Banjulhu Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Alright brothers, I have some news. Grimaldus knows 2 litanies plus the Litany of Hate and can recite 2 per turn. His Unmatched Zeal is still there and is now unmodified 6's (TH and PF everywhere rejoiced!) He can also Deny the Witch once per psychic phase. His crozius is now +2S -2AP 2D. Still 90 points, same stats and other gear as before. If he's your Warlord he must take the WLT that GW posted in our preview. Which means that he can do it twice There are 8 Strats, 6 Relics, full WLT table and our other unique units all got rules buffs. That's all I can say for now. 8 Strats? Did they run out of ideas making so many new ones for the other Chapters? Maybe the Templar will be the shining example of quality over quantity. Looks at Shock and Awe. Huh! Maybe not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) So we got 7 to see. How many did the other chapters had? Edit: how is an epub out of stock? LMAO Edited November 16, 2019 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Maybe less strats because we can use the IF...? CF only got two. (Maybe three?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 Maybe less strats because we can use the IF...? CF only got two. (Maybe three?) It's a possibility, but I would not count on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banjulhu Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 The supplements have around 15 extra stratagems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 This isn't supplement tier then. So epub is sold out to force people to buy physical editions, and we didnt even had the usual previews. This does not fill me with confidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 There may be more next week because of the odd two week pre-order? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) How is a virtual item sold out? That's my question. You give them money for a download. Edited November 16, 2019 by Sete painting.for.my.sanity 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 It may be related to the data cards, they don't come with the epub. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimson cowboy Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I’m still waiting just to pre order in general Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 The supplements have around 15 extra stratagems. Ya know if they wanted to release a supp later on for BT with minis they would just add 6 strats new artwork and call it a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Vespasian Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 winters seo has the bt part reviewed here. also has chaos Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) Can someone do a quick overview for those at work? I have a feeling this will be OGmarines focused. Just because our Chapter Specific stuff has no primaris included. Edited November 16, 2019 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 How is a virtual item sold out? That's my question. You give them money for a download. Because epubs are actually purchased via the apple platform which sets a download number, according to my local WS manager. If games wants to sell their book on itunes it's a certain fee for 5 000 downlaos, more for 10 000, etc... I have ordered my (physical) copy and - on request from aforementioned manager - dropped a few of my Templars in the front window as a thematic army (he's also awaiting an old SoB army), please excuse the quality, it is currently very rainy in southwestern France. Also discussed the various BT leaks with the tournament crew, they seem to think our rules so far were quite good (not the best but on par with WS at least). They hadn't seen the full thing though. templargdt, Sete, redmapa and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted November 16, 2019 Author Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) That's ridiculous but thanks for the explanation. Good news our rules are not terrible then Edited November 16, 2019 by Sete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Xero Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 8 Strats? Did they run out of ideas making so many new ones for the other Chapters? Quality is important, not quantity. Mono Space Marines armies have insufficiently CPs for using all good strats in dexes. I hope that our strategems will be awesome. Fingers crossed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadman Wade Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) Guerilla Miniature Games on youtube did full review of Faith and Fury https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raOS5Z1IQwg Edited November 16, 2019 by Deadman Wade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ciler Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Here's another review with legible pictures : https://youtu.be/aQ23BZfsYRI?t=1766 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I've not listened. (There's no need to actually watch, he doesn't show the insides) I've seen one person say that he says there is nothing to stop us using IF stuff... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Now that the reviews are up I can answer any questions. My impression is that we are quite good, not IH pants on head good, but we have some really great rules. templargdt, Hadda and BLACK BLΠFLY 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Xero Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Guerilla Miniature Games on youtube did full review of Faith and Fury https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=raOS5Z1IQwg BT start at 17th minute Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 I listened to the Winters Overview and was quite disappointed but it’s 1am here and I really need to sit down and listen again. In his review though, he mentions that as IF successors we have access to their stuff, but I would want to actually read the book before taking his word on that! The keeping units in combat strat is 2CP and only against infantry and on a 2+. Couple of nice relics including a 3” bubble of 4+ invuln save. And Grimaldus is definitely worth a take now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acebaur Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) Here are my notes on the dex So BT Chappies can take the standard Litanies or you can take the Devout ones 1 is pick a unit within 6", that unit gains 5+++ (FNP) 2. All units within 6" re-roll melee wound rolls of 1 3. -2 Leadership to enemy units within 6" 4. Select unit within 6", if they charge or HI +1 Attacks 5. Add 3" to range of aura abilities while within 6" of the chaplain 6. Choose a unit within 6", they always fight first Grimaldis knows 2 Litanies + Litany of Hate and can recite 2/turn He also give exploding 6s on melee attacks within 6" and can DTW once/psychic phase So the EC is 6" 2+ 3+ 4 4 4 5 9 Sv 2+/4++ +1 A/Str while within 1" of enemy CHARACTERs, -1 to hit in melee, re-roll melee hits vs CHARACTERs Black Sword is S+2 -3 d3 dmg, re-roll wounds vs CHARACTER or MONSTER Which means with Helbrecht nearby he's S8 vs CHARACTERS...wounding most on 2s, re-rollable Grimmy is 90 points Helbrecht is 150 EC is 75 1CP to pile in and consolidate up to 6" 1CP DtW on 4+ 1CP Advance, fire pistols, and charge 1CP SCOUT unit re-roll wounds 1CP when you Fight, every Save roll of 6 causes a mortal wound Use this strat in the Fight phase. Select one BLACK TEMPLARS SCOUT unit from your army that made a charge or was charged this turn. Until the end of that phase, when resolving an attack makde with a melee weapon by a model in that unit, you can re-roll the wound roll 2CP, enemy within 1" can't fall back on a 2+ PAIRED COMBATANTS: Whilst this unit contains at least as many Initiaties as Neophytes, when resolving an attack made with a melee weapon by a Neophyte in this unit, re-roll a hit roll of 1 Crusader helm +3" to aura abilities (up to 12"). Additionally, start of Movement phase, pick a BT unit within 6" and that unit has the Assault Doctrine active for it until your next Movement phase Witchseeker bolts: you can shoot a psyker character like a sniper, and a hit equals D3 mortals in addtion to any any other damage Aurillian Shroud -- once/battle all friendly BT units within 3" have a 4++ invul Skull of the Cacodominus Once per battle, after a witch does a power within 12", roll a D6, on a 2+ they take D3 mortals Sword of Judgement: replaces power sword, S+1, AP -3, flat 3 damage So....6 total, plus all the ones in Codex WLTs 1. HI within 6" and can move up to 6" to do it 2. WL can DtW once/psychic phase, +1 to result 3. When WL finishes Charge move, for each enemy within 1" roll a D6, on a 2+ that unit suffers 1 mortal wound 4. WL always fights first 5. Melee attacks within 6" wound roll of 6 improves' AP by 1 6. BT units within 6" +1 to Advance and Charge Edited November 16, 2019 by Acebaur Marshal Xero, templargdt, Schlitzaf and 4 others 7 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyliadan Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 (edited) Edit : ahah nevermind I'm a slow typer and Acebaur totally overtook me :D Edited November 16, 2019 by Kyliadan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ado Posted November 16, 2019 Share Posted November 16, 2019 Thanks Acebaur! Actually better than my initial reaction! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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