Marshal Loss Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Previewed at GAMA: the next Adeptus Titanicus book is "The Defence of Ryza". Also shown were some lovely Ceratus Knight armours. Edited March 10, 2020 by Brother Tyler Added image Dosjetka, Interrogator Stobz, bluntblade and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
The boater Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Not only that, but the front cover of the book had a knight Magera On it. Maybe a new knight banner? Captain Semper 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488556 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Not only that, but the front cover of the book had a knight Magera On it. Maybe a new knight banner? There's also a Styrix in the background (you can tell from the different shaped claw), and they've never had images of models in the Titanicus books that weren't later released as AT-scale minis, so yeah I'd be willing to bet we'll have a Mechanicum knight banner at some point this year. Given that the Questoris frame is large enough to build 3 knights (and I don't really see why the Megaera/ Styrix would need extra space), I'm curious to see if we'll see them in a 3-knight set and which one gets doubled up ,or whether they can squeeze in enough room to give us the choice. Very excited to have some new build-a-Legio rules in the new Book, hopefully these'll be better balanced than the White Dwarf incarnation & will make folks' custom Legios tournament-legal. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488585 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Great to see the new Cerastus options, and surely new questoris too. You don’t put them on the cover if not doing rules for them. Ryza is a forgeworld. We’ve been expecting corrupted knight rules but maybe this isn’t when they’ll come. Wonder if we’ll instead get more techy stuff, like he more admech-y knights. Could be similar stuff for titans I guess. Could be corrupted stuff too - though you’d think they would mention that. Interrogator Stobz 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488586 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Interrogator Stobz Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I asked on Fb if the new Cerastus would be upgrade sprues or whole kits, so far no answer..... Hoping for upgrades obviously. Captain Semper 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488622 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beren Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Crucius is the Ryzan Legio on the front right? WHich has already been covered in Titandeath? I wonder how that'll be handled. Also, those Knights seem to have a distinctive colour scheme, so I wonder if their house will be in the book. We also cauhgt a glimpse of a halved bright red and white scheme from the video. Edited March 10, 2020 by Beren Captain Semper 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burni Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Very happy we’re getting both types. I wonder if it’s going one box and it builds one of each, or if you can do two Castigators etc? I assume two as that’s what the Lancers are. Very exciting to see AdMech Knights on the cover! Maybe the first Knights FW resin upgrades? (Would rather plastic but I’ll take it) Edited March 10, 2020 by Burni Captain Semper 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poliorketes Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Not the first time a legion takes part in different campaigns, e.g. Mortis. I expect Ignatus and Metallica to be included (there are transfers), anything else is speculative. Xestobiax maybe. Cyrox and Captain Semper 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kenzaburo Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Wow, this made me so happy. I finished my first Crucius titan yesterday and was hoping that GW would bring out a transfer sheet for the Legio. Seems like I might get what I wished for. This is fantastic news - also more info on Crucius in general would be great. So far, we know that Ryza is big in the creation of plasma weaponry and tech - might see quite a bit more in that regard maybe? RedFurioso and Dosjetka 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbienw Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Hooray for the cerastus! They have the correct carapace top shoulder armour for each type, they haven’t just reused the Lancer armour, that is great. I suspect it’ll be a kit that can make one of each Castigator and Acheron. Captain Semper 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mandragola Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) The article says there'll be rules to create your own Legio. That's interesting, because those rules already exist. I wonder if this means they'll reprint the WD rules, or come up with better ones. Yay for speculation! Looking at the Cerastus knights, their legs are not configured like my two Lancers. They look like kind of a reflection of them. To me, that suggests that this is a new kit rather than an upgrade sprue. If it was an upgrade sprue then the legs would be the same. I don't know the kit all that well though, so maybe it can be built with the legs the other way. I don't think that 's the case. Edit: also the carapace and shoulder pads have to be new bits, I think. That might be the point at which they decided to just make a new kit, perhaps just reflecting some existing components in CAD for variety, rather than do a sprue. That's my hunch of what they did, though I could be wrong. The design of the original kit, with all three head varieties, sort of implied it was designed to work with a conversion kit. Edited March 10, 2020 by Mandragola Captain Semper, 1ncarnadine and Fajita Fan 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laughingman Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Megaera/ Styrix upgrades sprue would be cool Captain Semper 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I'm really hoping we see rules for Metalica, Iganutum and maybe even Destructor as the loyalists? Looking forward to this book and the new knights! RedFurioso, Fajita Fan and Captain Semper 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488712 Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedFurioso Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I wonder when the book will be released... Shadow and Iron was mentioned at WarCom on 30 January and open for pre-order on February 8. One or two weeks more, I guess? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burni Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Further out than that I think. There used to be a 'rule' of what we see at reveals will be out within 3 months (I think it was 3 months). My guess is early May. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488745 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Baby Knights doo doo, doo doo doo dooBaby Knights doo doo, doo doo doo dooBaby Knights doo doo, doo doo doo dooBaby Knights Man i can't wait to get them... 4 of each please oh and another 8 for my Traitor House :) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488780 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I’m glad to see the models but those guns aren’t any better than a lancer’s shield save. I like the legs though, those would be nice to mix and match with lancers. I guess GW got tired of 3D printing their own. Way more excited to see the Mechanicum knights like the Magera and hopefully Atropos. