PeteySödes Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Not the thread for this current line of discussion, let’s keep on topic. My mod and Dad hats are in agreement here, “Life’s not fair”. To steer a better direction, areally cool idea came up in the N&R thread that would allow us to have our cake and eat it too. In case anyone missed it: I wonder if the SW will fight Orks, but not the goffa and Ghaz but another Warband. That way both SW get their "win" while Ghaz goes uncontested and whoever the SW hero (character) doesn't get "krumped".This makes a lot of sense. In the map it shows a bunch of places all over the galaxy where there was a Beast sighting. Could be wolves just chasing down a bunch lieutenants and killing them thinking they finally got the beast. Could also be Ghaz teleporting around and the Wolves chasing his trail. Would totally allow us to not get wailed on (again) but also give Orks their time in the sun. Ive had to fight my ork friends wazzdakka lists in the past so much I wouldn’t mind those kickings become canon. :lol: Triszin and Jarl Caldersson 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I suspect most of the pa series is laying the ground work for big campaigns. Startide, armegeddon, etc. I have no idea what to expect out of pa6. :/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Caldersson Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I suspect most of the pa series is laying the ground work for big campaigns. Startide, armegeddon, etc. I have no idea what to expect out of pa6. :/ Return of Russ >.> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OgreOnAStick Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Careful when talking about Ragnar, the monkey's paw that is GW's content designers is always listening for bellyaching. We could end up with Wulfen Ragnar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuEru Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I suspect most of the pa series is laying the ground work for big campaigns. Startide, armegeddon, etc. I have no idea what to expect out of pa6. :/ Return of Russ >.> Love how you call for us to be reasonable and temper our expectations, just on the page before, and now say this ^^ +++++++++++++++++++++ One thing is for certain: We will get new rules, in some form or another. Let's just hope they are good enough to be viable enough and useful spice things up - while not being overpowered else they'll be nerfed/FAQed into the ground. Anything else we expect is far too much. PA6 would be far too small for something grand - like Logan to die, Ragnar to become the Young King, Russ to return, Bulveye to return, etc. - to happen. There's not enough room in the book to portray that really well. I really hope the PA books are just teasers or set-ups for bigger, more elaborated campaigns. And to be honest, I'd rather like us to take a step back and let the Orks have the central spotlight, so Ghaz (in his "new" role as Beast-like Leader of all Orks) can get some proper development - on the few lore pages the PA has to offer. We would want the same for Ragnar's Rise or Russ' Return (a lot of Rrrrrrrr in those, btw.). It would be a bad experience, even for us SW fans on the opposing side, if this book can't portray Ghaz as an even bigger danger than he used to be. And yea, sure... Ragnar needs an update, as one of the oldest character models. But to be honest Krom or Haldor or the Dark Imperium Lieutenant or other Primaris together with parts from both our Upgrade Sprues can be easily made into a kitbashed Upsized/Primaris Ragnar. Ragnar was not updated with Warzone Fenris either, we can wait a little longer for that. I'd rather that comes with a 'big' chapter-specific release wave and a more SW-dedicated Campaign Book (= bigger book, more room for story and lore, aided by a novel release, whatever) later on. What i'd like to see, would be a character/kit like Master Lazarus. Something we can make a new named Primaris Wolf Lord with a fixed load-out out of, but also 'our own' Wolf Lord/WGBL. (= Also more kitbashing opportunities!) It would also probably tempt us to buy more than just one ;D Anyway... We'll see, brothers and sisters, we'll see soon enough. And whatever comes next, we'll make the best out of it. NightHowler 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeke160 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Dunno if anyone’s seen it yet, it we’re on the back of this Month’s White Dwarf. No clue what this could mean for us though. Here’s a pic. Sorry for the link, I’m on mobile at the moment. https://imgur.com/gallery/bnd2uYB TiguriusX, Triszin and Harald Fairmane 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 That Looks like 5 infiltrators/incursors 5 helblasters 5 intercessors 3 aggressors Thoughts. It's most likely not a box set, just showing a wide range of primaris as wolves. 5% tinfoil hat. If it were a boxset that's exactly what I would suspect would be in it for wolves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I also can’t help but notice that the Space Wolves have those Orks exactly where they want them. No matter which way they shoot they’re going to hit something. Wolf Guard Dan 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeteySödes Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) I also can’t help but notice that the Space Wolves have those Orks exactly where they want them. No matter which way they shoot they’re going to hit something. Though i cant help but laugh at the Sgt. who's pointing in the opposite direction to the deff dread directly behind him... Edited February 21, 2020 by PeteySödes NightHowler 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightHowler Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Maybe he’s saying, “after we kill this deff dread, we’ll kill THAT deff dread over there.” PeteySödes 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Caldersson Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) I suspect most of the pa series is laying the ground work for big campaigns. Startide, armegeddon, etc. I have no idea what to expect out of pa6. :/ Return of Russ >.