Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 Did Johnson have this forest walk ability in the HH or is that some new nappytime magic? Sea Creature 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadrach03 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 10 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: Did Johnson have this forest walk ability in the HH or is that some new nappytime magic? He did not have this ability in 30k. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted April 25, 2023 Author Share Posted April 25, 2023 So he’s a warp touched witch who needs to be burned at the stake, got it. tzeentch9, sarabando, Doghouse and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939482 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nagashsnee Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 44 minutes ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: So he’s a warp touched witch who needs to be burned at the stake, got it. Worse he is a deus ex lazy writing. See writing stories and conflicts on a galactic scale is hard, maintaining continuity is also hard. Now 40k does have warp travel to give it plenty of wiggle room, but that assumes the people writing this stuff know or care about keeping even the rules warp travel consistent. Back in 8th they went all out with time jumps and ongoing narratives and having stories set before, during and even after the current timeline but they realized it took effort and skill, as it was in fact hard. So that did not last, and they hit the re set button and rolled it all back. Now they COULD just spread the focus on more then a small list of special characters who have minis and not have to worry too much about who was where when, or you know make new dudes to replace the dudes who MUST have died in the grim darkness during all this time jumping war. Or you take the lazy way, introduce the ultimate get out of jail instant travel dude who can also bring others with him (as per his BL book), suddenly he can be pretty much anywhere at any time, its more or less DR who rules in the house with the Lion. But at least its easy. Antarius, mel_danes, darkseren1ty and 1 other 1 3 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939500 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyrox Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I have a couple of questions for someone who has read both The Lion: Son of the Forest, and Arks of Omen: The Lion... Does the Son of the Forest book take place before the Arks of Omens Lion book? Also, does either of the two books go into any detail on how he woke up, and the chamber he was sleeping in inside the Rock? If it just skips ahead to Dante pulling up in his truck and saying "Yo Dark Angels, look who I found!", then I really hope they are holding back some lore! Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939505 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spagunk Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 From the spoiler videos I have seen, yes. Son of the Forest takes place before the Arks of Omen book. Cyrox 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matcap86 Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 11 minutes ago, Cyrox said: I have a couple of questions for someone who has read both The Lion: Son of the Forest, and Arks of Omen: The Lion... Does the Son of the Forest book take place before the Arks of Omens Lion book? Also, does either of the two books go into any detail on how he woke up, and the chamber he was sleeping in inside the Rock? If it just skips ahead to Dante pulling up in his truck and saying "Yo Dark Angels, look who I found!", then I really hope they are holding back some lore! Read and finished the son of the forest: Spoiler Pretty much nothing on why, where or how he wakes up. Start of the book is him regaining conciousness while he is in his "forestwalking" mode. Cyrox and Khornestar 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939509 Share on other sites More sharing options...
G8Keeper Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 New article out outlining the story of Arks of Omen: The Lion. Don't recall them ever doing this when a book has only been live a few days? Hopefully it doesn't mean there are no more print runs, merely a delay. Sea Creature 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939527 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: So he’s a warp touched witch who needs to be burned at the stake, got it. You can track him by following the smell of pine, tread carefully brave Inquisitor for he has mastered the dark arts of Potpourii. Felix Antipodes, darkseren1ty, Cpt. Bannockburn and 7 others 2 7 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudblinker Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 The timing of the spoiler article is annoying since my preorder isn’t even scheduled to arrive until later today. Thankfully it is marked as a spoiler so I can avoid it. Odd for GW to spoil their own product when the initial deliveries aren’t even complete yet. I can’t remember them posting up spoiler articles this quickly for past products. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939543 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Nord in Gravis Armour Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I assume they're doing this because they're planning to refer to these events as part of the current state of the galaxy during the WarhammerFest preview on Saturday. Otherwise, it really is absurd timing. Felix Antipodes, Harleqvin, Noserenda and 1 other 4 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939548 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZeroWolf Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I can't even remember them doing it before. I certainly can't remember them summarising the AoS books like this. Certainly an odd move. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939549 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 3 hours ago, Inquisitor_Lensoven said: So he’s a warp touched witch who needs to be burned at the stake, got it. ALL Primarchs are warp touched beings by nature. Let me remind people that Guilliman feels a tug at what he refused to call his soul everytime he teleports through the warp, Corax has accepted his nature as something partly of the warp and became a shadowy bird daemon, Ferrus was a flaming being in the warp that protected Terra during the Heresy, Sanguinis infected his sons with the Black Rage when he died, and there will undoubtedly be more. Being able to use their innate warp related nature is not like being a witch though. We know this because of how Primarchs like Magnus work and how their powers are used in game. HolyPestilience, Arkangilos, crimsondave and 3 others 6 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
