Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I think there will be support coming, but 8 new kits? That seems a bit unlikely to me. Some of those must be dual build characters.Would have chalked it up as a literal impossibility if it haven't been for the second community survey results, which have been mentioned more than once in conjunction with these rumors. I'm pretty sure that's just fan conjecture at this point, fans hearing the rumour and trying to think of a reason why so much could appear. Doesn't mean it won't be proven true though. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5726424 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dangerman Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I do hope they bring back Grimaldus's ability to either regenerate a wound or just keep on fighting if he has lost all wounds. It's a massive part of his character. Old Grimmy was basically a leadership test each turn he had lost all wounds to see if he kept on going, or later a 5+ wound regeneration roll. GW please? +1 And he was the first one with a fearless aura as nobody else had a aura. The Argent Shroud Order has a stratagem "Faith is our shield" that pretty much mimics "It will not die" the 6th Ed. Grimaldus had. You basically roll to see if a mortal wound happens. Noteworthy; That's the order who fought alongside Grimaldus in the Cathedral in Helsreach. The precedent is there. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5726440 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I think there will be support coming, but 8 new kits? That seems a bit unlikely to me. Some of those must be dual build characters.Would have chalked it up as a literal impossibility if it haven't been for the second community survey results, which have been mentioned more than once in conjunction with these rumors. I'm pretty sure that's just fan conjecture at this point, Would've agreed, except I think Laeroth chimed in with an "oh yeah". Which sure, that could've just been conjecture on his part... BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5726468 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I'm just gonna enter stasis for a month, tease and reveals should be out by then no? Siri, how do I induce a coma?. Sarvis, BLACK BLŒ FLY, Eberious and 2 others 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5726511 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Laeroth Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 I think there will be support coming, but 8 new kits? That seems a bit unlikely to me. Some of those must be dual build characters.Would have chalked it up as a literal impossibility if it haven't been for the second community survey results, which have been mentioned more than once in conjunction with these rumors.I'm pretty sure that's just fan conjecture at this point,Would've agreed, except I think Laeroth chimed in with an "oh yeah". Which sure, that could've just been conjecture on his part... It wasn't. Marshal Reinhard and TheOneTrueZon 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5726518 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 (edited) See, I bring up Mr. L a lot, but it pays dividends to do so Edited August 4, 2021 by Reinhard Sword Brother Adelard 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5726519 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Laeroth Posted August 4, 2021 Share Posted August 4, 2021 See, I bring up Mr. L a lot, but it pays dividends to do so It's like a Bat signal. Trignama, Schlitzaf, painting.for.my.sanity and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5726523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 GK & TS released today so shouldn’t be too much longer now. :D Marius_Aurilius 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Like I said before I hope we get a tease this month. But we still have 2 AoS armies to go trough. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727331 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLACK BLŒ FLY Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Shouldn’t be much longer now… Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 7, 2021 Share Posted August 7, 2021 Abhor the witch, destroy the witch on Tuesdays, brother Really? I recite Suffer Not the Unclean to Live while purging myself in the scalding waters of the emperor's wrath (showering), Abhor the witch. Destroy the Witch while resisting the psyker powers of Slaanesh's demoness (wife's mind games), Uphold the Honour of the Emperor while protecting the feeble and weak mortal men (my children) and Accept Any Challenge, No Matter the Odds every time I fearlessly confront the mighty beast (my dog). if I didn't recite all 4 daily I'd probably have fallen to Chaos by now. Sete, Eberious, Brother Carpenter and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727376 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Maybe its just 5 crusaders 5 neophytes Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sword Brother Adelard Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 (edited) I kind of have to agree on devout push, I'd be surprised if that survives, but looking at recent releases, we're just as likely to get a baked in rule which was just as useful. Edited August 8, 2021 by Brother Adelard Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I can already imagine the insane demand to buy up crusader boxes just for the neophytes as better scale scouts. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
