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My theory is that we are getting dumped on in p4 and they don't want to experience the backlash upfront . Could you imagine if psychic 4 is just an awful rules release. How the community would react, how terrible sales would be. You might see someone finally flip a table in anger at GW

You guys think they somehow #$&+¥%©πed up the time tables or something? Perhaps they released Lazarus by christmas by mistake?

 

Because it looks like another week two, or even three that we will only be getting not-PA4 stuff.

 

:/

Edited by Berzul

You guys think they somehow #$&+¥%©πed up the time tables or something? Perhaps they released Lazarus by christmas by mistake?

 

Because it looks like another week two, or even three that we will only be getting not-PA4 stuff.

 

:/

Nah I think they just thought that more sister stuff on Christmas would be boring, they have to do some teaser for PA4 at some point, and DA are the closest next thing on the slot.

That was one weak teaser....

 

Why do I always have the feeling like we are the chapter that GW likes the least?

 

Is it just me? Or am I just particularly jaded at this point?

Hey, we're not Black Templars and we're not Grey Knights. We're like the middle child in a large family. Not hated, but not sure anyone cares about us either.

Edited by Aztek

That was one weak teaser....

 

Why do I always have the feeling like we are the chapter that GW likes the least?

 

Is it just me? Or am I just particularly jaded at this point?

 

As Aztek said there is still worse.

Still between the outdated DA range, the lack of a start collecting box, the "Dark Angels are heretics" meme, the endless Unforgiven/Fallen emo circle jerk, the crappy rules, especially the rules "vs Fallen" that nobody plays, the "Lion is awake but not coming yet", ... between all of that it feels like we're some kind of masochists to have picked that army.

 

BUT

 

Forgeworld is going to release a lot of good stuff for us this year (all of their DA release are great IMO).

PA4 may seize the opportunity to bring us on par with the rest of the meta (not at an Iron Hands power level hopefully).

Though i probably won't play them there is some nice Primaris stuff coming (that would be great for Ravenwing).

Ninth Edition is coming in 5 months and given SM's already got their codex BA/SW/DA shouldn't wait long to be updated.

The Lion not waking up and Fallens eluding us won't be on a hold fluff-wise forever, at some point GW will move the plot and we will rejoice.

Edited by Chaplain Elijah

 

That was one weak teaser....

 

Why do I always have the feeling like we are the chapter that GW likes the least?

 

Is it just me? Or am I just particularly jaded at this point?

 

As Aztek said there is still worse.

Still between the outdated DA range, the lack of a start collecting box, the "Dark Angels are heretics" meme, the endless Unforgiven/Fallen emo circle jerk, the crappy rules, especially the rules "vs Fallen" that nobody plays, the "Lion is awake but not coming yet", ... between all of that it feels like we're some kind of masochists to have picked that army.

 

BUT

 

Forgeworld is going to release a lot of good stuff for us this year (all of their DA release are great IMO).

PA4 may seize the opportunity to bring us on par with the rest of the meta (not at an Iron Hands power level hopefully).

Though i probably won't play them there is some nice Primaris stuff coming (that would be great for Ravenwing).

Ninth Edition is coming in 5 months and given SM's already got their codex BA/SW/DA shouldn't wait long to be updated.

The Lion not waking up and Fallens eluding us won't be on a hold fluff-wise forever, at some point GW will move the plot and we will rejoice.

 

 

Right, there is still worse, but it's not making it better, that the first is treated kind of shabby. I started in the 6th Edition with a Codex, that was all but great, but in retrospective the most well eloberated we had ever since. The 7th Edition-Codex was a copy-pasted patchwork with many incredibly awful illustrations in it, whose rules were never playtested (speaking of 2+ rerollable jinksave...). And I'm not even talking about the missing Supplement everyone was waiting for, while literally every other chapter got an extension in one or the other way. No words left for our current codex, which is just an embarressment for the rulewriters in Nottingham. 

 

I just hope, that they will do a more or less good job. A fluff-part in which you can feel some effort and well conceived rules for the Deathwing / Ravenwing. Not wishing for anything OP at all.