>Love how you call for us to be reasonable and temper our expectations, just on the page before, and now say this ^^++++++++++++++++++++. It was a joke hence ">.>", but I do legit think that PA6 is leading up to the Russ. This is a new storyline we haven't seen before, that we don't know the end result. Other PAs we know the end result was as PA were filling in the past. However SW vs Orks is new, we don't know what is going on with it. The only information we have about Orks is Logan dismissing them in Ashes. Now however we see they are a serious threat Edited February 21, 2020 by Jarl Caldersson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TiguriusX Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Maybe he’s saying, “after we kill this deff dread, we’ll kill THAT deff dread over there.” He is an infiltrator...he doesn't know you have to look behind you once in a while NightHowler 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 That white dwarf is due out in a month yeah? Doubt therell be a anything meaty in it for us, maybe a battle report and some painting stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Does PA take place before or after Ashes of Prospero? Is ashes even considered canon? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 ashes is soft cannon, and I feel now retconned soft cannon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Caldersson Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Does PA take place before or after Ashes of Prospero? Is ashes even considered canon? Soft cannon as Triszin said and is in the future I believe. SW have fully embraced Primaris and I *think* it mentions Guilliman beating back Mortarion, which puts it current timeline. Triszin 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 Any modern SW novel not written by Chris Wraight (or ADB) is hearsay bordering on heresy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harald Fairmane Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Ouff Nothing from the reveals either.. it was dark but now it's looking really grim.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RikuEru Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Any modern SW novel not written by Chris Wraight (or ADB) is hearsay bordering on heresy Robbie MacNieven's Curse of the Wulfen Stories were mighty fine - especially for a BL-beginner, back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lonewolf81 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 it was expected to give nothing away related to saga of the beast during toyfair...they have to drop a clue/teaser during the weekend though...damn that radio silence :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf Guard Dan Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 If Ashes happened after PA then there’s zero chance the theory of Ragnar becoming the great wolf is possible. Which is good because Grimnar > Ragnar. It does leave it open for Ragnar to become primaris at some point before Ashes because I don’t think he’s mentioned in that story. PA6 probably won’t feature a new model for us. No smoke = no fire. Let’s hope we get awesome rules so our beloved mods don’t have to start freezing our threads lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bryan Blaire Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 While I hold out some modicum of hope for a SW vs. Orks box down the line again, it's entirely possible that someone saw only the left corner of the Rise of the Orks box (Toy Fair reveal today) and thought it was a SW vs. Orks campaign style box, especially since the supposed bikes and heavy Speeder pixelated image is in Ultramarines and Blood Angels colors. Don't think anyone should get their hopes up about a box like that now. Wouldn't be the first time a rumor was based on a misunderstanding of what someone was looking at or got altered due to a lack of context or the "telephone" game where words change down the line. Triszin 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Triszin Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 soonest I expect any new information is monday ( another short story) then tuesday something of actual substance revealed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Shepherd Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 Any modern SW novel not written by Chris Wraight (or ADB) is hearsay bordering on heresyRobbie MacNieven's Curse of the Wulfen Stories were mighty fine - especially for a BL-beginner, back then. His was the better of the 2, but the normally awesome David Annandale's one was really bad. Good start though. Bit of an aside but preview chapter of Lukas the Trickster put me right off it though so I might be an SW novel snob Weird cannon issue but those books were planned product tie ins IIRC but Wulfen were said to be armed with relic giant axes and SWORDS. Gallowglas Wulfen wouldve or would be so cool Apologies if Im being way too off topic but were the William King books the first fleshed out Wulfen lore? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarl Caldersson Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 If Ashes happened after PA then there’s zero chance the theory of Ragnar becoming the great wolf is possible. Which is good because Grimnar > Ragnar. It does leave it open for Ragnar to become primaris at some point before Ashes because I don’t think he’s mentioned in that story. This has been said multiple times yet people seem to ignore that fact of information for their idea of Ragnar to be the Great Wolf. Ragnar becoming the Great Wolf is ancient lore, and while still possible, with primarchs coming back a more likely and bigger selling possibility is Russ returning to his mantle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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