CastellanDeMolay Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I can already imagine the insane demand to buy up crusader boxes just for the neophytes as better scale scouts. I don't know about this, it seems like Scouts are very much out of style at the moment; what with their high points cost relative to power armoured marines and their restriction to the Elites slot. Unless Crusader Squads became a baseline unit for all SM sub-factions, then I can't see GW going to the trouble of re-working them so soon after the new SM codex. Personally, I'm imagining that Neophytes in a Primaris Crusader Squad will operate somewhat differently to their firstborn brethren, it fits the pattern of Primaris units being analogues to firstborn units, but fulfilling their role in at least a slightly different manner. (think Inceptors being like Assault Squads, but close range fire support rather than CQC specialists, or Hellblasters being like Devastators, but with completely homogenous loadouts, trading flexibility for a good gun on the sergeant) What I'd like to see, would be the Neophytes taking up a combination of meat-shield and support role, where they would be significantly less well armed and armoured than their Initiate tutor, but carrying spare weapons or ammunition to fulfil a more squire-like role. Perhaps add a rule that for every Neophyte that doesn't make an attack, an Initiate can add +1AP to their attacks, or something similar, to represent equipping a fresh chainsword, or using hand-crafted bolter shells, or something else that suggests the Neophyte's role in helping to maintain the Initiate's equipment and armour. (I like to imagine that with the extra help they would be able to do so to a higher standard than most other chapters) Realistically, I think we'll see 5 Reivers packed in with 5 Assault Intercessors, because GW wants to shift Reivers, although they will probably get some good rules to make their use more worthwhile. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727564 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 It's not gonna be phobos neophytes. Sword Brother Adelard, Trignama and Sete 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727571 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trignama Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 It's not gonna be phobos neophytes. Yeah I don't know why people think this lol, scouts are still a thing. Also, it doesn't matter if scouts for vanilla chapters are in the elites slot, BT don't even have a scout company, they are just additions to crusader squads, and I feel like there is a 99.99% chance this is not changing. Scouts will be neophytes. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727605 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 From the warcom article today: "We’ve got a magnificent new miniature to preview on Monday, loads more Kill Team info, and then, come Friday, there’s the trifling matter of a road map for upcoming codexes!" My body is ready for that miniature.... tomorrow? Gotta be Helbrecht Or are we missing some orc still? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727674 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirJyo Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Hasn't been a roadmap for a while, guess they are confident in their potential setbacks. Helbrecht tomorrow I hope Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727681 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 I would prefer the Emperor Champion. Shadowshand 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshal Reinhard Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Most likely option is its for AoS anyway. But if it were a Templar model, I just think it'll be Helbrecht before anything else... he'll be shown as the one character model we were supposed to get when the other chapters each got a character each. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727687 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eberious Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 If it's BT related I'll be peeing myself either way, however I would think it would be the Emperors Champion to tie in with the teaser. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sete Posted August 8, 2021 Share Posted August 8, 2021 Most likely option is its for AoS anyway. But if it were a Templar model, I just think it'll be Helbrecht before anything else... he'll be shown as the one character model we were supposed to get when the other chapters each got a character each. Think we have seen enough AoS so far, time to see some of our boys. Trignama, Marshal Valkenhayn and Sarvis 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727724 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowshand Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I play AoS myself, and am also done with seeing stuff for that game, puleeze... Sarvis 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727801 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayrich131 Posted August 9, 2021 Share Posted August 9, 2021 I'm pretty sure the Stormcast and Orruk releases should be done, the dragon cavalry seemed like the bottom of the barrel. I'm not certain that it's BT because they've only given us a tiny teaser and a couple rumour engines so far but I wouldn't be surprised. I'm much more excited (and nervous) for the codex roadmap on Friday. I will be signing out of YT and forums and doing a full media blackout to avoid spoilers. BLACK BLŒ FLY 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/370962-black-templar-teaser-and-rumors/page/15/#findComment-5727812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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