Horus Heresy More Forge World Kits Vanish

[01RTB01]

5 hours ago, Orange Knight said:

I don't know if anyone else feels the same, but I sure would love a plastic Astraeus tank...

Nope. Hideously ugly tank. It can take a backseat behind the above list, assault marines and breachers 

[Brother Borgia]

There’s one good use of the Astraeus tank.

 

 

[OttoVonAwesome]

Been waiting for the Sabre to go plastic. The price on the resin one was so out to lunch for such a small tank and I do mean small they are teeny tiny.

[Marshal Mittens]

I am pretty excited for all those models. Eventually, when I finish my first two legions, I would like to do 'Loyalist' Deathguard (Dusk Raiders) and have them use a lot of Bombards / pre-plague burst crawlers. 

 

The big legion tanks would be a treat though. The Kratos is pretty big its self, and for sure a great center piece, but really the blades and glaives would be just amazing, to have at least 1 per legion. 

 

I would also love the Saber in plastic, especially if they sold the little guys in packs of 2 or 3. 

Edited March 25, 2023 by Marshal Mittens

[Elzender]

Mastodon feels a bit weird, surely if GW wanted to line their pockets with gold with a Space marine superheavy the thunderhawk would be the place to go? I mean, I will still be happy to see a plastic mastodon, but if I had to choose, the hawk would me my holy grail and I feel I wouldn't be the only one. 

[Noserenda]

Good point, i mean the Mastadon is hardly less of a challenge than a thunderhawk at that point and its a hell of a lot more iconic.

(Plus though mostly based in 1st edition and earlier, Thunderhawks are fun* to play with unlike Mastadons)

*Putting aside the stress of huge, fragile models on flying stems :D 

[System Sound]

Why stop at Mastadons! Give us the plastic Thunderhawk (not the tiny one). And Stormbirds! Hell why not even titans! Make all the money!

[Marshal Mittens]

I personally think we will see Titans in Plastic, eventually. They are moving a lot of the forge world knights over, probably all of them eventually, and then we will probably get a Warhound in a few years, and maybe some other larger titans after that. In my opinion, anyway. I am looking forward to some of the larger knights too, as they are probably about as big as I will ever play with, as my max table size at home is probably 16x6 but more practically 8x6 if I am not playing in the garage. 

 

[Doghouse]

I think I can see the reasoning behind the Mastadon because it's a mobile fortress, the Thunderhawk is way more iconic as a vehicle but I think the Mastadon has a lot of cross compatibility with weapon sprues and is more practical for the average gamer to include in their games.

 

The Thunderhawk is more iconic and I'd love to see one but feels more like a collector's kit to me rather than something that will turn up in games of both 30k and 40k. Same for titans, I'd love a plastic Warhound more than any other GW kit in the history of the company but not sure it'd be practical for gaming that often. I think there is a line when models become predominantly collector kits rather than gaming pieces but having said that I am certain Thunderhawks would sell out instantly on release.

 

I'm most excited about a possible Fellblade and it's variants.

[Misterduch]

I mean, if the Mastadon is moving to plastic than the thunderhawk is at that point more of a "when" than "if" innit?

[Chapter Master Valrak]

I know GW has bought bigger plastic machines, I also know a lot of this may be warehouse related. Exciting times whatever happens xD

[skylerboodie]

5 hours ago, Chapter Master Valrak said:

I know GW has bought bigger plastic machines, I also know a lot of this may be warehouse related. Exciting times whatever happens xD

I hoped the bigger machines was because they were bringing their terrain manufacture in-house rather than in China, so kits would be available for longer; but I'll take bigger vehicle kits instead!

[MithrilForge]

19 minutes ago, skylerboodie said:

I hoped the bigger machines was because they were bringing their terrain manufacture in-house rather than in China, so kits would be available for longer; but I'll take bigger vehicle kits instead!

Gee … making terrain in house, they charge like a wounded bull for kits made in china, imagine the excuses they’ll make for charging for in house stuff … “it’s made in the UK so to make shareholders happy we have to double the profits.err we mean price”. 
 

[Matcap86]

6 hours ago, Chapter Master Valrak said:

 I also know a lot of this may be warehouse related. 

 

Tread softly for you are treading on my dreams. 

[Mr. Oddity]

15 hours ago, Brother Borgia said:

There’s one good use of the Astraeus tank.

 

 

@Brother Borgia That is beautiful. Your own work or found online?

 

On topic, I would also be interested in a plastic Sabre. Since they came out I though they could make for good Predator conversions to tie the modern turret to heresy design cues. I also could see their reasoning behind doing the Mastodon before the Thunderhawk due to their recent leanings against aircraft in typical games. I'm not familiar with HH points or army construction but I imagine working in a larger transport tank in would be easier than a massive flying transport.

