BIG Preview Speculation

[Chapter Master Valrak]

 

Whatever is coming GW seem to think it will be big, I know they've contacted a few people asking them to record their reactions. 

that include you??

 

 

Nope, I think its channels they have links with, so people who receive like early codex stuff for reviews etc. 

[AenarIT]

"In the darkness between the stars, the weak and the faithless find no deliverance."
"We are raised to believe that the God-Emperor watches over us all, and so we are charged to cleanse the mutant, the heretic, the alien."
"We must not falter. We are His sword. We are His wrath!"
"Even in the face of death, we shall not submit. Suffering is out prayer. Faith is our armour."


I'm more and more convinced that it is a single quote/chant/prayer split into parts. 
It sounds something like the Black Templars or the Sisters would say, those who believe in the God-Emperor as a divinity.

[NTaW]

New pic for today (as posted in text above):

 

[Sete]

I'm still convinced each text represents a "faction" of the Imperium, obviously all with ties to the faith of the God Emperor.

Last one does not sound like a Space Marine to me. War is the Space Marine prayer (in the BT case) not suffering.

[Marshal Reinhard]

I'll go out and say this is all sisters.

 

EDIT: I see no reason to sepperate them. They all seem to be one continious chant, and taken as a whole, it screams sisters.

Edited May 21, 2020 by Reinhard

[Sete]

First Inquisition.

Second Sisters

Third Space Marines

Fourth Ministorium, or some sort of flagellants with "suffering is our prayer", it does not sound militaristic.

Edited May 21, 2020 by Sete

[Gongsun Zan]

"Trust in your hatred for the mutant and the heretic, brothers. Embrace the vengeful wrath you feel within your hearts. In the fires of war we shall serve our divine Emperor, praise be his name." - Grimaldus, the very first quote in the Black Templar section in Faith and Fury. 

 

There's also plenty of examples in there of how faith in the Emperor is their shield, and "darkness between the stars" could arguably point towards a crusading fleet. 

 

Everything save for "suffering" seems consistent with how they usually describe Black Templars to me, and on a meta level I don't think revealing Primaris bikes would warrant reaction videos when it was leaked months ago. 

 

I want to believe... 

Edited May 21, 2020 by Gongsun Zan

[Guest Triszin]

I don't think it relates to anything besides imperium.

 

It'll end with the new subtitles for 9th.

 

It's the little lore things at the start of major editions.

 

 

" In this..... Dark imperium... "

[Sete]

Don't do that, don't give me hope.

[Sarges]

Tinfoil theories time:
It will be Inquisition with both sisters and BT in starter, just like in Pariah trailer.
With the rework of detachments in 9th rulebook.
Considering how much GW experiments with formats it's not that unrealistic.

[Marshal Reinhard]

The suffering part completely kills any chance of it being astartes related, unless it really is a multitude of factions. I've yet to see why this is such a popular theory though...?

 

EDIT: stupid phone correct

Edited May 21, 2020 by Reinhard

[.Torch.]

Maybe they'll announce releasing Engine War, War of the Spider and Pariah all in one weekend to catch up with their release schedule. Although it's unlikely, I think that would be cool, and it with fit the 'Big' moniker allowing them to move forward quicker with a potential 8.5/9 release. All speculation though, I'm not a CEO or a business type, but I think an accurate statement would be that this announcement will probably end up making them back some of the money they lost in lockdown.

[TootiusNootius]

Sisters vs 'Crons would be a great starter kit, I'd take a no Marines box anytime. Not sure it's going to be so however.

 

I forgot about the fact that I'd like to see an expanded Sisters of Silence range.

 

 

Maybe they'll announce releasing Engine War, War of the Spider and Pariah all in one weekend to catch up with their release schedule. Although it's unlikely, I think that would be cool, and it with fit the 'Big' moniker allowing them to move forward quicker with a potential 8.5/9 release. All speculation though, I'm not a CEO or a business type, but I think an accurate statement would be that this announcement will probably end up making them back some of the money they lost in lockdown.