As dark Angel players we should be use to disappointment by now

My biggest worry about psychic awakening is we are going to have poor rules which would not surprise me at all. I started playing dark Angels back in 2nd with the angels of death codex and in that time we have had one Dex on par with the marines Dex and that was last edition. I just don't trust gw to give anything other than codex marines and eldar good rules now.they clearly don't listen to there playtesters case in point the totally broken iron hands Dex

 

I hope I'm wrong and psychic awakening is a good step in the right direction but going by gws track record when it comes to dark Angels I just don't belive it

Everybody moaning about how bad Is DA codex compared to Codex Marines

I remind you that the Codex Marines book was often One of the weakest ones in astartes line

The Codex marines started to be Better only in 6th edition but in 7th edition the DA one was one of the strongest codexes with that insane RW list

 

Now DA codex is suffering like GK, DW and SW cause they are still not updated by the PA books

 

We have to wait some weeks to have PA4 in our hands and then we can moan if the rules will be ugly

 

I was often unhappy about our codexes but i want to wait PA4 and then start to complain or not

 

P.S.: about the "no preview a about PA4 but they show Shadowsun for PA5! they have abandoned us!" drama

They showed Just a single model like they did with Lazarus/Master for PA4

Don't worry we Will have some rules preview about PA4 in few weeks while there Will be a longer wait for PA5 leaks

No news for rules which is terribad I am a sad panda and worried we will be getting coal for Christmas

 

From today's WC article:

 

 

Primaris Master, armed with a bolt carbine with special issue ammunition and a power fist

 

Guessing it'll be the same profile as Sternguard special ammunition.

I think that too

What worries me is that GW will go again for the monobuild so we will not be able to mix the things like to give the PF to Lazarus to make a BP+PF MAster or the PS to the Bolt carabine one to create another loadout (or to mix the options from the vanilla captain with the DA MAster to create new loadouts)

The only good thing is that we will able to use the new model with a plasma pistol from another kit to recreate the loadout from the limited edition Primaris Captain

From reddit :

 

 

Lazarus can exchange his sword for the powerfist option it isn't special just an option.

His boltgun is a bolt carbine and has special issue ammunition like deathwatch do as well as being master crafted. But is otherwise unremarkable.

Sword is power axe stats dealing d3 mortal wounds to psykers on a 6 to wound.

Could see using him along my Aggressors against the Thousand Sons player in my club, we'll see.

Edited by Chaplain Elijah

From reddit :

 

 

Lazarus can exchange his sword for the powerfist option it isn't special just an option.

His boltgun is a bolt carbine and has special issue ammunition like deathwatch do as well as being master crafted. But is otherwise unremarkable.

Sword is power axe stats dealing d3 mortal wounds to psykers on a 6 to wound.

Could see using him along my Aggressors against the Thousand Sons player in my club, we'll see.

 

If this is true I'm gonna be salty. His special sword is damage 1 like a power axe? Not even D3? And definitely not the dream of Damage 2? SODIUM CHLORIDE!

 

From reddit :

 

 

Lazarus can exchange his sword for the powerfist option it isn't special just an option.

His boltgun is a bolt carbine and has special issue ammunition like deathwatch do as well as being master crafted. But is otherwise unremarkable.

Sword is power axe stats dealing d3 mortal wounds to psykers on a 6 to wound.

Could see using him along my Aggressors against the Thousand Sons player in my club, we'll see.

 

If this is true I'm gonna be salty. His special sword is damage 1 like a power axe? Not even D3? And definitely not the dream of Damage 2? SODIUM CHLORIDE!

 

 

Not bad as I face thousand sons, grey knights and genestealer cults regularly :)

 

The option to take a power fist is a nice tough though! 

Looks like you can magnet the sword power fist pretty easily, the power fist will be in demand anyways for other primaris Sgt models

 

On another note why give him a special sword with 1 damage and S5 you'd have thought at least D2 like the special boltguns HQ's are equipped with?

 

Maybe he has re-roll wounds against Psyker units that would help trigger the sword more often and negate the 1 damage. It's got to have more of a trick you would have thought.

 

Waiting always waiting

Yeah if GK article posts with the Tau short story, then that would probably confirm that TS on Tues and DA on Wed like the web guy said so it's soon guys. Good luck

Edited by Archaeinox

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