BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted September 25, 2021 Share Posted September 25, 2021 Learning curve -> different strokes for different folks… Medjugorje 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokugawa Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 A BT player got 4th(5w-1l) in BFS, a 80 men major. A good curtain call for old templar rules. Warhammer 40,000 9th Edition) [108 PL, 9CP, 1,999pts] Battalion Detachment 0CP (Imperium - Adeptus Astartes - Black Templars) Configuration Battle Size Selections: 3. Strike Force (101-200 Total PL / 1001-2000 Points) Chapter Selection: Black Templars Detachment Command Cost Gametype Selections: Matched Stratagems Relics of the Chapter Selections: 2x Number of Extra Relics No Force Org Slot Cenobyte Servitors 3x Cenobyte Servitor Selections: 3x Close Combat Weapon HQ Captain on Bike Selections: Astartes Chainsword, Chapter Command: Chapter Master, Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw, Master of the Codex, The Aurillian Shroud, Twin boltgun, Warlord Chaplain Grimaldus Selections: 1. Litany of Divine Protection, 5. Fervent Acclamation, Artificer Crozius, Frag & Krak grenades, Litany of Hate, Plasma pistol Primaris Chaplain on Bike Selections: 5. Recitation of Focus, 6. Canticle of Hate (Aura), Absolver Bolt pistol, Ancient Breviary, Chapter Command: Master of Sanctity, Crozius arcanum, Frag & Krak grenades, Litany of Hate, Rites of War, Stratagem: Hero of the Chapter, Twin Bolt rifle Troops Crusader Squad 4x Initiate w/ Chainsword Selections: 4x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades Sword Brother Selections: 2x Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades Crusader Squad 4x Initiate Selections: 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Boltgun, 4x Frag & Krak grenades Sword Brother Selections: Astartes Chainsword, Boltgun, Frag & Krak grenades Crusader Squad 4x Initiate w/ Chainsword Selections: 4x Astartes Chainsword, 4x Bolt pistol, 4x Frag & Krak grenades Sword Brother Selections: 2x Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades Elites Apothecary Selections: Astartes Chainsword, Bolt pistol, Frag & Krak grenades, The Crusader's Helm Bladeguard Veteran Squad 4x Bladeguard Veteran Selections: 4x Frag & Krak grenades, 4x Heavy Bolt Pistol, 4x Master-crafted power sword, 4x Storm Shield Bladeguard Veteran Sergeant Selections: Frag & Krak grenades, Heavy Bolt Pistol, Master-crafted power sword, Storm Shield Redemptor Dreadnought Selections: 2x Storm Bolters, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Redemptor Fist Redemptor Dreadnought Selections: 2x Storm Bolters, Icarus Rocket Pod, Macro Plasma Incinerator, Onslaught Gatling Cannon, Redemptor Fist Terminator Assault Squad Assault Terminator Sergeant Thunder Hammer & Storm Shield Selections: Storm shield, Thunder hammer Assault Terminator w/THSS Selections: Storm shield, Thunder hammer 3x Assault Terminator w/x2LC Selections: 3x Lightning Claw (Pair) Vanguard Veteran Squad Selections: Jump Pack Vanguard Veteran Selections: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw, Storm shield Vanguard Veteran Selections: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw, Storm shield Vanguard Veteran Selections: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw, Storm shield Vanguard Veteran Selections: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw, Storm shield Vanguard Veteran Selections: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw, Storm shield Vanguard Veteran Selections: Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw, Storm shield Vanguard Veteran Selections: Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Storm shield Vanguard Veteran Selections: Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw Vanguard Veteran Selections: Astartes Chainsword, Frag & Krak grenades, Lightning Claw Vanguard Veteran Sergeant Selections: Frag & Krak grenades, Storm shield, Thunder hammer Heavy Support Eliminator Squad Selections: Bolt sniper rifle Eliminator Sergeant Selections: Bolt pistol, Camo cloak, Frag & Krak grenades, Instigator Bolt Carbine 2x Eliminators Selections: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenades Eliminator Squad Selections: Bolt sniper rifle Eliminator Sergeant Selections: Bolt pistol, Camo cloak, Frag & Krak grenades, Instigator Bolt Carbine 2x Eliminators Selections: 2x Bolt pistol, 2x Camo cloak, 2x Frag & Krak grenades Whirlwind Selections: Whirlwind castellan launcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) its so crazy how the tournament scene struggles with the new supplemen but the rest is that hyped. Btw... the new lore of the BT is great. Edited October 14, 2021 by Medjugorje BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Palmu Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Wait, you can have Grimmy and a MoS in the same list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 (edited) Wait, you can have Grimmy and a MoS in the same list? No. Ol' Grim has the MoS keyword. EDIT: Since the Cenobyte servitors are in a seperate FOC slot and not with Grim that's the old list where Grim wasn't a MoS. Edited October 14, 2021 by Fulkes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordValandil Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Wait, you can have Grimmy and a MoS in the same list? Old rules. He said it was the curtain call to the old rules, so the tournament didn’t update yet. Hence 5 man crusader squads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Wait, you can have Grimmy and a MoS in the same list? Old rules. He said it was the curtain call to the old rules, so the tournament didn’t update yet. Hence 5 man crusader squads. You can still take 5 man Firstborn Crusader squads in the new book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 Wait, you can have Grimmy and a MoS in the same list? Old rules. He said it was the curtain call to the old rules, so the tournament didn’t update yet. Hence 5 man crusader squads. You can still take 5 man Firstborn Crusader squads in the new book. but it was just taken because they used to be cheap. I dont know if i prefer cruaser squads over Assault Intercessors by 5 points difference but one attack each model. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 14, 2021 Share Posted October 14, 2021 Wait, you can have Grimmy and a MoS in the same list? Old rules. He said it was the curtain call to the old rules, so the tournament didn’t update yet. Hence 5 man crusader squads. You can still take 5 man Firstborn Crusader squads in the new book. but it was just taken because they used to be cheap. I dont know if i prefer cruaser squads over Assault Intercessors by 5 points difference but one attack each model. Fair point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 14, 2021 Author Share Posted October 14, 2021 Assault Intercessors have a great stratagem and still access to real Transhuman. Crusadersqud for 100 points ave access to sword brother with lightning claws ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Am I resurrecting a dead thread? Just curious if anyone has info on the planned release schedule for november. We have potentially 6 boxes coming out. Crusaders, sword brethren, grim, EC, Helbrecht, upgrade sprue. It's alot for one month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 Given GW's penchant to do pun-related timings on releases (like Orktober), I heard the worrying speculation they could be aiming for Black friday with us. But no, I got no info. SirJyo, BitsHammer and Brother Carpenter 3 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medjugorje Posted October 21, 2021 Author Share Posted October 21, 2021 as long as the book is new we need several threads until we have found our lists and stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 New article says soon™. Interesting to see the design philosophy of change nothing. Works for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9x19 Parabellum Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 That's fine I need a couple weeks to paint up my 13 new Crusaders. BLACK BLΠFLY 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChargingSoll Posted October 21, 2021 Share Posted October 21, 2021 (edited) Had a fun and small 25PL Crusade game at my local GW today, my templars faced an orc stormboys army. My army being a crusader squad, Emperor's Champion and two 5 man intercessor squads. Had the master at arms Warlord Trait which does wonders as an heroic intervention monsters. Opponent got first turn and went forward and charged my crusader squad with my Champion by their side. He intervened and got charged with during the game, not only surviving but destroyed the enemy in holy close combat and blunting a squad of 10 storm boys to one with 4 remaining and killing the enemy Warlord the next turn. Used Suffer Not the Unclean to Live vow to help with the 5 Toughness of the orks. Sixs to hit with a chainsword is a dead ork. Going forwards with bigger games in the future gonna have another crusader squad, redemptor from the box, chaplian and bladeguard. Edit: I learn the power of fight first when being charged and prolonged combat, I only wanted the extra attack for him. Edited October 21, 2021 by ChargingSoll Dosjetka and Marshal Reinhard 2 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOneTrueZon Posted October 22, 2021 Share Posted October 22, 2021 Anyone heard of when the rest of the good stuff, ie - Helbrecht, Grimaldus, Castellan Chonk, will be dropping? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Anyone heard of when the rest of the good stuff, ie - Helbrecht, Grimaldus, Castellan Chonk, will be dropping? GW announced November, so November. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 So I've been rolling AAC atound in my head, and I think I was looking at it wrong: the bonus attack isn't the main buff, the bonus AP from being in the Assault Doctrine early is. Plus we don't have to switch Doctrines right away meaning we can ride the Tactical Docteine for an extra turn with no downside (doctrine-wise). On a different note, anyone else suspecting Bladeguard, Vanguard Vets and flamer type weapons might go up in points this December? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 Vanguard vets probably, doubt the rest will. Khornestar 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 AAC basically giving us the benefit of the Tactical Doctrine and Assault Doctrine for two turns is, I think, really good. It may not be Uphold good, but I think it's better than the rest. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 AAC basically giving us the benefit of the Tactical Doctrine and Assault Doctrine for two turns is, I think, really good. It may not be Uphold good, but I think it's better than the rest.Yeah, that I think is the strongest part about it. The extra attacks in prolonged combats are just icing on that increased lethality cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tvih Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 I know my Vindicator wouldn't want to get stuck in melee because of AAC - but yes, overall it's a solid Vow, with only Uphold being better. And in some matchups AAC could even be better. BitsHammer 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khornestar Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 So I've been rolling AAC atound in my head, and I think I was looking at it wrong: the bonus attack isn't the main buff, the bonus AP from being in the Assault Doctrine early is. Plus we don't have to switch Doctrines right away meaning we can ride the Tactical Docteine for an extra turn with no downside (doctrine-wise). On a different note, anyone else suspecting Bladeguard, Vanguard Vets and flamer type weapons might go up in points this December? Why flamers, do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted October 23, 2021 Share Posted October 23, 2021 So I've been rolling AAC atound in my head, and I think I was looking at it wrong: the bonus attack isn't the main buff, the bonus AP from being in the Assault Doctrine early is. Plus we don't have to switch Doctrines right away meaning we can ride the Tactical Docteine for an extra turn with no downside (doctrine-wise). On a different note, anyone else suspecting Bladeguard, Vanguard Vets and flamer type weapons might go up in points this December? Why flamers, do you think?It's only a guess based on Pyreblasters being 10 points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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