 

I think it is quite likely, not everyone would buy everything anyway and it would put them back on track much quicker for what is looking to be a far bigger release very soon, a good way to get the ball rolling right out of the gates of lockdown.

Edited May 21, 2020 by TootiusNootius

[Knight Artorias]

Astartes obviously go through immense suffering, it's just talking about it that I haven't come across much before. 

 

 

Based purely on the text, I'd say it's a new Ministorum line. That seems very unlikely though. 

[Lord Marshal]

I don't seriously believe GW would ever make a starter set that wasn't Space Marines versus X. 

 

Black Templars vs Necrons however isn't an especially iconic matchup, although it's possible GW don't really mind that (Dark Angels vs Crimson Slaughter, Black Templars vs Dark Eldar in 3rd, etc). It might also explain why GW held back on a Black Templar supplement since a whole new edition with which to market it would likely slip a few more quid in their pocket than at another time.

Edited May 21, 2020 by Lord Marshal

[Marshal Reinhard]

Exactly, astartes, don't talk about suffering, they just don't

Ergo the line is being said by someone else...

[TheMawr]

if thats the case (just the announcement of release dates of 3 things we already know) all the recorded faces will look dissapointed ... not the best marketing video

edit; was responding to torch, and while typing the short sentense there were 3 responses inbetween.
Im btw also expecting the remaining PA to be released all at once or short succesion.. I highly doubt that will be the big news though...

Edited May 21, 2020 by TheMawr

[Lord Marshal]

I wouldn't read too much into the specific wording of the quotes. They probably just told them to write something that sounded 'faithful and cool and metal'.

 

if thats the case (just the announcement of release dates of 3 things we already know) all the recorded faces will look dissapointed ... not the best marketing video 

 

I see you saw the leaked announcement for it being a Fortnite crossover with Guilliman flossing too.

Edited May 21, 2020 by Lord Marshal

[Marshal Reinhard]

I wouldn't read too much into the specific wording of the quotes. They probably just told them to write something that sounded 'faithful and cool and metal'.

 

I'm gonna say the opposite. Do read into the wording, it's clearly obviously meant as a clue, and thinking the marketing doesn't know exactly what they're doing is as usual giving them too little credit.

[Dark Shepherd]

I dont think theyd do BT v Necrons for the starter box as theres not enough of a difference in the colourschemes.

 

BT codex as a new codex cant be discounted though if all existing ones are staying current

 

All 3 P.A books and models in one weekend makes sense but really feels like theyre announcing more than that given the extra level of hype and a lot of that stuff having been revealed already

[NTaW]

Just to point out, Helbrecht has a standing feud with Imotekh since he beat the Stormlord and flew his flagship into a star (Necron Codex, pg.31 Conquerer's Fall).

Edited May 21, 2020 by NTaW

[Lord Marshal]

I dont think theyd do BT v Necrons for the starter box as theres not enough of a difference in the colourschemes.

 

My guess is that going forward the Necrons will have a brass/gold scheme like Szeras, which would serve to make them pop out a lot more next to the black/white Templars.

 

Both schemes are also easy to... ugh, reach a 'Battle Ready' standard, which seems to be GW's favoured form of tutorial these days.

Edited May 21, 2020 by Lord Marshal

[Blindhamster]

Just to point out, Helbrecht has a standing feud with Imotekh since he beat the Stormlord and flew his flagship into a star (Necron Codex, pg.31 Conquerer's Fall).

and if the Silent King is coming back, Dante has met him already, so there would be as logical a tie there.

 

I doubt we'll see either, certainly not in the starter set, probably not immediately after either.

 

they seem keen to try and keep things fairly generic for these big releases to appeal to as many as possible.

 

It'll probably remain ultramarines IMO.

[sarabando]

i doubt they would move away from smurfs for any starter kit tbh

[Bulwyf]

GW asking trusted partners to do reaction videos means to me it is either 9th edition or a Primarch returning. Maybe both. The lines about darkness between stars and Deliverance scream Corax to me.