Shinespider Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 (edited) I haven't read the book, but I read a summary that pretty strongly contradicts the above. Only a small handful of deeply traumatized Tau want to wipe everyone out, not the Empire as a whole. It's a small, contained incident, not a radical change in the nature of the Empire. It's basically a retread of the fourth expansion sphere, which consists of edgelord Tau who behave in a more Imperialish fashion. Edited September 11, 2019 by Shinespider Panzer 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5386589 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegaVolt87 Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 And the Tau have had a “psychic awakening” in the book “War of Secrets”. They developed warp drive, but forgot the Gellar field. Every human in their fleet was massacred and now the remaining Tau want to eliminate every potential psyker in the galaxy (including the humans in the Tau Empire) to keep the possibility of any incursion from happening again. Far be it from me to take pity on those wretched enough to have turned from the Emperor's light, but damn Hopefully the humans can kick them in the teeth, then join Farsight or something. Just imagining Catachan level tough guys with Tau small arms... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5386860 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhavoc Posted September 11, 2019 Share Posted September 11, 2019 I haven't read the book, but I read a summary that pretty strongly contradicts the above. Only a small handful of deeply traumatized Tau want to wipe everyone out, not the Empire as a whole. It's a small, contained incident, not a radical change in the nature of the Empire. It's basically a retread of the fourth expansion sphere, which consists of edgelord Tau who behave in a more Imperialish fashion. The entire expansion fleet (semi-led by student of their greatest warlord ever) is not a small handful. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5386861 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 All I know is I just want Necrons to finally have some anti-psyker options since they fought the Old Ones, Eldar and Orks who are all psykers (not to mention developed the pylons and almost sealed the Eldar off from the rest of galaxy). And no, the Gloom Prism doesn't count since it's over costed, the range is too short and the model that carries it can't bemefit from character protection to make it harder to kill of on turn 1. NTaW and Khulu 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5387608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aramis K Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 All I know is I just want Necrons to finally have some anti-psyker options since they fought the Old Ones, Eldar and Orks who are all psykers (not to mention developed the pylons and almost sealed the Eldar off from the rest of galaxy). Pariahs. Maybe not with the old fluff as cyborg blanks, but perhaps with Blackstone tech. BitsHammer and Doctor Perils 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5388330 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 All I know is I just want Necrons to finally have some anti-psyker options since they fought the Old Ones, Eldar and Orks who are all psykers (not to mention developed the pylons and almost sealed the Eldar off from the rest of galaxy). Pariahs. Maybe not with the old fluff as cyborg blanks, but perhaps with Blackstone tech. That would be a start (along with fixing Tomb Spyders and Gloom Prisms and maybe adding Gloom Prisms as a Cryptek option). Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5388342 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) Orks have a gestalt psychic psychic presence that grows with the number of them but I don’t think they are a true psychic race like Eldar or Humans. Their shaman caste can channel the warp, and suffer from exposure to it, but I didn’t think they were like a psyker that can develop powers and train to master them. They’re binary. Either on or off. Hence why when Ork Gellar field analogues fail it’s practically a party for them. Humans explode and piss themselves. The orks just have some new friends for the rest of the trip. Ork lore isn’t my forte, so correct me if I’m wrong. Edited September 13, 2019 by Marshal Rohr Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5388347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted September 13, 2019 Share Posted September 13, 2019 (edited) AFAIK Weirdboyz don't channel the Warp, but the collective psychic energies of the Orks around them. They're all innately psychic, but the Orks themselves don't realize it, and only Weirdboyz can act as the "capacitor" for the energy they all give off. Edited September 13, 2019 by DeadFingers Marshal Rohr 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5388351 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) You know.... If Orks v wolves is true It would mean the recent build up in lore dark angels v tzeentvg might have then initially involved with the prospero campaign. Rampant speculation: Orks vs space wolves campaign part 1, ends with wolves falling back, * not because of the perks but because they learn da are battling t sons and tzeemtch near prospero/planet of sorceries. Orks in next part face off against gaurd, templars and angron on armegeddon. Sorceries part 1: dark angels vs tzeemtch/t sons. It's a reverse if Dulan, tzeemtch playing on darkangels need to hide)go after the fallen has the da running I'm circles getting bogged down. In part 2 Space wolves arrive, end up fighting cypher, Luther and tsons. They get cypher emprisoned and deliver him to darkangels. Angels are pissed, but wolves/russ say delete the records ( ala lion deleting heresey records if wulfen). Edited September 14, 2019 by Triszin Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5388948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 (edited) I'd love to see the Dark Angels do something that doesn't involve the Fallen for once :P Edited September 14, 2019 by Marshal Loss Marshal Rohr, MegaVolt87, Bryan Blaire and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5388970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 14, 2019 Share Posted September 14, 2019 Someone mentioned Necrons. I'd love to see the Silent King! MegaVolt87 and Doctor Perils 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5388978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vermintide Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Someone mentioned Necrons. I'd love to see the Silent King! That would be pretty huge. That'd be more or less like the Emperor himself getting tabletop stats, right? Personally I would love to see the C'Tan shown some love. They're STAR GODS for crying out loud. They have some power, they should have some Tyranid like warp presence. And they certainly shouldn't be pokemon. Also Pariahs like someone mentioned before. Although, I've been pretending that's what my Lychguard are this