Dark Shepherd Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 This is cynical but doesnt seem to have been brought up much, giant Ghaz wont have character protection from shooting so will get squished Or Meta seems to be high volume fire rather than AP and cc to deal with melee units so if he is reasonable points he changes the meta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 This is cynical but doesnt seem to have been brought up much, giant Ghaz wont have character protection from shooting so will get squished Or Meta seems to be high volume fire rather than AP and cc to deal with melee units so if he is reasonable points he changes the meta One of the ideas I've got that might get him around that is if he's 9 wounds and Makari is basically a 4 wound grot shield he can take as an upgrade. that'd give him a 2++ against high damage shots (that probably won't survive if you roll that 1) but we'll have to wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 This is cynical but doesnt seem to have been brought up much, giant Ghaz wont have character protection from shooting so will get squished Or Meta seems to be high volume fire rather than AP and cc to deal with melee units so if he is reasonable points he changes the meta One of the ideas I've got that might get him around that is if he's 9 wounds and Makari is basically a 4 wound grot shield he can take as an upgrade. that'd give him a 2++ against high damage shots (that probably won't survive if you roll that 1) but we'll have to wait and see. Cant see him being only 9 wounds as he definitely looks bigger than bobby g Not an Ork player but how he interacts with Makari will be interesting, a 2 +++ shield strikes me as being OP on anything thats not near defenceless without it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 This is cynical but doesnt seem to have been brought up much, giant Ghaz wont have character protection from shooting so will get squished Or Meta seems to be high volume fire rather than AP and cc to deal with melee units so if he is reasonable points he changes the meta One of the ideas I've got that might get him around that is if he's 9 wounds and Makari is basically a 4 wound grot shield he can take as an upgrade. that'd give him a 2++ against high damage shots (that probably won't survive if you roll that 1) but we'll have to wait and see. Cant see him being only 9 wounds as he definitely looks bigger than bobby g Not an Ork player but how he interacts with Makari will be interesting, a 2 +++ shield strikes me as being OP on anything thats not near defenceless without it Makari is like the cross between a Shadowfield and a Sheild Drone in my head. And who knows, maybe Ghaz will have some other buffs to protect himself with. He'll need to be tougher than a knight if he doesn't have the character protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Triszin Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 for ghaz. I suspect he will have a variety of things to mitigate damage, even from snipers. I half expect him to have 14-16 hp layered defenses high HP, high toughness, Damage reduction, invuln save and a fnp save when wounds taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Or he'll just get shot off the board, like Daemon Primarchs, Disco Lords and Co, simple as that. ^^ Dark Shepherd and Zephaniah Adriyen 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Or he'll just get shot off the board, like Daemon Primarchs, Disco Lords and Co, simple as that. ^^ So he'll be good for about three weeks then? Dark Shepherd 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Or he'll just get shot off the board, like Daemon Primarchs, Disco Lords and Co, simple as that. ^^ So he'll be good for about three weeks then? Why for so long? And why should that matter? It'll be a cool model. That's all that matters for GW. ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Or he'll just get shot off the board, like Daemon Primarchs, Disco Lords and Co, simple as that. ^^ So he'll be good for about three weeks then? Why for so long? And why should that matter? It'll be a cool model. That's all that matters for GW. ^^ Until the first FAQ drops and kicks him in his bionic kneecap. And cool model is usually enough for me, but even I point out things and go "golly gee" now and then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) Someone sent me a message stating this Saturday should be a video, I hope its bull crap because I'm away all weekend Edited February 27, 2020 by Chapter Master Valrak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Someone sent me a message stating this Saturday should be a video, I hope its bull crap because I'm away all weekend GW has shown a history of doing big releases when you're unavailable. painting.for.my.sanity, Kastor Krieg and Chapter Master Valrak 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Im with Herr Panzer, an army geared up to shoot a knight to bits will squish him Maybe he'll counter intercessor spam. Teleport shenanigans might be the way to play him...if ghaz can deep strike...now thats interesting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Valkenhayn Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 All Ork units can deep strike, and orks aren't as reliant on it as Khorne daemons, while also having an easier time building up the CP. Between that, Ork charge rerolls, and hopefully some nice tweaks and buffs in the new book, a deep striking Ghaz might actually work to some extent. He'd be better off than a Bloodthirster at any rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaldoth Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On non Saga of the Beast stuff, these two pieces of art were posted on the Warhammer official Instagram page https://www.instagram.com/p/B9CFwj0ps6d/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link https://www.instagram.com/p/B9E4Um4I_g2/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Considering the Necrons, Harlequins, and DG haven't been featured yet maybe this is GW teasing the featured factuons for War of the Spider? Oxydo, RolandTHTG and Zephaniah Adriyen 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephaniah Adriyen Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 All Ork units can deep strike What is it with Xenos armies and having an army-wide deepstrike? I thought I was sneaky with my Phobos-heavy Raven Guard. Then I found out every single GSC Infantry and Biker unit can deepstrike. And now I'm finding out all Orks can deepstrike? What is this nonsense? