Minsc Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Harrowmaster said: I was thinking on the bullgryn thing and I'm not sure it isn't deliberate. Because of the perceived extra durability of bullgryns, they may very well have decided the stratagem combos were too powerful. The Shield of Flesh stratagem is literally something Bullgryns used to have once (giving protection to infantry behind them). If it's not an oversight then it's sheer stupidity on GWs decisionmaking - which I wouldn't put past them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harrowmaster Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, Minsc said: The Shield of Flesh stratagem is literally something Bullgryns used to have once (giving protection to infantry behind them). If it's not an oversight then it's sheer stupidity on GWs decisionmaking - which I wouldn't put past them. I know it is but I'd be hesitant to say it's a clear error with their track record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaipii Posted December 7, 2022 Share Posted December 7, 2022 7 hours ago, TCC said: FYI You miss quoted it, the bit you missed is key, it’s the each that defines it as more than one, “Troopers can each have their” it’s very clear to me that you can take two of the per unit. Thanks! At the moment it's clear RAW. The asterisk just doesn't make sense as it restricts you to only have two of the same weapon. Must have been supposed to say "same weapon only ONCE". Waiting for the FAQ :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted December 9, 2022 Author Share Posted December 9, 2022 Can the vox proclimatus be used from inside a chimera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 On 12/7/2022 at 2:05 PM, Minsc said: The Shield of Flesh stratagem is literally something Bullgryns used to have once (giving protection to infantry behind them). If it's not an oversight then it's sheer stupidity on GWs decisionmaking - which I wouldn't put past them. It was a strat in 8th too. I dont remember if it was core book or in greater good though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted December 9, 2022 Share Posted December 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Can the vox proclimatus be used from inside a chimera? If that was the relic then yes. Units inside transports are functionally not on the table and can't be affected by strats, and can only interact with stuff on the board through specific exceptions, like the Chimeras commane vehicle rule. But a relic is an upgrade specific to the unit. So as long as it can issue orders, it can use anything the unit itself has. Inquisitor_Lensoven 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 More of something I just noticed and realized, than a question, but we no longer have shotguns anywhere in the codex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 1 hour ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: More of something I just noticed and realized, than a question, but we no longer have shotguns anywhere in the codex. Most, might not even realise they were there in first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L30n1d4s Posted December 10, 2022 Share Posted December 10, 2022 Well, actually... Iron Hand Straken has an Auto shotgun ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted December 10, 2022 Author Share Posted December 10, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, L30n1d4s said: Well, actually... Iron Hand Straken has an Auto shotgun ;) After posting this I knew someone was gonna come in here with that glad I converted a straken though, because I just realized he gives a squad a baby born soldiers Edited December 10, 2022 by Inquisitor_Lensoven Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 My questions: 1. Were LRBT supposed to lose emergency vents? Having your own Plasma cannon kill yourself with a single 1 is terribad. 2. Were all superheavy guns supposed to lose all special rules? Having their guns not match any past edition or even the lore printed in the same datasheet is...terrible. 3. Were demolisher cannons supposed to have different stats based on what vehicle they're mounted on? I'd understand having the amount of shots be different, but they're not, it's the damage that's different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L30n1d4s Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 They now use "Militarum Plasma Cannons," which only do 1 MW per 1 rolled to their unit. Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mertbl Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 24 minutes ago, Seahawk said: My questions: 1. Were LRBT supposed to lose emergency vents? Having your own Plasma cannon kill yourself with a single 1 is terribad. 2. Were all superheavy guns supposed to lose all special rules? Having their guns not match any past edition or even the lore printed in the same datasheet is...terrible. 3. Were demolisher cannons supposed to have different stats based on what vehicle they're mounted on? I'd understand having the amount of shots be different, but they're not, it's the damage that's different. Regards to number 3, yeah they are different demolisher cannons now. Emperor Ming 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 23 minutes ago, Seahawk said: My questions: 1. Were LRBT supposed to lose emergency vents? Having your own Plasma cannon kill yourself with a single 1 is terribad. 2. Were all superheavy guns supposed to lose all special rules? Having their guns not match any past edition or even the lore printed in the same datasheet is...terrible. 3. Were demolisher cannons supposed to have different stats based on what vehicle they're mounted on? I'd understand having the amount of shots be different, but they're not, it's the damage that's different. 1. That's covered in the wording of the muintorum plasma cannons, its just1mw 2, terrible, covers quite a bit in this dex, /looks at catachan datasheet 3, demolisher cannons really needed d6+3 shots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawk Posted December 12, 2022 Share Posted December 12, 2022 (edited) Oh I see about 1. I love that there are multiple profiles for the same weapons now. Much consistent, so useful. Wait a minute, if nothing in the codex can take a regular Plasma cannon, why bother including its stats? Edited December 13, 2022 by Seahawk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emperor Ming Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Servitors is the answer, sadly duz_ and librisrouge 1 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duz_ Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 This thread was temporarily locked as the discussion veered completely off track. Offending posts have been moved to the appropriate thread. https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/376747-army-box-new-codex-bad-taste/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted December 20, 2022 Author Share Posted December 20, 2022 Veteran geurillas says ‘attacks’ made from 18” or less ignore cover. Does that include melee attacks fighting against targets inside of cover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrKoolPants Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 28 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Veteran geurillas says ‘attacks’ made from 18” or less ignore cover. Does that include melee attacks fighting against targets inside of cover? I reckon it does. Probably intended to give a fluffy little boost to Catachan armies. Inquisitor_Lensoven 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sairence Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 You don't get a bonus to save for being in cover in melee though. Not sure what that would affect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TCC Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 20 minutes ago, sairence said: You don't get a bonus to save for being in cover in melee though. Not sure what that would affect? Some units do (Ork commando’s as an example) sairence 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dees Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 TCC is correct and I'm fairly sure there are or will be others. That being said I don't see an upside to getting into combat with orks so just shoot them if at all possible. duz_ 1 Back to top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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