Urkh Posted July 9, 2020 Share Posted July 9, 2020 I feel like the reason his relic shield is different in that way is BECAUSE of his iron halo save. GWS might have actually taken something like that into consideration for once! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5558184 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mmmmm Napalm Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) I'm anxious to see if we get a legitimate supplement a la the first founding chapters. We have just as much fluff as some of them and got rolled into faith and fury for whatever reason. I hope the templars get retconned to their old fluff, not the emperor worshiping wackos we are now. That never really sat too well with me. reminder that the only piece of BT-related media that said Templars didn't worship the Emperor was the Blood and Fire short story. The 4e codex didn't say they worshipped the Emperor, but it didn't say the opposite either. This retcon has never bothered me for this reason, plus the BT's whole vibe goes along with it anyway. We have Champions that receive visions from the emperor and proceed to run around in "the Armor of Faith". I don't think that BT explicitly worshipping the Emperor is really a departure from their original image. Edited July 11, 2020 by Mmmmm Napalm BitsHammer, Marshal Reinhard and Champion Rawne 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5559625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 The 4th ed Codex was basically implicitly saying we worship the emperor. Templars are knights of the 'Temple' after all... BitsHammer and Mmmmm Napalm 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5559736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I'd say the codex was abound with allusions to faith. Permeated with it even, though it never stated it explicitly. Sword Brother Adelard, BitsHammer and Mmmmm Napalm 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5559776 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I think it even stated that Sigismund was chosen to lead the chapter BECAUSE of his "faith". Which begs the question, what did people think they were referring to? Mmmmm Napalm 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5559781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 I feel like the reason his relic shield is different in that way is BECAUSE of his iron halo save. GWS might have actually taken something like that into consideration for once! Like Cataphractii Captain having a 3++. Maybe! And then the sacred bones contribute the mortal wound deflector. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5559793 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 (edited) so. had my secound real game with Ultramarines against Custodes in this edition. I missed devot push and the strong fast Elements which Templars have in this Edition although my Ultramarines had much more Punch ( and so much more CP) Edited July 11, 2020 by Medjugorje Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5560033 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gendo Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 so. had my secound real game with Ultramarines against Custodes in this edition. I missed devot push and the strong fast Elements which Templars have in this Edition although my Ultramarines had much more Punch ( and so much more CP) Ultramarines...I'll burn some oils and pray for you brother. Sete and Brother Kraskor 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5560313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 I am a Necron, Eldar, Dark Eldar, Imperial Guard Player, Blood Angel Player too.^^ b2t - do you have your boxsets? I already bought them. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5560324 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Valkenhayn Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 so. had my secound real game with Ultramarines against Custodes in this edition. I missed devot push and the strong fast Elements which Templars have in this Edition although my Ultramarines had much more Punch ( and so much more CP) Wrong thread. UM have their own discussion. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5560352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 11, 2020 Author Share Posted July 11, 2020 It was just because I thought Ultramarines would be the best faction in this Edition but I realized that my Templars are better. Maybe ist because of my Gameplay but I think we are on a good spot. Othniel's Blade 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5560394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punchomatic Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 This thread is taking an unexpectedly heretical turn. I see almost no difference between Ultramarines and, say, Black Legion. I miss the days when we had Favored Enemy: EVERYONE Lord Blacksteel, Gendo and Medjugorje 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5560474 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted July 11, 2020 Share Posted July 11, 2020 This thread is taking an unexpectedly heretical turn. I see almost no difference between Ultramarines and, say, Black Legion. I miss the days when we had Favored Enemy: EVERYONE Only one who basically gets that are Necron Destoyer Cult models. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5560518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 12, 2020 Author Share Posted July 12, 2020 i hope we will get this in the future. Maybe if we get vows - its like our super doctrine is just a chapter tactic from the main space marine book. There is a chapter tactic with our old ability and I think its called prefered enemy too. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5561039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Ishagu did us a solid and shared the BT points: EC: 80 Helbrecth:155 Grim:95 Servs:6 (cant quote, at work) Edited July 13, 2020 by Sete Marshal Reinhard, Gendo and Othniel's Blade 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5561447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Not bad at all! Medjugorje 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5561459 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Anyone know Land Raiders? Are they as originally leaked? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5561487 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishagu Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Anyone know Land Raiders? Are they as originally leaked? Yeah their point costs have been around for a few days Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5561489 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Are they usable? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5561493 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) Ishagu did us a solid and shared the BT points: EC: 80 Helbrecth:155 Grim:95 Servs:6 (cant quote, at work) thats better then expected. What about crusader squad? 215 for a LRC + 40 + ( i think 20x2 for hurricane bolter) + mm?.. EDIT: 15/14 Initiates / Neophytes. at least not more expensive then tacticals and scouts. Edited July 13, 2020 by Medjugorje Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5561495 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Not too bad considering they also get -1AP now on chainswords. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5561532 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 13, 2020 Author Share Posted July 13, 2020 Not too bad considering they also get -1AP now on chainswords. not yet. GW confirmed in a facebook post that everything stays the same unitl a FAQ/Errata or a new codex will be released so far. Same thing for storm shields. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5561540 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Kraskor Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Not too bad considering they also get -1AP now on chainswords. Have they said this somewhere? I was under the impression that unless the datasheet gets updated things stay as they are: they said as much about storm shields for terminators. 14pts for Neos, I'm sorry for the heresy brothers but for a mere 6pts and my soul to primaris, I can give it 2W, 2A, a 3+ save, and a badass boltgun! No-brainer. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5561546 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 I'm pretty sure they said it would be happening for all Astartes. I wouldn't be surprised if it goes into one of the appendices. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5561600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gendo Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 Ishagu did us a solid and shared the BT points: EC: 80 Helbrecth:155 Grim:95 Servs:6 (cant quote, at work) thats better then expected. What about crusader squad? 215 for a LRC + 40 + ( i think 20x2 for hurricane bolter) + mm?.. EDIT: 15/14 Initiates / Neophytes. at least not more expensive then tacticals and scouts. LRC 215 Hurricane Bolter 15 each T.Assault Cannon 40 Total of 285, before was 264 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/25/#findComment-5561728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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