phandaal Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 This new Forest Walk thing is definitely out of left field, but like other people have said, even the non-psychic Primarchs have a connection to the Warp. The Lion has been described as being able to feel and overcome the energies used by an incredibly powerful Khrave psyker before the Horus Heresy, so there is some precedent at least. BitsHammer and bigtrouble 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939567 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 2 minutes ago, phandaal said: This new Forest Walk thing is definitely out of left field, but like other people have said, even the non-psychic Primarchs have a connection to the Warp. The Lion has been described as being able to feel and overcome the energies used by an incredibly powerful Khrave psyker before the Horus Heresy, so there is some precedent at least. It also may be tied to the Watchers somehow and wouldn't shock me if we learned that they helped him awaken the ability as he slept. ZeroWolf, jaxom and phandaal 2 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939569 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cactus Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I haven't read the novel but my assumption since the rule was revealed has been that the Watchers are doing it. phandaal 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
davextreme Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 5 hours ago, Cyrox said: Does the Son of the Forest book take place before the Arks of Omens Lion book? Yes. AoO:TL picks up after the events of TL:SofF with no real overlap. 5 hours ago, Cyrox said: Also, does either of the two books go into any detail on how he woke up, and the chamber he was sleeping in inside the Rock? No. MithrilForge and Cyrox 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sea Creature Posted April 25, 2023 Share Posted April 25, 2023 I for one like the mystery surrounding his return. jaxom 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939625 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrevorLoLz Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 6 hours ago, BitsHammer said: ALL Primarchs are warp touched beings by nature. Let me remind people that Guilliman feels a tug at what he refused to call his soul everytime he teleports through the warp, Corax has accepted his nature as something partly of the warp and became a shadowy bird daemon, Ferrus was a flaming being in the warp that protected Terra during the Heresy, Sanguinis infected his sons with the Black Rage when he died, and there will undoubtedly be more. Being able to use their innate warp related nature is not like being a witch though. We know this because of how Primarchs like Magnus work and how their powers are used in game. Where did you find this bit about a flaming Ghost Rider esque Ferrus Manus? Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inquisitor_Lensoven Posted April 26, 2023 Author Share Posted April 26, 2023 7 hours ago, BitsHammer said: ALL Primarchs are warp touched beings by nature. Let me remind people that Guilliman feels a tug at what he refused to call his soul everytime he teleports through the warp, Corax has accepted his nature as something partly of the warp and became a shadowy bird daemon, Ferrus was a flaming being in the warp that protected Terra during the Heresy, Sanguinis infected his sons with the Black Rage when he died, and there will undoubtedly be more. Being able to use their innate warp related nature is not like being a witch though. We know this because of how Primarchs like Magnus work and how their powers are used in game. Heresy. sanguinius is pure and his trauma is passed through physical genetics. to the dungeon with you! DemonGSides and MithrilForge 2 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spessmarine Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 (edited) Guilliman gets to be vanillaman Lion forestman Corax shadowman Russ frostman Khan lightningman Manus headlesshorseman Getting the themes hashed out, do not steal from me GW Edited April 26, 2023 by spessmarine Grotsmasha, HolyPestilience, DemonGSides and 4 others 2 5 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitsHammer Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 1 hour ago, TrevorLoLz said: Where did you find this bit about a flaming Ghost Rider esque Ferrus Manus? Master of Mankind - Chapter 23 Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939673 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhg033 Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 14 hours ago, Doghouse said: You can track him by following the smell of pine, tread carefully brave Inquisitor for he has mastered the dark arts of Potpourii. That explains all the censers on the DA kits!... It's to throw off where he might be coming from! Seriously, I don't think I'm going to see one on a DA model now without having a small smile at the idea of 'the master of potpourri'. I may deliberately add more to my models in fact Interrogator Stobz and Doghouse 1 1 Back to top Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kastor Krieg Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 With all the talk of Forestwalking, I was amused while reading The End and the Death (not a spoiler, well known facts and a minor detail) Spoiler when during the teleportation of Emps and his retinue to the Vengeful Spirit there was a description of "a forest mist rising" Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939739 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karhedron Posted April 26, 2023 Share Posted April 26, 2023 8 hours ago, BitsHammer said: Master of Mankind - Chapter 23 The Emperor joins the Custodians fighting in the Webway and unleashes a massive psychic inferno against the Daemons which take the form of fallen warriors. It sound rather like a proto-Legion of the Damned. Quote Shapes raged in the flames – shadows and suggestions doing battle with the daemons, their fiery forms indistinct and ever-changing. The fire-born avatars of fallen Ten Thousand, knee-deep in psychic fire and thrusting with lances of flame. The silhouettes of Space Marines, the betrayed dead of Isstvan bearing axes and blades and claws; half-seen sigils of slaughtered Legions obscured by the ash of their blackened armour. A giant among giants, its great hands bared and ready as it seared forwards at the crest of the tidal fire. The tenth son of a dying empire, so briefly reborn in his father’s immolating wrath. Link to comment https://bolterandchainsword.com/topic/378449-johnson-and-his-forest-walk/#findComment-5939746 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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