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 I'm guessing that's through use of Da Jump. Also, as per article about Aleya and Valerian, Custodes and Sisters of Silence will get Talons of the Emperor rules. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Panzer Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 All Ork units can deep strike What is it with Xenos armies and having an army-wide deepstrike? I thought I was sneaky with my Phobos-heavy Raven Guard. Then I found out every single GSC Infantry and Biker unit can deepstrike. And now I'm finding out all Orks can deepstrike? What is this nonsense? Well GSC being super sneaky is nothing new or surprising, really. And the Orks are about as sneaky as Blood Angels lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gederas Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) All Ork units can deep strike What is it with Xenos armies and having an army-wide deepstrike? I thought I was sneaky with my Phobos-heavy Raven Guard. Then I found out every single GSC Infantry and Biker unit can deepstrike. And now I'm finding out all Orks can deepstrike? What is this nonsense? I'm guessing that's through use of Da Jump. Also, as per article about Aleya and Valerian, Custodes and Sisters of Silence will get Talons of the Emperor rules. All Ork units can deep strikeWhat is it with Xenos armies and having an army-wide deepstrike? I thought I was sneaky with my Phobos-heavy Raven Guard. Then I found out every single GSC Infantry and Biker unit can deepstrike. And now I'm finding out all Orks can deepstrike? What is this nonsense?Well GSC being super sneaky is nothing new or surprising, really. And the Orks are about as sneaky as Blood Angels lol Da Jump is gameplay redeployment, their army-wide Deepstrike is this: Tellyporta (2 CP): During deployment, you can deep strike any Ork unit with a Power Level of 20 or less instead of setting it up normally. If you deepstrike a transport, only the transport's PL cost counts. And since it's a Deployment Stratagem, you can use it a LOT of times. Edited February 27, 2020 by Gederas Zephaniah Adriyen, XIXWYRMEXIX, Marshal Valkenhayn and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 Da Jump is gameplay redeployment, their army-wide Deepstrike is this: Tellyporta (2 CP): During deployment, you can deep strike any Ork unit with a Power Level of 20 or less instead of setting it up normally. If you deepstrike a transport, only the transport's PL cost counts. And since it's a Deployment Stratagem, you can use it a LOT of times. Ghaz confirmed @ 400+ pts ;) Zephaniah Adriyen 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 On non Saga of the Beast stuff, these two pieces of art were posted on the Warhammer official Instagram page https://www.instagram.com/p/B9CFwj0ps6d/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link https://www.instagram.com/p/B9E4Um4I_g2/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link Considering the Necrons, Harlequins, and DG haven't been featured yet maybe this is GW teasing the featured factuons for War of the Spider? Dang, I like that dragon crest on that Eldar helm in the first link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 What if they just straight up give Ghaz a jump pack? :P We haven't really seen his back right (other than that RE that's quite likely him)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeadFingers Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 (edited) What if they just straight up give Ghaz a jump pack? We haven't really seen his back right (other than that RE that's quite likely him)? We have and it's indeed the Rumour (V8) Engine. I really hope we get to see him before the week's over. Edited February 27, 2020 by DeadFingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Caerolion Posted February 27, 2020 Share Posted February 27, 2020 I love the crank-handle. Can't get the image out of my head of him being in an epic showdown, then his armour just put-put-putting to a halt, then everyone just standing around awkwardly while Ghaz bellows for Mekhari to start him back up again. Zephaniah Adriyen, nanosquid, Dark Shepherd and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Yncarne Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 I’m sorry if this was asked previously, are there any rumors of a stratagem deck being released, perhaps as a combined PA deck after the books? Carry on with the Ghaz stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiñaColada Posted February 28, 2020 Share Posted February 28, 2020 Good shout on that Ghaz back picture, gotta hope for rocket-boots now! :P In regards to PA stratagem cards, I don't seem to recall that ever being mentioned. But it's quite possible all these new things will be rolled into a next wave of codices in the future I suppose.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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