Mazer Rackham Posted July 31, 2023 Author Share Posted July 31, 2023 40 minutes ago, Machine God said: @Mazer Rackham - I take it that The Golem is only a helpless target for Scourge and Hywelsbane? The specialness of it is for Scourges DoS' and no-one else? The DoS is for banishment of the daemon within the Samech chassis and relates only to Holy Damage, DoS from other factors will contribute very little for reasons below... 40 minutes ago, Machine God said: No chance of big bullets versus the Golem now? ...attacks from normal weapons will do absolutely nothing, as the Golem proper has both Daemonic and From Beyond, meaning only two things are going to hurt it; Jack and Hywelsbane, and Jack left town. You can narratively shoot up the smaller statues if you want to drop a post in. Bombing across to add bonuses to Tech Use is advised, since Tro has already done his Tech Use for Round 7, he's a DoF down and you're running out of time. 35 minutes ago, A.T. said: Falk is with Bardas to offer an assist - which is about as much as he can do. Does Bardas not have a combi-tool after all this time? As stated by Tro a couple of times, he window shopped it, and not much else. Necronaut 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5977786 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: 1 hour ago, A.T. said: Does Bardas not have a combi-tool after all this time? As stated by Tro a couple of times, he window shopped it, and not much else. If I recall correctly an Auspex was purchased instead (with donated funds), and I did get Tech-Use +10 skill and some more Int around the same time as well to try and make all the Teching better. If we survive this I’ll save up for one. Edit: Plus we all know that if I had a better than 50% to do anything my dice would see that as a challenge. Edited July 31, 2023 by Trokair Machine God and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5977791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: Oh and Happy Birthday to this game as of yesterday. Oh my, Happy Birthday Damoclease Damocles. Edited July 31, 2023 by Trokair Edit: You would think that after a year I could spell Damocles. Machine God, Mazer Rackham and Necronaut 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5977796 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Reynard's actions this Round are covered by previous post, happy to move on to the main event of Bardas and Scourge! Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5977945 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 @Trokair I dunno for sure, but don't we want to activate the emergency plasma vent? Turning it off will stop any further build up, but it's already at 80% which is probably still a risk of blowing up? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: @Trokair I dunno for sure, but don't we want to activate the emergency plasma vent? Turning it off will stop any further build up, but it's already at 80% which is probably still a risk of blowing up? Arn't we in the path of the emergency vent? Lysimachus and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978051 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 @Lysimachus Bardas was a sleeper agent from Samech all along! He'll kill us all! What a twist! Mazer Rackham and Lysimachus 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978052 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, Necronaut said: @Lysimachus Bardas was a sleeper agent from Samech all along! He'll kill us all! What a twist! So sleeper he did not even know about it. Necronaut and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978054 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Trokair said: Arn't we in the path of the emergency vent? Ooh, that's a good point... Good call! Mazer Rackham and Necronaut 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 I guess we have to vent, everybody run. Lysimachus, Mazer Rackham and Necronaut 1 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978062 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 To quote St. Bender, fore-runner of the Men of Iron and patron saint of Libations and Larceny, "CHEESE IT!" Or, alternatively, for you xenos-lovers, "WOOP WOOP WOOP WOOP!" Mazer Rackham, Trokair and Lysimachus 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978066 Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.T. Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 10 minutes ago, Trokair said: I guess we have to vent, everybody run. Who could have possibly forseen this outcome... (glances at sprint talent taken in the last round of purchases) :p Necronaut, Mazer Rackham, Lysimachus and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978067 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) Hang on, hang on. The chamber we are in is like a Mechanicus shrine/control room for the Stack, right? So what kind of nut designs the Stack to vent through the control room??? Aren't we safe where we are? Edit: or did I misunderstand? Were all the fancy templum stuff and controls added to this chamber by the Golem and its followers, but the physical space is actually just a part of the vent system? Edited August 1, 2023 by Lysimachus Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978071 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 3 minutes ago, Lysimachus said: So what kind of nut designs the Stack to vent through the control room??? That would be Sector Magos, Second of The Order Automata, K M Brahzil. A pioneer and student of research into heat treatments on advanced materials, Magos Brahzil convened the first Conclave of Claving in 177.449.M37. This meeting lasted roughly half an hour before the macro-engine of the Cobra Class destroyer which the Clade was working on, and kept in a state of readiness for fuel pressure testing, ignited when one member of the clade in a servo-harness lit his plasma cutter in order to equally divide the last coffee biscuit. The resulting explosion and tumult glassed the entire test chamber. The Conclave of Claving was deemed a complete success as it did indeed purify the materials of all biological incompetence. Necronaut, Lysimachus and Trokair 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978078 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 32 minutes ago, Mazer Rackham said: That would be Sector Magos, Second of The Order