[WARMASTER_]

On 3/25/2023 at 12:47 AM, Mr. Oddity said:

As a capstone model to my Primaris company it would be amazing, but definitely not holding my breath for it.

Weirdly in lore the Astraeus isn’t a Cawl “Primaris” innovation, the STC was recovered by the Minotaurs before just the great rift opened then they blended the tech

 

It’s almost seems like a certain arch Magos found some similar STC’s in the distant past… Funny that 

 

Anyway back on topic! I was really hoping to see the Storm Eagle or Javelin on the horizon but I guess it’s likely more tanks, these are a good list nonetheless, as long as we get some MKV with the releases I’ll be happy we were promised more infantry after all 

[Anvilarium]

• Plastic Sabres? Sure!
• Plastic Arquitors? Why not!
• Plastic Fellblade/Glaive/Falchion? Definitely within the realms of possibility!

 

• Plastic MASTODON?? Nope. Sorry. I'm just not buying it. If GW DID make a plastic Mastodon, it would be some way AFTER a plastic Thunderhawk, which has been demanded by many, many more players, for much, much longer.

[Marshal Reinhard]

Big as a mastodon is, its not as big as a thunderhawk, meaning scaling is on its side over the latter.

[Master Commander Ajax]

If we are indeed getting a Mastadon in plastic then I’m sure a Thunderhawk a million miles away. IIRC part of the reason they don’t make the large kits in plastic is because of the box size. Perhaps there’s been a change of philosophy? Extra large boxes to be sold online only maybe? 

[Astartes Consul]

Reckon you could fit a plastic Mastadon in a Baneblade sized box if the sprues were done smartly. IIRC that is the largest boxed kit in plastic GW do. 

[MithrilForge]

Honestly I don’t think people would mind if the Mastadon or Thunderhawk sized kits were packaged in 2 boxes -part A and Part B …. I sure wouldn’t care !! …

 

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[Marshal Mittens]

Thunderhawks are kind of like shelf queens. I have seen maybe 1 thunder hawk in the wild, ever. People bring out resin knights and titans to apocalypse games, but do they really bring thunderhawks?

 

I would like a thunderhawk, for sure, but I think it's realistically not in my que. A mastodon doesn't need a flight stand, and is thus much more likely to be seen in games. I think they would sell more big Knights, warhound titans and mastodons in plastic than they would thunderhawks, and more of all of those would actually see use.

 

A plastic thunderhawk is a cool but not practical addition to the range.

Edited March 27, 2023 by Marshal Mittens

[conscriptboris]

17 minutes ago, Marshal Mittens said:

Thunderhawks are kinds like shelf queens. I have sent maybe 1 thunder hawk in the wild, ever. People bring out resin knights and titans to apocalypse games, but do they really bring thunderhawks?

 

I would like a thunderhawk, for sure, but I think it's realistically not in my que. A mastodon doesn't need a flight stand, and is thus much more likely to be seen in games. I think they would sell more big Knights, warhound titans and mastodons in plastic than they would thunderhawks, and more of all of those would actually see use.

 

A plastic thunderhawk is a cool but not practical addition to the range.

 

Agreed, my stormbird and Thunderhawk wing has seen one battle. They swooped on, dropped cargo, sat on the edge and fired. They were rarely shot at, as their damage output wasnt worrying enough to try and take them down.

Then they went into retirement... 

 

However, if it came out in plastic, id probably buy more..

 

[spessmarine]

On 3/25/2023 at 9:49 AM, Chapter Master Valrak said:

I know GW has bought bigger plastic machines, I also know a lot of this may be warehouse related. Exciting times whatever happens xD

 

plastic mastadon

plastic thunderhawk

plastic cerastus knights

[Noserenda]

3 hours ago, Marshal Mittens said:

Thunderhawks are kinds like shelf queens. I have sent maybe 1 thunder hawk in the wild, ever. People bring out resin knights and titans to apocalypse games, but do they really bring thunderhawks?

 

I would like a thunderhawk, for sure, but I think it's realistically not in my que. A mastodon doesn't need a flight stand, and is thus much more likely to be seen in games. I think they would sell more big Knights, warhound titans and mastodons in plastic than they would thunderhawks, and more of all of those would actually see use.

 

A plastic thunderhawk is a cool but not practical addition to the range.

Thats largely because big resin flyers are a nightmare to game with due to their weight and fragility, make it from plastic and nearly all those worries immediately vanish. In my experience there are probably similar numbers of thunderhawks out there to the bigger titans, certainly enough to justify the even bigger and more problematic stormbird getting a release. They managed to sell through the original metal ones fairly well too and those monsters weigh even more and literally fall apart on their own :D 

Its also the iconic marine flyer and superheavy which immediately throws its sales through the roof compared to over specialised kit like the Mastadon, even if they are shelf queens thats money in the pocket for GW its not all about the game, hell when you are dealing with models on that scale the game rarely even enters into it ;)