mortal wounds regardless if they come from witchery or an enemy lascannon - this will help both our infantry and our transports! :o Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5359026 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted August 5, 2019 Share Posted August 5, 2019 Ok, so being pretty unfamiliar with 8th, Angels of Death on Sword Brethren from the detachment coming out of a Crusader is really good now, but only five models? Yes because the SB detachment is for company vets who are max 5 man squads Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357500-discussion-on-the-new-csm-possible-bt-supplement/page/3/#findComment-5359030 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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