Automata, K M Brahzil. A pioneer and student of research into heat treatments on advanced materials, Magos Brahzil convened the first Conclave of Claving in 177.449.M37. This meeting lasted roughly half an hour before the macro-engine of the Cobra Class destroyer which the Clade was working on, and kept in a state of readiness for fuel pressure testing, ignited when one member of the clade in a servo-harness lit his plasma cutter in order to equally divide the last coffee biscuit. The resulting explosion and tumult glassed the entire test chamber. The Conclave of Claving was deemed a complete success as it did indeed purify the materials of all biological incompetence. This is just absurd enough to have likely actually happened somewhere, sometime, somehow. Lysimachus and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978089 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Oops, sorry GM! Don't think I spoiled anything but will edit/delete my post if required? Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 I see no spoilers... Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trokair Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, Lysimachus said: So what kind of nut designs the Stack to vent through the control room??? Mazers excellent tibit aside, I would imagine a Magos who knew that if things went wrong and venting was required, then the duty Magos that initiated the venting would not want to be around afterwards to take the blame for whatever went wrong. Death by incineration being preferable then a Adminstratum special investigation. Lysimachus, Mazer Rackham and Necronaut 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Trokair said: Mazers excellent tibit aside, I would imagine a Magos who knew that if things went wrong and venting was required, then the duty Magos that initiated the venting would not want to be around afterwards to take the blame for whatever went wrong. Death by incineration being preferable then a Adminstratum special investigation. There is that... Also... quick, someone fedex Mazer's dice to Tro!!! The target number to get 4DoS over the 4 rolls would be 59 on each one? (which would equal 1DoS per dice) So (I think?) that means it's better than half chance overall, but I can't do the maths well enough to work out the odds properly! Edited August 1, 2023 by Lysimachus Trokair and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) Hmm, assuming Mazer allows MG/Restal to make one of the 4 rolls, that would put us on 1DoS in total so far, with 1 more roll to make and 3 more DoS needed. So Bardas will need a roll of 39 or less... Tro, have you got any FP left to reroll the 93? (Reynard has 2, if he's allowed to contribute them to another PC?) Edited August 1, 2023 by Lysimachus Machine God and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lysimachus said: Tro, have you got any FP left to reroll the 93? (Reynard has 2, if he's allowed to contribute them to another PC?) Regrettably, no. You need Tech Use, and this is a very specific challenge. Before, the donation of FP was a little blanket to massage the encounter. Here it's pretty straightforward. Edited August 1, 2023 by Mazer Rackham Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978164 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lysimachus said: There is that... Also... quick, someone fedex Mazer's dice to Tro!!! The target number to get 4DoS over the 4 rolls would be 59 on each one? (which would equal 1DoS per dice) So (I think?) that means it's better than half chance overall, but I can't do the maths well enough to work out the odds properly! Your odds of failing on all four of the rolls (i.e. generating 1 DoS or fewer on each of the four rolls) is P(.41) = 0.41^4 = 2.8%. Conversely, generating a minimum of 1 DoS on each of the four rolls, or 4 DoS across 4 rolls, is P(.59) = 0.59^4 = 12.1%. However, this doesn't take into account degrees of success (i.e. bonus successes granted by exceeding the target value), nor am I entirely sure how to calculate that, as I performed this quick and dirty analysis assuming a binomial (coin-flip) analysis. Suffice it to say, you odds of generating a minimum of 4 DoS while low is ~4x greater than failing utterly with 0 DoS. Now that I think about it though this doesn't account for degrees of failure either... This problem requires more research. Edited August 1, 2023 by Necronaut Lysimachus and Mazer Rackham 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978169 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysimachus Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) Yeah, I figured as much (though much less elegantly expressed!) Then I got to trying to figure out how adding up the DoS/F and gave up... Looks like it's a moot point, anyway. That's some damn nice rolling, @Trokair!!! We get to live! Edit: please excuse the Lock/Unlock, the damn screen refreshed and moved as I was typing!!! Edited August 1, 2023 by Lysimachus Necronaut and Mazer Rackham 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mazer Rackham Posted August 1, 2023 Author Share Posted August 1, 2023 (edited) Make sure to add into your calculations the expenditure of Fate to acquire another DoS. This would be specific to Bardas' Fate point tally though, (for an objective realisation of Tro's individual chances per attempt). 1 minute ago, Lysimachus said: Looks like it's a moot point, anyway. That's some damn nice rolling, @Trokair!!! We get to live! That can be remedied. Edited August 1, 2023 by Mazer Rackham Being evil. Necronaut 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978172 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necronaut Posted August 1, 2023 Share Posted August 1, 2023 Really what I can do is just calculate the odds for each integer value of DoS or DoF on any roll for a given target number then sum them up to give us our probability distribution. The re-roll ability adds a minor complication to the overall calculation (increases our possible set of total rolls). I'll have a full presentation with charts ready by the end of the week (I still have to work my day job). Mazer Rackham 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/375214-dh1e-the-damocles-contingency-ooc/page/105/#findComment-5978175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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