Blindhamster Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 A turn based strategy game is very different from a 3rd person RPG. They both have very different goals, intended audiences and pros/cons. Turn based games aren’t lame if done well (look at the xcom reboots). This looks good. That’s not to say a 3rd person RPG wouldn’t also be great, I love both types of games, but it needs a very large studio behind it to be able to realise it as something that isn’t shallow and lame cretacianborn and Tymell 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5735938 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Closet Skeleton Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 (edited) OG Chaos Gate was basically the last major attempt at a 3d graphics XCOM clone before the Firaxis hit reboot so using the forgotten Chaos Gate name and bringing in radically new gameplay would be weird. You could probably make a better 2d retro RPG for cheaper than a dissapointing Outer Worlds wannabe (which from reviews was itself dissapointing). If Bioware or Obsidian can't even make a decent modern equivilant to Mass Effect than a liscensed Inquisitor game is going to fail. An Inquisitor version of Disco Elysium or Pillars of Eternity over an Inquistor Cyberpunk 2077 with no hope of getting post launch support if it flops. Edited August 28, 2021 by Closet Skeleton Halandaar 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5735943 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SkimaskMohawk Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Or Titanicus into the breach. That would be fantastic. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5735970 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Why do people never understand that multiple types of games can and do exist alongside eachother... Halandaar and BLACK BLŒ FLY 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5735984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 I understand that the warhammer board game itself is turn based.... And gw reeeally want to stay on brand Sure I suppose if you ignore the raging success of the Total War Warhammer games, series like Dawn of War, Battlefleet Gothic Armada and Vermintide, standalones like Space Marine, Deathwing, Inquisitor:Martyr, Hired Gun and Chaosbane and upcoming stuff like Darktide, you might be able to make the argument GW wants to "stay on brand" and only pushes turn-based video games. Aside from the fact that in recent years the turn-based Warhammer games coming out have been some of the better ones (see Battlesector and Mechanicus) in a sea of dross, GW doesn't directly dictate which kind of games get made, they simply approve or deny game pitches which request use of their IP. They can no more get an "old school mass effect" style game in to production than they can get an Airbus A380 decked out like a Thunderhawk. Someone has to come to them with a concept. And anyway, who is even going to make this pie in the sky ME-type Inquisitor game? Bioware can't even make games of that quality any more, and those type of massive games take a huge amount of financial investment. The studios with the resources and pedigree to pull off a game like that are already big enough that they don't need to pay to borrow GWs IP in order to sell their games. That leaves you with serially-average devs or startup indie studios who need the clout of the 40k license to help attract buyers. Lord Abaia, SteveAntilles and Kastor Krieg 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5736005 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil Eye Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 A super-immersive Inquisitor RPG where you can create your own Inquisitor and customize them down to the last purity seal would be neat. However, given that such games are few and far between nowadays (with the ME series having failed spectacularly with Andromeda, Dragon Age being completely irrelevant nowadays thanks to EA's mismanagement and Bioware's interesting writing, The Elder Scrolls being the same incredibly shallow game being released over and over for 10 years now and Cyberpunk 2077 being a synonym for embarrassingly rushed and terribly put together games in spite of almost being vapourware from the constant delays) I wouldn't expect it to happen any time soon- or if it did it would probably be a total disaster. That being said, from what I played so far I've been enjoying Inquisitor: Martyr, so maybe there is hope? Anyway, the trailers for this look good. I just hope the game itself is decent and not just a mobile game ported to PC. I'm still feeling a bit burned by Stormground. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5736023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Rohr Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Love the trailer, a little skeptical of the game. Hired gun was kinda cool but couldn’t finish it. Total War is really the franchises last major success. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5736028 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scribe Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 Love the trailer, a little skeptical of the game. Hired gun was kinda cool but couldn’t finish it. Total War is really the franchises last major success. Yeah, I dont know why its so hard seemingly to hit the right note and get a truly massive 40K success out there. Going back to the early/mid 2000's for DoW 1/2 is rough. Marshal Rohr 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5736059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 28, 2021 Share Posted August 28, 2021 It had to be witches. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5736068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Love the trailer, a little skeptical of the game. Hired gun was kinda cool but couldn’t finish it. Total War is really the franchises last major success. Yeah, I dont know why its so hard seemingly to hit the right note and get a truly massive 40K success out there. Going back to the early/mid 2000's for DoW 1/2 is rough. Battlesector is great and very recent! Not AAA by any means but punches incredibly above it's weight Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5736234 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 I mean, if they basically have it play like xcom- it can probably be a huge success. There was a fair scope for customisation in the original chaos gate, grey knights getting customised could be very cool. Charlo 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5736286 Share on other sites More sharing options...
grailkeeper Posted August 29, 2021 Share Posted August 29, 2021 Theres a new Blood Bow game coming out too. Ots been delayed in order to get more of a polish. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5736287 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roryokane Posted August 30, 2021 Share Posted August 30, 2021 Loved the original Chaos Gate, very excited for this! Just sad there’s no Ultramarines in sight! :( Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5736754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted September 30, 2021 Author Share Posted September 30, 2021 The new trailer has just premiered. Vesalius, Oiad, Loquille and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5747618 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blindhamster Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I dispute it being a gameplay trailer, more if an in engine one. It I’m definitely excited for this Bryan Blaire 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5747632 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 On the one hand its witches, on the pther i do like turn based tactics and deamon purging Silas7 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5747633 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vesalius Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Looks very promising! I’ve been skeptical about this one, but now I’m feeling a bit more warmed up to it. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5747641 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaplain Lucifer Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I got the urge to play the old one while this one isn't out! That's how much I'm excited about this! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5747642 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Knight Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Excited and hoping we get a gameplay trailer soon. Also why is that Terminator at the end the size of a bungalow? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5747649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlo Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Excited and hoping we get a gameplay trailer soon. Also why is that Terminator at the end the size of a bungalow? He's stood on ruins about as tall as a normal space marine :) _Valten_ 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5747653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Halandaar Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I dispute it being a gameplay trailer, more if an in engine one. It I’m definitely excited for this Agreed. I didn't learn anything about how it plays, just what it looks like. Bryan Blaire, MegaVolt87 and Iron Sapper 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5747676 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Looks very nice. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5747694 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitnam Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Okay this looks pretty cool. I pray to the Changer of Ways we get to fight more then Nurgle in this game. Between the Dark Imperium books, Deacon of Wounds, Lords of Silence, and Vermintide, I am quite plagued out Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5747711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mechanicus Tech-Support Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 I like that they kept it turn base and what looks like a galaxy map to travel through so we can pick up goodies. God if I could get the original to work on my pc id be playing that in anticipation roryokane 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5747771 Share on other sites More sharing options...
roryokane Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 Me too, though I find it amusing that someone with the username Mechanicus Tech-Support is having trouble with some old computer game. Feels apt. “Ah, the legends of the dark age of technology are lost to us…” “Dude it came out in 1998.” “So ancient. So mysterious.” Mechanicus Tech-Support, Hathor42, Cactus and 5 others 8 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370543-chaos-gate-daemonhunters/page/3/#findComment-5747784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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