Chapter Master Valrak Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 I wonder if BT will get either Grimaldus or Helbretch on a Saint Catherine Style base? Helbrecht has the fancy base, it's not big its basically this artwork into a model :) The Spanish Inquisitor, Trignama and Sete 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 So not Primaris and what about his bionic hand? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716683 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 5, 2021 Author Share Posted July 5, 2021 The old Mephiston artwork wasnt either a Primaris. I never said anything against you but if you want to talk against Valrak, it would be nice to have solid arguments. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716688 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) I asked two legit questions. There are some big differences in the two versions of Mephiston as well. I check around for rumors - sources such as Fahrenheit and others provide a lot more details in general. And I think we should be able to freely ask questions, don’t you? I’m still waiting for my Angron and World Eaters over here Med. Edited July 5, 2021 by Black Blow Fly Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716689 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) So not Primaris and what about his bionic hand? Still Primaris and still has his Bio arm, as I stated they just used this art piece as the pose Edited July 5, 2021 by Chapter Master Valrak Trignama, BLACK BLΠFLY, Sarvis and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Can’t wait to see it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716705 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayOkuz Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) Even if the BT thing never comes, it will not be Valrak's fault, nor it won't make him a liar. He is simply a dedicated person who shares his every bit of info with the people who thinks on the same level of enthusiasm as him. I humbly thanks Sete and Valrak for, after all these years at least I can feel the vibe in my stomach. Oh btw, the way GW and lore goes, you can see the hints that Black Templars will really come in some way. Whether it will be a a good BT book or a Primaris character reveal or another way that we cannot foresee but Black Templars are coming either way. Edited July 5, 2021 by Marshal Mattias Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
excelite Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Tbh the only thing that will say primaris is the lore.. those models will surely come with non standard armor like the old models already did… What most players call primaris, is simply a better scaled, more detailed model. Which it seems to be… It would have made a difference if they would have kept the firstborn to 1 wound, but they didn’t despite the lore stating primaris are more robust and able to take a harder beating … So what exactly does it need for you to accept the model as „primaris“? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 So what exactly does it need for you to accept the model as „primaris“? Keyword: Primaris maybe? Sword Brother Adelard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
excelite Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 So what exactly does it need for you to accept the model as „primaris“? Keyword: Primaris maybe? Who knows, might have been before you stated it ;-) Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I wonder if BT will get either Grimaldus or Helbretch on a Saint Catherine Style base? Helbrecht has the fancy base, it's not big its basically this artwork into a model I have this poster (and a Grimaldus one) hanging on my wall framing my display cases for my models. Thanks again Valrak! Can't wait to see it! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716813 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I want to see the alternative helmet. Heck I just want to see something already Trignama and Crimson cowboy 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716817 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Mattias Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Once more for those that may have missed it: You do not have to believe rumours. You can state your scepticism. You cannot spam the thread restating this position repeatedly. You should be respectful to others, regardless of whether you share their opinion. This goes both ways. Please re-read the forum rules if you need reminding. If you think a post is breaking the rules, you may use the 'report' function to inform a moderator. There will not be another friendly warning. I would rather not have to lock this discussion, but I don't want to have to come in here and clean up any more personal attacks/arguments. We're all here for the same reason, so let's remember that when we post. Chapter Master Valrak, Sword Brother Adelard, Charlo and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716837 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I want to see the alternative helmet. Heck I just want to see something already Theres a helmet option for Helbrecth. Sword Brother Adelard and Mmmmm Napalm 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716886 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLΠFLY Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Do you know if he will be Primaris like Crowe will supposedly be ? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Of course he will be Primaris, Because once everyone is Primaris, noone will be. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716924 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chapter Master Valrak Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 I want to see the alternative helmet. Heck I just want to see something already Theres a helmet option for Helbrecth. Bucket Head Helbrect is my favourite Helbrect ;) Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716934 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Like Valrak said Helbrecth is Primaris. In fact the release is a Primaris release. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716935 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 Dark Angels didn’t get a Primaris version of Azreal or Ezzikiel so I was just wondering. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 But Blood Angels got Mephiston and SW Ragnar. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716941 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 And all of the other new named characters are Primaris. Sete 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716948 Share on other sites More sharing options...
redmapa Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) I hope they keep his armor as a mish mash of armor marks, the fact that its one of the few mostly Mark 2 armor was always a cool detail for Helbrecht. Edited July 6, 2021 by redmapa Mmmmm Napalm and BLACK BLΠFLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5716975 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Heck I hope primaris crusader squads are a mix of primaris-ized armor marks, would be the most unique primaris unit, as of the release. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5717060 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Christopher Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Heck I hope primaris crusader squads are a mix of primaris-ized armor marks, would be the most unique primaris unit, as of the release. This sounds thematically cool (I remember a line from the old Codex: BT about the ad-hoc nature of Crusades, so I'd like to see units fighting as in the artwork for 40k - terminators, crusaders and neophytes, shoulder to shoulder, against the enemy), but I were wondering how it could be implemented rule-wise. I mean, I don't see much purpose in it - the classic Crusader Squad with a mix of Initiates and Neophytes at least had a clear-cut distinction in the form of different armour saves (not that it made much sense for a long time to mix them in the first place). With a Primaris Crusaer Squad, would they mix T4 armour marks (Phobos and the regular one)? If so, there doesn't appear to be much sense in it, apart from adding complexity coming from the mix of relatively similar weapons since there isn't much variety when it comes to special weapons in the available Primaris arsenal (some melee weapons for sergeants and hellblasters' plasma variants). Or would GW mix T4 and T5 armour, adding the option to field a mix of Gravis- and non-Gravis troops with maybe a hidden metla? Having said that, however, these mixes of Primaris units isn't in line with the spirit of Crusader Squads - them being a form of master-apprentice training. I'm not at all into Primaris lore, so maybe Phobos troops are 'newbs' while Intercessors are the more experienced brothers, but it doesn't appear to be the case, does it? The best we could hope for is for GW to do new Neophyte models to fight alongside Primaris dudes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5717067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share Posted July 6, 2021 Heck I hope primaris crusader squads are a mix of primaris-ized armor marks, would be the most unique primaris unit, as of the release. Having said that, however, these mixes of Primaris units isn't in line with the spirit of Crusader Squads - them being a form of master-apprentice training. I'm not at all into Primaris lore, so maybe Phobos troops are 'newbs' while Intercessors are the more experienced brothers, but it doesn't appear to be the case, does it? The best we could hope for is for GW to do new Neophyte models to fight alongside Primaris dudes. In fact Intercessors are full battle brothers and Phobos troops are newbies. Not neophytes but not that experienced. Rumors said there are new Neophytes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/364086-the-big-9th-edition-room/page/75/#findComment-5717091 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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