whole time. Legionnaire of the VIIth and Marshal Loss 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5389007 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 (edited) Someone mentioned Necrons. I'd love to see the Silent King! That would be pretty huge. That'd be more or less like the Emperor himself getting tabletop stats, right? Personally I would love to see the C'Tan shown some love. They're STAR GODS for crying out loud. They have some power, they should have some Tyranid like warp presence. And they certainly shouldn't be pokemon. Also Pariahs like someone mentioned before. Although, I've been pretending that's what my Lychguard are this whole time. Phil Kelly wrote an article about the different ‘tiers’ of Gods in AoS and it seems like with the coming of Guilliman and the Daemon Primarchs they’re moving towards that in 40k too. Won’t go into specifics about AoS but you can see how Abaddon is super powerful but in a different way to the Daemon Primarchs who are different to Guilliman. The Silent King could very much be an Abaddon/Guilliman tier God. Ghazghkull could as well. Edited September 15, 2019 by Marshal Rohr Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5389047 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Ghaz would be deamon primarchs tier imho Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5389055 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Felix Antipodes Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I will be very surprised if we don't get another Primarch during this series of campaigns. While my money is on Corax (for no particular reason or evidence) they could be from either side of the divide. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5389271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I will be very surprised if we don't get another Primarch during this series of campaigns. While my money is on Corax (for no particular reason or evidence) they could be from either side of the divide. Corax is apparently a Daemon thing himself now, or something like that. A creature made of Shadows Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5389300 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionnaire of the VIIth Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 I will be very surprised if we don't get another Primarch during this series of campaigns. While my money is on Corax (for no particular reason or evidence) they could be from either side of the divide. Corax is apparently a Daemon thing himself now, or something like that. A creature made of Shadows So he has become something akin to a Mandrake? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5389386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted September 15, 2019 Share Posted September 15, 2019 Yeah, he had a short story of him hunting down Lorgar in the warp just before he secludes himself and in Apocalypse a Word Bearer mentions Corax being a spooky legend in their demon planet so if Lorgar is out then Corax will certainly follow him out of the warp. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5389391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted September 16, 2019 Share Posted September 16, 2019 We find out more info today? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5389907 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Dark eldar vs eldar. Banshees vs incubi Jain zaar vs ahra? I wonder if this will be a box set and if it will double basva yannari boxaet. Also, eldar civil war? Maybe another new godling of the darkeldar vs yannari? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5390801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 Dark eldar vs eldar. Banshees vs incubi Jain zaar vs ahra? I wonder if this will be a box set and if it will double basva yannari boxaet. Also, eldar civil war? Maybe another new godling of the darkeldar vs yannari? Sounds very unprimaris...it's been like a week now with no new models for us, what the hell is going on at GW?! Sete, RikuEru, Red_Shift and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5390865 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legionnaire of the VIIth Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 (edited) Dark eldar vs eldar. Banshees vs incubi Jain zaar vs ahra? I wonder if this will be a box set and if it will double basva yannari boxaet. Also, eldar civil war? Maybe another new godling of the darkeldar vs yannari? Sounds very unprimaris...it's been like a week now with no new models for us, what the hell is going on at GW?! They have finally unlocked the closet so that the non-space marine and non-primaris workers in the studio can actually come out and show their work? I'm sure some punishment will be coming down for them being released and for the IP to focus on something else for a bit. Edit: Have I missed a bit of lore that has actually confirmed Drazhar as being Arha instead of just being speculation? Edited September 17, 2019 by Legionnaire of the VIIth Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5391025 Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 It's a reverse if Dulan, tzeemtch playing on darkangels need to hide)go after the fallen has the da running I'm circles getting bogged down. In part 2 Space wolves arrive, end up fighting cypher, Luther and tsons. They get cypher emprisoned and deliver him to darkangels. Angels are pissed, but wolves/russ say delete the records ( ala lion deleting heresey records if wulfen). Reverse Dulan would be an absolutely baller move after Warzone Fenris. “We’re even.” *mic drop Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5391036 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted September 17, 2019 Share Posted September 17, 2019 I guess I should bring this here too. Drazhar Vs. Jain Zar by Igor Sid, apparently a piece from 2018, but surfacing just now and not seen before. I don't think anyone could argue that this is not exactly what is going down in Phoenix Rising, considering the recent reveals and rumours. It seems they might finally settle the "mystery" of who Drazhar really is, which would fit the title. And speaking of rumours, this is exactly what Kikasstou's rumours predicted. He mentioned Incubi before they were revealed, promised a new model for a Dark Eldar character that "was never updated", which people guessed was Drazhar, and asked cheekily "who could be leading the Banshees? " (paraphrasing from French, but the cheekiness stands). For the moment, he's been spot on, which means that his other rumours are gaining a lot of credibility, so... Maybe we should start making space on our shelves for the big bad green? Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5391092 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted September 18, 2019 Share Posted September 18, 2019 Leaks approacheth? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/357547-pyschic-awakening-speculation/page/15/#findComment-5391734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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