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 There is only one Legio I am hoping for: Magna, the all-caps aficionado's Legio of choice! I wonder when the book will be released... Shadow and Iron was mentioned at WarCom on 30 January and open for pre-order on February 8. One or two weeks more, I guess? It mentions more news in upcoming engine kill articles, which is the last Tuesday (?) of each month, so at bare minimum we've got a few weeks. Probably more likely to be 2-3 months as Burni says RedFurioso, Captain Semper, 1ncarnadine and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Hands Fanatic Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Very happy we’re getting both types. I wonder if it’s going one box and it builds one of each, or if you can do two Castigators etc? I assume two as that’s what the Lancers are. Very exciting to see AdMech Knights on the cover! Maybe the first Knights FW resin upgrades? (Would rather plastic but I’ll take it) Given how packed the lancer sprue is, I suspect it'll build one Castigator & one Acheron - while neither has the bulky ion gauntlet shield, they both do have external ammo containers on their backs that the Lancer lacks, and I can't really see how they'd fit all that onto one frame with additional weapons too. I've been thinking about the Megaera & Styrix in AT for a while now, and I think plastic makes the most sense - to be true to the 28mm kit, a resin pack would need: 2x shin plates, groin plate, gun arm, claw arm, head, torso gun, gun cable, and carapace - at which point the only bits from the base plastic kit you're using are the skeleton, thigh plates & chest plate. Brother-Captain Gilead and 1ncarnadine 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488961 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dulahan Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I'm looking forward to the rules for the custom Legios, and hoping they're expanded on from the White Dwarf Article. Hopefully balanced too. But I'd like to see some other options as well. 1ncarnadine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5488995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Semper Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Crucius is the Ryzan Legio on the front right? WHich has already been covered in Titandeath? I wonder how that'll be handled. Also, those Knights seem to have a distinctive colour scheme, so I wonder if their house will be in the book. We also cauhgt a glimpse of a halved bright red and white scheme from the video. Ryza means Crucius and since the rules are already out, I think it's safe to assume transfers... Well, maybe not "safe" but one can always hope! Not the first time a legion takes part in different campaigns, e.g. Mortis. I expect Ignatus and Metallica to be included (there are transfers), anything else is speculative. Xestobiax maybe. Both very high on my list - I was thinking of doing a Metallica Maniple supported by a couple of Ignatus Titans... Fire Wasps rule! I wonder when the book will be released... Shadow and Iron was mentioned at WarCom on 30 January and open for pre-order on February 8. One or two weeks more, I guess? Well, if I recall correctly, Titandeath was released in February and the Molech was in... June? So maybe we'll see the same thing this time around with Shadow and Iron in Feb and the Defence of Ryza coming in June. I think it was June for Molech, but someone may remember better... The question is, how long until we go full Epic? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5489112 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Oh, wonderful. This looks very Mechanicum focused, and is probably the supplement containing Ignatum and Metalica rules. Maybe Legio Crucius gets a unique maniple for the trouble of having their Forge World invaded or something, if they're lucky. Their chances of getting transfers just spiked, too. If they ever do a Battle of Kado supplement, they'll appear yet again (and lose another Imperator to House Devine).There are definitely at least two more Mechanicum Knight houses involved too, between the red/white Acastus color plate and what seem to be Ryza-oathed Knights on the cover. I'm going to guess both are Loyalist, so we may see two Dark Mechanicum House-holds appear, too. They could re-use the Atrax and Hermetika color plates from Book 4, or maybe we'll just see a bunch of new things?Can we also take a step back and take a moment to reflect on how unlucky this particular Forge World is? It gets hit in the Heresy, eats two Ork Waaaaghs, finally beats the second one, and then the great rift opens and it gets covered in Daemons. Ouch. Marshal Loss, Rune Priest Ridcully and RedFurioso 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5489113 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Loss Posted March 10, 2020 Author Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) Well, if I recall correctly, Titandeath was released in February and the Molech was in... June? So maybe we'll see the same thing this time around with Shadow and Iron in Feb and the Defence of Ryza coming in June. I think it was June for Molech, but someone may remember better... Titandeath was up for preorder on January 19; Doom of Molech was up for preorder on April 20. Pretty much 3 months exactly between them. I hope Ryza is out ASAP because I am a greedy child, but May/June seems most likely to me Edited March 10, 2020 by Marshal Loss 1ncarnadine, RedFurioso, Captain Semper and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5489116 Share on other sites More sharing options...
1ncarnadine Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Oh hey, as this is a Forge World this would also be a good opportunity to release a Sector Mechanicus terrain set in this scale (separate from the Industrial Sector's mix of scatter/basing material) Captain Semper 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5489123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fajita Fan Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Oh, wonderful. This looks very Mechanicum focused, and is probably the supplement containing Ignatum and Metalica rules. Maybe Legio Crucius gets a unique maniple for the trouble of having their Forge World invaded or something, if they're lucky. Their chances of getting transfers just spiked, too. If they ever do a Battle of Kado supplement, they'll appear yet again (and lose another Imperator to House Devine). There are definitely at least two more Mechanicum Knight houses involved too, between the red/white Acastus color plate and what seem to be Ryza-oathed Knights on the cover. I'm going to guess both are Loyalist, so we may see two Dark Mechanicum House-holds appear, too. They could re-use the Atrax and Hermetika color plates from Book 4, or maybe we'll just see a bunch of new things? Can we also take a step back and take a moment to reflect on how unlucky this particular Forge World is? It gets hit in the Heresy, eats two Ork Waaaaghs, finally beats the second one, and then the great rift opens and it gets covered in Daemons. Ouch. And the paint named after them is “rust.” 1ncarnadine 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/362467-the-defence-of-ryza/#findComment-5489139 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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